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Two weeks in Japan
Hi all,
I've just been told that I'm about to leave to Japan! I've got a business meeting to go to in Kyoto, and since I've never visited Japan before I decided to take quite a few additional days off for a total of about a fortnight. Due to the short notice I haven't had time yet to buy guidebooks and stuff, which I'm doing ASAP. In the meantime I'd appreciate any and all advice as to places to visit. Some general hints: - Trip will take place approx during the first two weeks of September - I'm flying into/from Tokyo-Narita - I'm not on an overly tight budget but I don't want to spoil myself either - My only compulsory destination is Kyoto where I have to spend a few (2 to 4) days anyway - Given the limited timeframe my preference lies with culture rather than nature. This is a sad choice as I'd love to do both but I definitely don't think I can embark on a mountain hike (which I'd love to do BTW) in such a short time - I definitely don't want a car, also given the world-famous Japanese rail services - I adore Japanese cuisine (particularly sushi), so any food-related advice is specially welcome - Someone told me about "ryokans" (sp?) and if I understand correctly what they are all about, I'd love to stay there. Any suggestions? I think that's all for the moment. Thanks very much in advance, andy |
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Hi andy,
I'm adding fj.life.in-japan, where there are many English-speakers living in Japan, in the Newsgroups: listing. - I'm flying into/from Tokyo-Narita .... - My only compulsory destination is Kyoto where I have to spend a few (2 to 4) days anyway .... - I definitely don't want a car, also given the world-famous Japanese rail services Be sure to order a Japan Rail Pass, if you satisfy the requirement for it. http://www.japanrailpass.net. - Someone told me about "ryokans" (sp?) and if I understand correctly what they are all about, I'd love to stay there. Any suggestions? Ryokan is Japanese-styled inns, with tatami, yukata, and Japanese foods. You can, of course, order sushi at ryokan. Since most ryokans in Kyoto are designed for sightseers, not for business- men, you may suffer some handicaps like: - they can be a little more expensive than cheap hotels - you may be away from internet access, though there are many internet cafes in Kyoto - they may not have English-speaking clerks, though it is rare in international tourist sites like Kyoto. Be sure to arrange carefully with your travel agent about where to stay. ================================================== ====================== (Mr.) IIJIMA Hiromitsu, aka Delmonta http://www.ht.sakura.ne.jp/~delmonta/ Hi all, I've just been told that I'm about to leave to Japan! I've got a business meeting to go to in Kyoto, and since I've never visited Japan before I decided to take quite a few additional days off for a total of about a fortnight. Due to the short notice I haven't had time yet to buy guidebooks and stuff, which I'm doing ASAP. In the meantime I'd appreciate any and all advice as to places to visit. Some general hints: - Trip will take place approx during the first two weeks of September - I'm flying into/from Tokyo-Narita - I'm not on an overly tight budget but I don't want to spoil myself either - My only compulsory destination is Kyoto where I have to spend a few (2 to 4) days anyway - Given the limited timeframe my preference lies with culture rather than nature. This is a sad choice as I'd love to do both but I definitely don't think I can embark on a mountain hike (which I'd love to do BTW) in such a short time - I definitely don't want a car, also given the world-famous Japanese rail services - I adore Japanese cuisine (particularly sushi), so any food-related advice is specially welcome - Someone told me about "ryokans" (sp?) and if I understand correctly what they are all about, I'd love to stay there. Any suggestions? I think that's all for the moment. Thanks very much in advance, andy |
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IIJIMA Hiromitsu wrote in message ...
Hi andy, I'm adding fj.life.in-japan, where there are many English-speakers living in Japan, in the Newsgroups: listing. - I'm flying into/from Tokyo-Narita ... - My only compulsory destination is Kyoto where I have to spend a few (2 to 4) days anyway ... - I definitely don't want a car, also given the world-famous Japanese rail services Be sure to order a Japan Rail Pass, if you satisfy the requirement for it. http://www.japanrailpass.net. probably not a money saver if he's only going to ride the train from narita - tokyo - kyoto - Someone told me about "ryokans" (sp?) and if I understand correctly what they are all about, I'd love to stay there. Any suggestions? Ryokan is Japanese-styled inns, with tatami, yukata, and Japanese foods. You can, of course, order sushi at ryokan. I recommend staying as long as you an in a Ryokan. They're the epitome of Japanase style. |
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IIJIMA Hiromitsu wrote in message ...
Hi andy, I'm adding fj.life.in-japan, where there are many English-speakers living in Japan, in the Newsgroups: listing. - I'm flying into/from Tokyo-Narita ... - My only compulsory destination is Kyoto where I have to spend a few (2 to 4) days anyway ... - I definitely don't want a car, also given the world-famous Japanese rail services Be sure to order a Japan Rail Pass, if you satisfy the requirement for it. http://www.japanrailpass.net. probably not a money saver if he's only going to ride the train from narita - tokyo - kyoto - Someone told me about "ryokans" (sp?) and if I understand correctly what they are all about, I'd love to stay there. Any suggestions? Ryokan is Japanese-styled inns, with tatami, yukata, and Japanese foods. You can, of course, order sushi at ryokan. I recommend staying as long as you an in a Ryokan. They're the epitome of Japanase style. |
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wrote: Due to the short notice I haven't had time yet to buy guidebooks and stuff, which I'm doing ASAP. In the meantime I'd appreciate any and all advice as to places to visit. Some general hints: Most of the stuff below isn't requests for advice or information. Get Frommer's Japan book. Read it and consider their "if you only have (1/2/4) days agendas). If you have specific questions after a fast read, pose them here. Generic: Japan rail pass is great and can get you where you want to go for no additional fees. But bear in mind that checking out of a hotel, going to the train station, waiting for the train, taking the train, going to a hotel/ryokan, checking in and leaving to see the sights--that can take 3-5 hours. I assume a day can be broken into 3 such units. And consider a day in which I am *already* in a town to have 3 such units for sightseeing hiking, short-distance day trips and so forth. If you have a few weeks you should be able to cover a number of areas such as Kyushu, Kansai, the "Japanese Alps" as so forth. But discount the coming and going from your overall time. Get a phrase book and rapidly learn the restaurant navigation parts. It won't take long and provides immeasurable diplomatic value. When selecting restaurants as you amble, be brave! Many will have a little English in a posted menu, or the plastic food. If you're famished, go for it. But if you can see that the next joing has neither English nor plastic, take a chance! I've rarely had problems that way, but I can muster the necessary food-ordering business. Sushi can be expensive some places, but there are lots of other wonderful foods to be found there. Most larger towns have tourism services in the train stations. They can help you find a ryokan at a price and locality that suits your needs. It can be scary for the uninitiated to go to a town without a reservation, but I've never had a problem. And so forth. - Trip will take place approx during the first two weeks of September - I'm flying into/from Tokyo-Narita - I'm not on an overly tight budget but I don't want to spoil myself either - My only compulsory destination is Kyoto where I have to spend a few (2 to 4) days anyway - Given the limited timeframe my preference lies with culture rather than nature. This is a sad choice as I'd love to do both but I definitely don't think I can embark on a mountain hike (which I'd love to do BTW) in such a short time - I definitely don't want a car, also given the world-famous Japanese rail services - I adore Japanese cuisine (particularly sushi), so any food-related advice is specially welcome - Someone told me about "ryokans" (sp?) and if I understand correctly what they are all about, I'd love to stay there. Any suggestions? I think that's all for the moment. Thanks very much in advance, andy -- Invest wisely: Over the past 75 years, stocks have averaged annual gains of 2.3 percent under GOP administrations, compared with 9.5 under Democratic ones. -- Jerry Heaster |
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(John W.) wrote in message . com...
(abcd) wrote in message om... Hi all, - I'm flying into/from Tokyo-Narita Out of curiosity, if your meeting is in Kyoto, why are you flying into Tokyo, three hours away? Not necessarily a bad idea. Probably cheaper for one, and if you bookcase the week in Kyoto with 3 days before and after in Tokyo it should work well. |
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(John W.) wrote in message . com...
(abcd) wrote in message om... Hi all, - I'm flying into/from Tokyo-Narita Out of curiosity, if your meeting is in Kyoto, why are you flying into Tokyo, three hours away? Not necessarily a bad idea. Probably cheaper for one, and if you bookcase the week in Kyoto with 3 days before and after in Tokyo it should work well. |
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"abcd" wrote in message m... Hi all, I've just been told that I'm about to leave to Japan! I've got a business meeting to go to in Kyoto, and since I've never visited Japan before I decided to take quite a few additional days off for a total of about a fortnight. Due to the short notice I haven't had time yet to buy guidebooks and stuff, which I'm doing ASAP. In the meantime I'd appreciate any and all advice as to places to visit. Some general hints: First, congrats! I'm sure you're going to enjoy this trip. A couple of general comments, though, right up front: - Trip will take place approx during the first two weeks of September - I'm flying into/from Tokyo-Narita As was already asked, why Tokyo? Kansai International, the new Osaka-area airport, would be much more convenient for this, and would be my personal preference just in terms of the airport facilities as well. Narita isn't even convenient to Tokyo itself (it's a fairly long train or bus ride into the city, and it's definitely on the wrong side of Tokyo if Kyoto is your final destination.) To get to Kyoto from Tokyo, you would first have to take the Narita Express train to Tokyo station, then change to the shinkansen (bullet train). Not convenient, especially if you were to happen to hit Tokyo station at rush hour. Kansai, on the other hand, has incredibly convenient trains directly to Kyoto. - I'm not on an overly tight budget but I don't want to spoil myself either - My only compulsory destination is Kyoto where I have to spend a few (2 to 4) days anyway First, re the business end of your trip, do you know where in Kyoto you will need to be? My personal preference for "business" accomodations there is the Hotel Granvia, which is literally within the main Kyoto railroad station complex, and so both incredibly easy to find once you get there and conveniently located for access to the rest of the city and region. (The Kyoto subway line passes under Kyoto station, and you can also easily get onto the bus system or travel by taxi from there. There are also lots of choices for dining in and around the station complex.) - Given the limited timeframe my preference lies with culture rather than nature. This is a sad choice as I'd love to do both but I definitely don't think I can embark on a mountain hike (which I'd love to do BTW) in such a short time Fortunately, in Kyoto, you don't really need to chose between the two. It is a major cultural center but also located in a valley and surrounded by hills and small mountains. You can easily get to trails, etc., in the surrounding countryside. Also, a number of the standard "walking tours" of Kyoto will take you along very nice tree-lined paths, particularly as you tour the temples and shrines on the city's east and north sides. I would strongly recommend taking the time to pick up a guide book, or you're going to miss SOMETHING for sure. Lonely Planet has an excellent book on Kyoto itself, in addition to their book on Japan. There is also an excellent tourist information center, with a very helpful English-speaking staff, just a couple of blocks north of Kyoto Station on Karasuma-dori, one of the main north-south streets (and the one the north-south subway line runs under). You can pick up a lot of information there, including a very good city map; it's run by JNTO, the Japan National Tourist Organization. Also, be SURE to visit the JNTO web site, at http://www.jnto.go.jp/ before you leave. Having said that, the usual list of "must sees" for the tourist in Kyoto would have to include: - Nijo Castle - The Gion district (with too many individual sights to mention) - Keiomizu-dera (temple) - Kinkakuji Temple (the "Golden Pavilion") - All of the temples, shrines, etc. (and esp. Ginkakuji) along the "Philosopher's Walk" (Tetsu-gaku no michi) on the eastern side of the city. - The Nishikikoji-dori food market, and the covered shopping area in this vicinity - The Kyoto Imperial Palace grounds There is also a popular destination for the tour-bus operators called the "Kyoto Handicraft Center", which is a five-or-six story building which basically houses a mini-shopping mall; each floor is operated by one or two dealers selling various Japanese crafts, etc.. The items range from the purest of touristy junk to some fairly nice pieces; prices are often high compared to what you could find elsewhere, but it has the advantage of convenience and, again, a staff with good English-language skills. If you go there, you'll very quickly see what I mean, and can then decide for yourself if you want to stick around or ever return. I have to admit that I've shopped there several time, always due to the convenience factor (i.e., I'm only in town for a short time, and have to pick up several items quickly as souvenirs for family and friends). - I definitely don't want a car, also given the world-famous Japanese rail services Right! By the way, another helpful web site which can assist you with planning train travel across Japan is: http://www.hyperdia.com/cgi-english/ And then there's the Japan Railways site: http://www.japanrail.com/ As you said, the rail services are world-famous. The train WILL be on time (or else the president of Japan Rail is likely to resign the next morning! :-)), it will be clean, etc.. However, except for the long-distance lines such as the shinkansen, don't expect much in the way of a place for your luggage. There may be a tiny overhead shelf for carry-on sorts of bags, and that may be it. Also, when traveling by rail, don't pass up the opportunity to enjoy an "eki-ben", the prepackaged box lunches that are almost always available at the train stations. Those from the larger stations can seem pretty much the same everywhere, but you will still see some local specialities esp. in the smaller places. It won't be the best food you have in Japan, but this is more a "do it for the experience" sort of thing. - I adore Japanese cuisine (particularly sushi), so any food-related advice is specially welcome You practically can't go wrong in Kyoto. You will be able to find pretty much anything in the way of Japanese cuisine, and even a fair number of restaurants offering various Western cuisines if you get tired of Japanese food (not too likely, but you never know!). There's a high concentration of restaurants along Kawaramachi-dori, a north-south street along the eastern edge of the downtown area, or rather between that street and the Kamo river. Another good bet for both dining and culture is in the Gion district (which is the old geisha and entertainment district of Kyoto, and which still has several active geisha houses), directly across the river on Shijo-dori. If, for some reason, you just don't feel like going out some evening, there are a number of eating establishments in the shopping mall underneath Kyoto station - not the best places in town, but they're certainly convenient. Another general word of advice re dining in Japan - there will very often be a floor or two of restaurants at the top of major department store buildings, plus a "food court" (think of something like a cross between a supermarket and a large number of individual shops, something like delis or bakeries, etc.) in the basement levels. This can also be a convenient way to find a place to eat - again, not always the best in town, but these places near the major shopping areas and stores may often be more used to dealing with foreigners who don't speak Japanese. You also will come to appreciate the fact that many restaurants in Japan display almost their full menus in the form of plastic food displays in a case out front - if need be, you can always take your waitperson there and simply point to what you want! - Someone told me about "ryokans" (sp?) and if I understand correctly what they are all about, I'd love to stay there. Any suggestions? Well, if you understand that these are Japanese-style inns, then you know basically what they're all about. Some are more suited than others to the foreign visitor; the others may in some cases not be very accomodating to Westerners at all, at least if you don't speak the language. JNTO (see above) can be a very helpful resource here. With two weeks in Japan, you will likely want to get out of Kyoto proper at least for a few days. Osaka has some interesting sights of its own, but it IS really just a big industrial city. In terms of tourist attractions, I would probably suggest Tokyo instead, and that would give you a reason to enjoy the shinkansen, see Mt. Fuji on the way (and possibly stop and visit some places in the Fuji area, or Kamakura). One CAN easily spend two weeks in and around Kyoto, but especially if you're not expecting to get back to Japan in the near future, I would suggest at least a couple of days to see what Tokyo has to offer. Bob M. |
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I've just been told that I'm about to leave to Japan! I've got a
business meeting to go to in Kyoto, and since I've never visited Japan before I decided to take quite a few additional days off for a total of about a fortnight. Due to the short notice I haven't had time yet to buy guidebooks and stuff, which I'm doing ASAP. In the meantime I'd appreciate any and all advice as to places to visit. Some general hints: - Trip will take place approx during the first two weeks of September - I'm flying into/from Tokyo-Narita Narita airport is about ninety minutes to two hours from the main parts of Tokyo, so make sure you leave for the airport well in advance and don't schedule any tight connections. - I'm not on an overly tight budget but I don't want to spoil myself either Avoid taxis, make sure you know the price of a restaurant before you go inside, and make sure you arrange cheap accomodation in advance. Bars and clubs are very expensive in Tokyo - US $7-9 per drink is standard even in crappy-looking bars, and club covers of US $25-30 are not uncommon. - My only compulsory destination is Kyoto where I have to spend a few (2 to 4) days anyway Spend five days in Tokyo, two in Kanazawa, and the rest in Kyoto (including your business meeting and day trips to Nara and Himeji). - Given the limited timeframe my preference lies with culture rather than nature. This is a sad choice as I'd love to do both but I definitely don't think I can embark on a mountain hike (which I'd love to do BTW) in such a short time - I definitely don't want a car, also given the world-famous Japanese rail services Definitely don't rent a car - they're very expensive, parking and traffic are a nightmare, and gasoline and tolls are also very expensive. You might consider a Japan rail pass. - I adore Japanese cuisine (particularly sushi), so any food-related advice is specially welcome Restaurants in Japan tend to specialize in one specific type of food rather than having several types of Japanese food like Japanese restaurants in the US. Besides sushi, some other types you might want to try a -tempura (seafood and vegetables dipped in a light, flaky batter) -sukiyaki (thin strips of beef, sometimes Kobe beef, dipped in a sweet sauce) -yakitori (Japanese grilled chicken) -kaiseki (Japanese traditional cuisine consisting of 10+ tiny courses, mostly vegetarian) Kyoto, Kanazawa, and Nagasaki are each known for their distinctive regional versions of kaiseki. Nagasaki had a long history of trading with the Portuguese, Dutch, and Chinese, and its cuisine absorbed many influences from those cultures. - Someone told me about "ryokans" (sp?) and if I understand correctly what they are all about, I'd love to stay there. Any suggestions? Japanese traditional inns. |
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