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Old December 14th, 2006, 02:59 PM posted to alt.abortion,alt.atheism,rec.travel.air,soc.culture.jewish
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On 14-Dec-2006, Mike Hunt postmaster@localhost wrote:

Laura Sanchez wrote:

Too bad Christianity doesn't return the favor.




Excuse me? It's Christians that are the only ones defending Israel and
denouncing anti-Semitism.


Yet, they can't seem to share the winter holiday season by permitting a
one Jewish symbol at the airport.


I think she is exaggeratedly discussing a different type of Xian.

Susan
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On 14-Dec-2006, "Sancho Panza" wrote:

Hanukah is not a religious holiday. It is not mentioned in sacred texts.


Oh, okay - I see what you mean when you say it's not religious.

Susan
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Old December 14th, 2006, 03:00 PM posted to alt.abortion,alt.anarchism,alt.atheism,rec.travel.air,soc.culture.jewish
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On 14-Dec-2006, James A. Donald wrote:

James A. Donald:
It is like negotiating with the Palestinians.


Mxsmanic
Maybe. It can't be like the Israelis, since they
refuse to negotiate.


They negotiated at Camp David, and look at the results.


The lying bigot is also ignoring Wye and Oslo.
Not that I'm suprised.

Susan
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Old December 14th, 2006, 03:02 PM posted to alt.anarchism,alt.atheism,rec.travel.air,soc.culture.jewish
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On 14-Dec-2006, "Anarcissie" wrote:

Sancho Panza wrote:
"James A. Donald" wrote in message
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"brique"
Nobody was 'sueing against the display of trees'. a
rabbi threatened to sue if the airport did not also
display symbols of his religion alongside the trees.

But they were displaying trees, and not a manger,
because the manger is a symbol of the Christian
religion, and the trees are not.


If the trees are not a religious symbol, why is there so much fervor to
display them?


Yes, that's the question. Why is it so important?


And why are they only brought out to celebrate Jesus' birth?

Susan
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Old December 14th, 2006, 04:15 PM posted to alt.abortion,alt.anarchism,alt.atheism,rec.travel.air,soc.culture.jewish
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In article "brique" writes:

Cary Kittrell wrote in message
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In article James A. Donald

writes:
Mike Hunt
The issue isn't that the Rabbi wanted the
Christmas ornaments removed, but he wanted
representation of his religion a this public
facility.

James A. Donald:
Christmas is a universal celebration,


No, it is not. The fact that some people have
secularized it changes nothing.

So you are worried that people might look at the
Christmas tree and THINK of a manger?

Sure sounds like war on Christmas.


Sounds like a bar fight against Christmas -- an
isolated incident. A war would be large
numbers of complaints or lawsuits against
displays which contain no specifically
Christian symbolism. Yet this is the only
story of this nature I am aware of which
did not involve things such a manger, wise
men, or other related icons.


The joke is that the decorated tree is a pagan symbol, adopted by germans
christians, imported into England and popularised by the Victorians and
thence spread world-wide.

It has no relationship to the christian nativity tale at all.


Yeppers, not an authentic Christian symbol, like, say....um, bunnies
and eggs at Easter?


-- cary
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Old December 14th, 2006, 05:22 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.abortion,rec.travel.air,soc.culture.jewish
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 22:02:49 -0800, Laura Sanchez wrote:

Too bad Christianity doesn't return the favor.



Excuse me? It's Christians that are the only ones defending Israel and
denouncing anti-Semitism.


By refusing to add a menorah to the airport display?

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Old December 14th, 2006, 05:38 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.abortion,rec.travel.air,soc.culture.jewish
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 22:02:49 -0800, Laura Sanchez wrote:

Too bad Christianity doesn't return the favor.



Excuse me? It's Christians that are the only ones defending Israel and
denouncing anti-Semitism.


By refusing to add a menorah to the airport display?


It's not just some kind of festive decoration.
The menorah is the NATIONAL EMBLEM OF THE "STATE" OF ISRAEL Like the
eagle is to the US!:

http://www.science.co.il/Israel-Emblem.asp

I would find it highly offensive to have an 8 foot foreign state
emblem displayed by legal imposition in my country. But hey, maybe
yanks should know who their real masters are.



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Old December 14th, 2006, 05:42 PM posted to alt.anarchism,alt.atheism,rec.travel.air,soc.culture.jewish
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Sancho Panza wrote:
"James A. Donald" wrote in message
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"James A. Donald"
But you guys are trying to suppress even the secular
aspects of Christmas - you were suing against the
display of Christmas trees, not the display of
stables and mangers. You are suing against the
stuff that people see in Singapore


"Sancho Panza"
Pretty fast on the trigger with "you guys." Just what
guys do you mean?


By "you guys" I mean everyone that gets so enraged by
the symbols of Christianity that they cannot even stand
symbols that are associated with the symbols of
Christianity - I mean commies, militant Jews, radical
islamists, Gaia worshippers, the usual. Hindus,
animists and ancestor worshippers somehow never have
this problem.


But you are saying in posts right around this one that it is not a religious
symbol. Which is it, religious or not? If it's a symbol of Christianity, as
you say here, why should other faiths not be similarly represented?


What it actually is is the national icon for the "state" of Israel:
http://www.science.co.il/Israel-Emblem.asp

So, It's a political symbol for start.

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Old December 14th, 2006, 05:47 PM posted to alt.anarchism,alt.atheism,rec.travel.air,soc.culture.jewish
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Anarcissie wrote:
Sancho Panza wrote:
"James A. Donald" wrote in message
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"brique"
Nobody was 'sueing against the display of trees'. a
rabbi threatened to sue if the airport did not also
display symbols of his religion alongside the trees.

But they were displaying trees, and not a manger,
because the manger is a symbol of the Christian
religion, and the trees are not.


If the trees are not a religious symbol, why is there so much fervor to
display them?


Yes, that's the question. Why is it so important?


It's a tradition for most people. What makes you think everything has
to have religious connotations?
The menorah is a political symbol too, like the swastika:
http://www.science.co.il/Israel-Emblem.asp

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Old December 14th, 2006, 05:57 PM posted to alt.atheism,alt.abortion,alt.anarchism,rec.travel.air,soc.culture.jewish
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"Laura Sanchez" wrote in message
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God bless the Jewish people. They are always the friends of Christians.


Too bad it hasn't always been the other way around.
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Robyn
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Einstein without any effort. - Denis Loubet


 




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