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  #21  
Old August 26th, 2008, 04:52 PM posted to rec.arts.dance,rec.travel.usa-canada,rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.asia,rec.travel.caribbean
PeterL
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On Aug 26, 3:19*am, Icono Clast wrote:
[Please note cross-posts.]


I was watching all those incredibly disciplined dancers and
drummers in both ceremonies and wondering what will happen
ater to the very few unfortunates who stood out for missing
a step or a cue.



That just show how ignorant people are about China. They have come a
long long way in just 20 or 30 years.


The same thought gnawed at me.

I felt the best real performers, apart from the athletes,
were taken away in Police vans after being arrested in "Free
Tibet" protests.


Now that journalists have gotten out of the country, we should start
seeing reports about what really went down.


China does not have the freedom of expression enjoyed in our country.
It's totally unfair to use western standards to judge how China reacts
to protestors.

Pat in TX said:

gymnasts' ages are important … the power to weight
ratio and the skeletal structure, etc.


The average weight of the female USA gymnasts was something like 106
pounds; the Chinese team was about thirty pounds lighter! Yeah, sure,
they were all of qualifying age.


Again you are judging the Chinese using American standards. I don't
know if they are old enough or not, but you can't judge age simply by
how they look and how much they weigh. They don't have the same
nutrition as an American. Maybe if the Americans don't go to
McDonalds so much they'd weigh less.
  #22  
Old August 26th, 2008, 06:25 PM posted to rec.arts.dance,rec.travel.usa-canada,rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.asia,rec.travel.caribbean
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"PeterL" wrote in message
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China does not have the freedom of expression enjoyed in our country.
It's totally unfair to use western standards to judge how China reacts
to protestors.

-----------------

Why?

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.



  #23  
Old August 26th, 2008, 07:33 PM posted to rec.arts.dance,rec.travel.usa-canada,rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.asia,rec.travel.caribbean
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On Aug 26, 10:25*am, "William Black"
wrote:
"PeterL" wrote in message

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China does not have the freedom of expression enjoyed in our country.
It's totally unfair to use western standards to judge how China reacts
to protestors.

-----------------

Why?


Why what?


--
William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, *like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.


  #24  
Old August 26th, 2008, 07:43 PM posted to rec.arts.dance,rec.travel.usa-canada,rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.asia,rec.travel.caribbean
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Again you are judging the Chinese using American standards. I don't
know if they are old enough or not, but you can't judge age simply by
how they look and how much they weigh. They don't have the same
nutrition as an American.


Maybe if the Americans didn't go to McDonalds so much they'd weigh less.

That's a definite!

Gerry


  #25  
Old August 26th, 2008, 07:49 PM posted to rec.arts.dance,rec.travel.usa-canada,rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.asia,rec.travel.caribbean
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"PeterL" wrote in message
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On Aug 26, 10:25 am, "William Black"
wrote:
"PeterL" wrote in message

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China does not have the freedom of expression enjoyed in our country.
It's totally unfair to use western standards to judge how China reacts
to protestors.

-----------------

Why?


Why what?



Taiwan is an excellent example of what China could aspire to be if people
stopped pandering to its awful government.

Cheers,
George W Russell
Bangalore


  #26  
Old August 26th, 2008, 09:02 PM posted to rec.arts.dance,rec.travel.usa-canada,rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.asia,rec.travel.caribbean
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On Aug 26, 11:49*am, "grusl" wrote:
"PeterL" wrote in message

...
On Aug 26, 10:25 am, "William Black"
wrote:

"PeterL" wrote in message


...


China does not have the freedom of expression enjoyed in our country.
It's totally unfair to use western standards to judge how China reacts
to protestors.


-----------------


Why?


Why what?


Taiwan is an excellent example of what China could aspire to be if people
stopped pandering to its awful government.

Cheers,
George W Russell
Bangalore



Oh brother, you know nothing about Taiwan politics do you?
  #27  
Old August 26th, 2008, 09:38 PM posted to rec.arts.dance,rec.travel.usa-canada,rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.asia,rec.travel.caribbean
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"PeterL" wrote in message
...
On Aug 26, 10:25 am, "William Black"
wrote:
"PeterL" wrote in message

...

China does not have the freedom of expression enjoyed in our country.
It's totally unfair to use western standards to judge how China reacts
to protestors.

-----------------

Why?


Why what?

------------------

Why is it unfair to judge China by Western standards?

China always judges everyone else by their standards.

(And why do China partisans always have a really bad understanding of the
use of English...)


--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.



  #28  
Old August 26th, 2008, 11:38 PM posted to rec.arts.dance,rec.travel.usa-canada,rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.asia,rec.travel.caribbean
PeterL
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On Aug 26, 1:38*pm, "William Black"
wrote:
"PeterL" wrote in message

...
On Aug 26, 10:25 am, "William Black"
wrote:

"PeterL" wrote in message


...


China does not have the freedom of expression enjoyed in our country.
It's totally unfair to use western standards to judge how China reacts
to protestors.


-----------------


Why?


Why what?

------------------

Why is it unfair to judge China by Western standards?


Because China is not the West.


China always judges everyone else by their standards.


So it's unfair for them to do it too.


(And why do China partisans always have a really bad understanding of the
use of English...)


What's a partisan? And why would you expect Chinese to have a good
command of English? How's your Chinese? Why do western partisans
(whatever that is) always have no understanding of the use of Chinese?


--
William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, *like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.


  #29  
Old August 27th, 2008, 12:44 AM posted to rec.arts.dance,rec.travel.usa-canada,rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.asia,rec.travel.caribbean
William Black
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"PeterL" wrote in message
...
On Aug 26, 1:38 pm, "William Black"
wrote:
"PeterL" wrote in message

...
On Aug 26, 10:25 am, "William Black"
wrote:

"PeterL" wrote in message


...


China does not have the freedom of expression enjoyed in our country.
It's totally unfair to use western standards to judge how China reacts
to protestors.


-----------------


Why?


Why what?

------------------

Why is it unfair to judge China by Western standards?


Because China is not the West.


China always judges everyone else by their standards.


So it's unfair for them to do it too.


(And why do China partisans always have a really bad understanding of the
use of English...)


What's a partisan?

-------------------

See what I mean.

A world full of on-line dictionaries and too arrogant to use one.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.



  #30  
Old August 27th, 2008, 03:58 AM posted to rec.arts.dance,rec.travel.usa-canada,rec.travel.europe,rec.travel.asia,rec.travel.caribbean
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"PeterL" wrote in message
...
On Aug 26, 11:49 am, "grusl" wrote:
"PeterL" wrote in message

...
On Aug 26, 10:25 am, "William Black"
wrote:

"PeterL" wrote in message


...


China does not have the freedom of expression enjoyed in our country.
It's totally unfair to use western standards to judge how China reacts
to protestors.


-----------------


Why?


Why what?


Taiwan is an excellent example of what China could aspire to be if people
stopped pandering to its awful government.

Cheers,
George W Russell
Bangalore



Oh brother, you know nothing about Taiwan politics do you?

At least I'm not an apologist for a dictatorship. Stop judging Europe by
Chinese standards.

Cheers,
George W Russell
Bangalore


 




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