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  #41  
Old April 6th, 2005, 11:35 AM
Manfred Aigner
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ludfer wrote:

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Indonesia and Malaysia are obvious targets.


i recommend to stay in the house of an indonesian friend of mine ...

http://www.lombok-ecoturist.org

he lives in mataram, lombok - he can and will organize rinjan treks,
diving, etc. and will probably join you in case that he has time ...
staying there has the big advantage that you can get an insight into
real life of an indonesian family, while having good time with really
funny peple (ohiem and his friends ...)

expenses: there is no fixed rate for accomondation: guests pay what they
think ...

Manfred

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Old April 6th, 2005, 11:35 AM
Manfred Aigner
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ludfer wrote:

[..]
Indonesia and Malaysia are obvious targets.


i recommend to stay in the house of an indonesian friend of mine ...

http://www.lombok-ecoturist.org

he lives in mataram, lombok - he can and will organize rinjan treks,
diving, etc. and will probably join you in case that he has time ...
staying there has the big advantage that you can get an insight into
real life of an indonesian family, while having good time with really
funny peple (ohiem and his friends ...)

expenses: there is no fixed rate for accomondation: guests pay what they
think ...

Manfred

  #43  
Old April 6th, 2005, 12:15 PM
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I'm in Sydney and I have some colleagues who explore a different continent
every year and they can't wait to get back to South America, in particular
Chile and Peru. If you want somewhere in Asia, how about China? It's close
(by Australian standards!) and there's lots to see.

"ludfer" wrote in message ...
I'm Australian. I generally travel alone.

I like mid-level comfort: 3 stars, taxis, some Western food, some local.
Touristy stuff and some relaxation around the pool. $AUD120 ($US95) per
day after airfares and transfers is the normal budget.

I have enjoyed travelling in Thailand, India, Vietnam and The Philippines
because they are exotic and alive and fascinating and, most importantly,
cheap enough to allow me to experience, for weeks at a time, a couple of
times a year, a level of comfort I could not afford in Europe or North
America, or even here in Australia. Cambodia is coming up soon, but I am
already thinking about the trip after that .

Indonesia and Malaysia are obvious targets. A return to the Philippines
looks good. I'd go back to Thailand any time, but that's getting a bit
predictable.

Laos? Sri Lanka? Burma?

My dentist suggested Cuba (yes, I know that's not in Asia, but I'm
throwing this open).














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  #44  
Old April 6th, 2005, 12:15 PM
Viviane
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I'm in Sydney and I have some colleagues who explore a different continent
every year and they can't wait to get back to South America, in particular
Chile and Peru. If you want somewhere in Asia, how about China? It's close
(by Australian standards!) and there's lots to see.

"ludfer" wrote in message ...
I'm Australian. I generally travel alone.

I like mid-level comfort: 3 stars, taxis, some Western food, some local.
Touristy stuff and some relaxation around the pool. $AUD120 ($US95) per
day after airfares and transfers is the normal budget.

I have enjoyed travelling in Thailand, India, Vietnam and The Philippines
because they are exotic and alive and fascinating and, most importantly,
cheap enough to allow me to experience, for weeks at a time, a couple of
times a year, a level of comfort I could not afford in Europe or North
America, or even here in Australia. Cambodia is coming up soon, but I am
already thinking about the trip after that .

Indonesia and Malaysia are obvious targets. A return to the Philippines
looks good. I'd go back to Thailand any time, but that's getting a bit
predictable.

Laos? Sri Lanka? Burma?

My dentist suggested Cuba (yes, I know that's not in Asia, but I'm
throwing this open).














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  #45  
Old April 6th, 2005, 01:35 PM
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wrote:
"Nepal. Stay away from the self-proclaimed "travellers" (translation:
stoned out of their gourds bathe once a month 1960s hippies) and

you'll
love Kathmandu."

Nepal is in turmoil and is on the brink of civil war. Strikes,
bombings, and blockades are regular occurences, and Communist rebels
control many of the mountain districts where the trekking routes are.
This is not the time to go there.


True. The situation is a bit dicey right now. But I'd still consider
it. Beautiful country. No trekking this week, though.

"Hong Kong is kind of dull."

It's only dull if you stick to the skyscraper part. There are a lot

of
interesting places and things in other parts of the city, in Macau,

and
in the "outlying islands".


Macau isn't in Hong Kong, is it? Macau was much more interesting than
Hong Kong, IMO..

"Seoul have their points, but they'll probably be out of your budget

as
you describe it (fairly expensive)."

Seoul has no good points.


Every place has *some* good points. (Except maybe Singapore.)

"You can get their on a ferry from Algeceiras (sp) using a Eurail
Pass."

When you consider the cost and time involved in taking a train or bus
to Algeciras and then a ferry to Tangier and then a train to the
interesting parts of Morocco, you might as well just fly directly to
Casablanca.


If you're on a Eurrail pass all that extra train, bus cost is already
there. I rented a car in Tangier and drove around.

Casablanca was useless. I had to go there so I could say I'd been
there, but that was about it. Fez is the top attraction.

"Taipei is worth a trip."

Maybe if you've already visited the other 172 countries in the world.


I'd take Taipei over Tokyo or Seoul.

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Old April 6th, 2005, 02:16 PM
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"Tchiowa" schreef in bericht
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Every place has *some* good points. (Except maybe Singapore.)


The Zoo, the night safari, the Bird Park, the food, the night life, the
people, the shops, the hotels, etc., etc.

Sjoerd


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Old April 6th, 2005, 02:16 PM
Sjoerd
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"Tchiowa" schreef in bericht
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Every place has *some* good points. (Except maybe Singapore.)


The Zoo, the night safari, the Bird Park, the food, the night life, the
people, the shops, the hotels, etc., etc.

Sjoerd


  #48  
Old April 6th, 2005, 03:56 PM
Spehro Pefhany
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On 6 Apr 2005 05:35:39 -0700, the renowned "Tchiowa"
wrote:

Maybe if you've already visited the other 172 countries in the world.


I'd take Taipei over Tokyo or Seoul.


Over Seoul, perhaps, but over Tokyo?!? The people are friendly, and
it's certainly not as ugly and polluted a city as it used to be 20
years ago, but..


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Old April 6th, 2005, 05:27 PM
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Macau isn't in Hong Kong, is it? Macau was much more interesting than
Hong Kong, IMO.. "


Macau is a 45-minute boat ride from Hong Kong, so it's easily
accessible while you're visiting Hong Kong. I enjoyed a lot of Hong
Kong, but I like things like markets and temples. For a traveller more
focused on "sights", then Hong Kong will probably disappoint.

Seoul has no good points.

Every place has *some* good points. (Except maybe Singapore.)


Been to Lagos?

Singapore has good food at least.

If you're on a Eurrail pass all that extra train, bus cost is already
there. I rented a car in Tangier and drove around.


Yeah, but you will waste endless hours getting from Madrid or Barcelona
to Algeciras to Tangier to Fez and then back, and probably have to stay
overnight at least once in somewhere completely uninteresting like
Algeciras. Unless you're really counting euros it doesn't pay.

Casablanca was useless. I had to go there so I could say I'd been
there, but that was about it. Fez is the top attraction.


I don't mean staying in Casablanca, I mean using it as your entry point
since it's much closer to the "Imperial Cities" than Tangier is. Casa
has the Hassan Mosque and that's about it.

I'd take Taipei over Tokyo or Seoul.


Tokyo has MUCH more to offer than Taipei or Seoul, but you need to have
at least a moderate budget and really know where to go.

  #50  
Old April 6th, 2005, 07:12 PM
Bob Myers
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"Tchiowa" wrote in message
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"Hong Kong is kind of dull."

It's only dull if you stick to the skyscraper part. There are a lot

of
interesting places and things in other parts of the city, in Macau,

and
in the "outlying islands".


Macau isn't in Hong Kong, is it? Macau was much more interesting than
Hong Kong, IMO..


Macau is fun, too, but if you think Hong Kong is dull you
just didn't get to the right parts of Hong Kong.


"Taipei is worth a trip."

Maybe if you've already visited the other 172 countries in the world.


I'd take Taipei over Tokyo or Seoul.


And you'd be welcome to it. I've been visiting all three cities
regularly - at least once/year and generally twice - for the last
15 years or so, and I'll still take Tokyo, Seoul, and Taipei in
that order. And Taipei isn't just third, it's a DISTANT third.

Bob M.


 




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