Temporary luggage storage at O'Hare?

In article ,
Cydrome Leader wrote:

In chi.general RPS wrote:
Brent P wrote:

: Human beings steal. It would be foolish to leave one's luggage
: with them, especially in a big city. Maybe somewhere in rural
: nebraska it would work.

Works well in such big cities as London, Tokyo, and Bombay. A licensed
service shouldn't be any riskier than say giving your luggage to an
airline. I would use the same precautions too, like not packing
anything valuable. They can use the same precautions as well, like
x-ray screeing or even hand inspection if something looks suspicious.

Has anybody ever found any "threat" with an x-ray machine?

oversized personal massagers.

..max

max wrote:

In article ,
Cydrome Leader wrote:

In chi.general RPS wrote:
Brent P wrote:

: Human beings steal. It would be foolish to leave one's luggage
: with them, especially in a big city. Maybe somewhere in rural
: nebraska it would work.

Works well in such big cities as London, Tokyo, and Bombay. A licensed
service shouldn't be any riskier than say giving your luggage to an
airline. I would use the same precautions too, like not packing
anything valuable. They can use the same precautions as well, like
x-ray screeing or even hand inspection if something looks suspicious.

Has anybody ever found any "threat" with an x-ray machine?

oversized personal massagers.

o rings...

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Greg

Cydrome Leader wrote:

We tried using a junk storage service at a train station in poland last
year. The people running the counters were complete assholes. I cannot
imagine anybody who has to haul garbage from a counter to a pile of junk is
going to be all that pleasant.


Au contraire Esteemed Cydrome Leader...the folx who man the "left luggage"
counter at the British Museum are top - class...

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Greg

In article ,
Cydrome Leader wrote:

In chi.general RPS wrote:
Brent P wrote:

: Human beings steal. It would be foolish to leave one's luggage
: with them, especially in a big city. Maybe somewhere in rural
: nebraska it would work.

Works well in such big cities as London, Tokyo, and Bombay. A licensed
service shouldn't be any riskier than say giving your luggage to an
airline. I would use the same precautions too, like not packing
anything valuable. They can use the same precautions as well, like
x-ray screeing or even hand inspection if something looks suspicious.

Has anybody ever found any "threat" with an x-ray machine?

there's three ways luggage is screened:

as you mentioned a kinda "x-ray"

swabbing with a receptor

hand check

....all three are used in conjunction with each other.

Yes, "threats" are found. The public doesn't hear about it when they are
found.

Here's a tidbit:

did you know that every time there's a boarding of an Israeli aircraft
at a public airport there's a plainclothes security guard, Israeli
trained, with his finger on the trigger of an automatic machine gun,
somewhere within 300 feet of the airline?

In chi.general kenji wrote:
In article ,
Cydrome Leader wrote:

In chi.general RPS wrote:
Brent P wrote:

: Human beings steal. It would be foolish to leave one's luggage
: with them, especially in a big city. Maybe somewhere in rural
: nebraska it would work.

Works well in such big cities as London, Tokyo, and Bombay. A licensed
service shouldn't be any riskier than say giving your luggage to an
airline. I would use the same precautions too, like not packing
anything valuable. They can use the same precautions as well, like
x-ray screeing or even hand inspection if something looks suspicious.

Has anybody ever found any "threat" with an x-ray machine?

there's three ways luggage is screened:

as you mentioned a kinda "x-ray"

swabbing with a receptor

hand check

...all three are used in conjunction with each other.

Yes, "threats" are found. The public doesn't hear about it when they are
found.

Here's a tidbit:

did you know that every time there's a boarding of an Israeli aircraft

Ooh, this is good. El Al is a shorter way to say it.

at a public airport there's a plainclothes security guard, Israeli
trained, with his finger on the trigger of an automatic machine gun,

All hi-tek. manual machine guns are out these days.

somewhere within 300 feet of the airline?

That sounds really useful. Sometimes the men with the light sticks get rowdy and you need to settle them down.

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 18:27:44 GMT, RPS wrote:

kenji wrote:

: You can't even find a US Post Office mail box anywhere but behind
: airport security.

It would certainly have been reasonable if the storage facility had
security, x-ray screening etc before accepting a bag, that's how I
remember it being done in other places. It would have been convenient,
but I take it from your answer and from my own memory that such
facility is not offered.

My non-pc guess is that in the USA they are allergic to providing
services that require human beings. If it could be done by swiping a
credit card at an automated locker, we would have it. But security
screenings means having 1-2 human employees and that's no-go.


If you stop at "...in the USA they are allergic to providing
service..." that would pretty much cover it.

If they started going out of their way to accomodate reasonable things
like lockers and mail boxes and baggage storage what else might we
start demanding? Comfortable seats in the waiting areas? Security
measures that actually work and weren't thought up by Homer Simpson?
Give people some sense that they have rights and you'll never hear the
end of it.

Jim P.

wrote...


If they started going out of their way to accomodate reasonable things
like lockers and mail boxes and baggage storage what else might we
start demanding? Comfortable seats in the waiting areas? Security
measures that actually work and weren't thought up by Homer Simpson?
Give people some sense that they have rights and you'll never hear the
end of it.



I don't often need a mail box at an airport, but have seen several at DFW.
"Lockers" used to be in many airports, but disappeared long before 9/11, a
mutual problem of lack of profitability and folks putting stuff in an never
returning to pick it up. "Left Luggage" counters could be found in major
train stations (at at 'Hound/Trrailways), but I don't recall ever seeing
them as prominent features of US airports (although once on a double ended
business trip, I arranged with AA's baggage folk to leave a bag for several
days down amongst the room dedicated to unclaimed or misdirected luggage.

Comfortable seats? I've been in enough European, Central and SAmerican
airports to know that comfortable seats and airports do not go together.
The cause? Very simple, for long ago folks in the travel business discovered
that providing comfortable seats or even benches for horizontal a'couching
encouraged all sorts of unwashed and ill-favored folks to move in and stay a
while, overnight on many occasions. If the airport authorities or airlines
wanted you to have a comfortable seat, they would have provided same. But
they don't want you to clog up the place except when preparing to leave or
while connecting (and even then not overnight).

As for security measures, the argument goes on here. I'm of the impression
that the whole drill, providing only modest improvements in real security,
has been largely developed to assuage the fears of much of the traveling
public, to demonstate visibly and attitudinally that airtravel is safe(r).
There are several regular commentators over at flyertalk.com who claim that
security is actually very effective. I don't believe them, any more than I
accept the BS that none of the current security measures work. Don't
confuse the level of effectiveness, in my eyes modest, with your perception
of the inconvenience. Remember, making it inconvnient is one of the
features which convinces John Q. Public (who rarely travel) that security is
"good".

TMO

TOliver wrote:
Comfortable seats? I've been in enough European, Central and SAmerican
airports to know that comfortable seats and airports do not go together.
The cause? Very simple, for long ago folks in the travel business discovered
that providing comfortable seats or even benches for horizontal a'couching
encouraged all sorts of unwashed and ill-favored folks to move in and stay a
while, overnight on many occasions. If the airport authorities or airlines
wanted you to have a comfortable seat, they would have provided same. But
they don't want you to clog up the place except when preparing to leave or
while connecting (and even then not overnight).

In the space of less than a decade, I noticed last summer, that Dubai
(DXB) progressed from assigning a sturdily-built man to poke sleeping
and non-upright passengers with a stick to providing full-length
chaises longues for the overnighters.

Cheers,

George W. Russell
Bangalore

TOliver wrote:
Comfortable seats? I've been in enough European, Central and SAmerican
airports to know that comfortable seats and airports do not go together.
The cause? Very simple, for long ago folks in the travel business discovered
that providing comfortable seats or even benches for horizontal a'couching
encouraged all sorts of unwashed and ill-favored folks to move in and stay a
while, overnight on many occasions. If the airport authorities or airlines
wanted you to have a comfortable seat, they would have provided same. But
they don't want you to clog up the place except when preparing to leave or
while connecting (and even then not overnight).

In the space of less than a decade, I noticed last summer, that Dubai
(DXB) progressed from assigning a sturdily-built man to poke sleeping
and non-upright passengers with a stick to providing full-length
chaises longues for the overnighters.

Cheers,

George W. Russell
Bangalore

TOliver wrote:
Comfortable seats? I've been in enough European, Central and SAmerican
airports to know that comfortable seats and airports do not go together.
The cause? Very simple, for long ago folks in the travel business discovered
that providing comfortable seats or even benches for horizontal a'couching
encouraged all sorts of unwashed and ill-favored folks to move in and stay a
while, overnight on many occasions. If the airport authorities or airlines
wanted you to have a comfortable seat, they would have provided same. But
they don't want you to clog up the place except when preparing to leave or
while connecting (and even then not overnight).

In the space of less than a decade, I noticed last summer, that Dubai
(DXB) progressed from assigning a sturdily-built man to poke sleeping
and non-upright passengers with a stick to providing full-length
chaises longues for the overnighters.

Cheers,

George W. Russell
Bangalore