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Bilingual in Europe versus USA
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 08:39:05 -0700, Hatunen wrote:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 11:30:54 +0200, Dave Frightens Me wrote: On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 15:51:20 -0700, Hatunen wrote: Mostly due to the rise of agriculture. Actually the Egyptians were good at that, weren't they? Yes they were. But Egypt wasn't the "cradle of the human race" and for the most part don't live in "dung covered huts", if that's what you're meaning to imply. I have not idea where that comment came from. Have you done too much flaming today? -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
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On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 23:28:04 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
wrote: On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 08:39:05 -0700, Hatunen wrote: On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 11:30:54 +0200, Dave Frightens Me wrote: On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 15:51:20 -0700, Hatunen wrote: Mostly due to the rise of agriculture. Actually the Egyptians were good at that, weren't they? Yes they were. But Egypt wasn't the "cradle of the human race" and for the most part don't live in "dung covered huts", if that's what you're meaning to imply. I have not idea where that comment came from. Have you done too much flaming today? No. but it wasn't clear if you were trying to lump the Egyptians in with "Africans, in contrast, are still living in dung-covered huts after 10,000 years. This does not speak highly of their cognitive capacity." Jared Diamon shows how and why the sub-Saharan Africans did not develop the sort of civilizations that China, India, Mesopotamia, et al, did. ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote: I thought Africa was regarded as the "cradle" of the human race! (In that the earliest identifiably human remains were found there.) Is that no longer true? Still true. "Civilizations" rise and fall due to many factors, so when considering all of human history, present-day "dung-covered huts" need not contradict a proud civilization a few thousand years ago. It wasn't that long ago. And also, of course, someone seems to be forgetting that Africa includes Egypt, as well as more "modern" examples such as Carthage . . . -- Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar), philologist, biblioholic medievalist http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo |
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Dave Frightens Me wrote: Civilisation and human remains are not one and the same! It's about complex societal structures that were formed, and the infrastructure to support them. -- Ancient Egypt was simple?? -- Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar), philologist, biblioholic medievalist http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo |
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On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:39:54 -0500, erilar
wrote: In article , Dave Frightens Me wrote: Civilisation and human remains are not one and the same! It's about complex societal structures that were formed, and the infrastructure to support them. -- Ancient Egypt was simple?? No, they were quite advanced from what I understand. I don't get it. Did I say something somewhere that denigrated the ancient Egyptians? -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
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Dave Frightens Me wrote: On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:39:54 -0500, erilar wrote: In article , Dave Frightens Me wrote: Civilisation and human remains are not one and the same! It's about complex societal structures that were formed, and the infrastructure to support them. -- Ancient Egypt was simple?? No, they were quite advanced from what I understand. I don't get it. Did I say something somewhere that denigrated the ancient Egyptians? Actually, it was Mixi with another of his ill-considered pronouncements (claiming that all native African culture consists of people who live in "dung-covered huts")! |
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On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 09:58:38 +0200, Dave Frightens Me
wrote: On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:39:54 -0500, erilar wrote: In article , Dave Frightens Me wrote: Civilisation and human remains are not one and the same! It's about complex societal structures that were formed, and the infrastructure to support them. -- Ancient Egypt was simple?? No, they were quite advanced from what I understand. I don't get it. Did I say something somewhere that denigrated the ancient Egyptians? Since Egyptians are Africans, there was an ambiguity involving those other primtive, lazy, stupid Africans Mixi, or someone, brought up. After I mentioned agriculture as the impetus to civilization, your mention of the Egyptians was a good way show Mixi that he is overgeneralizing. ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) writes:
Actually, it was Mixi with another of his ill-considered pronouncements (claiming that all native African culture consists of people who live in "dung-covered huts")! Where did I say "all"? -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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In article ,
Dave Frightens Me wrote: On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:39:54 -0500, erilar wrote: In article , Dave Frightens Me wrote: Civilisation and human remains are not one and the same! It's about complex societal structures that were formed, and the infrastructure to support them. -- Ancient Egypt was simple?? No, they were quite advanced from what I understand. I don't get it. Did I say something somewhere that denigrated the ancient Egyptians? Egypt is in Africa. Someone claimed there's never been an advanced civilization in Africa. -- Mary Loomer Oliver (aka Erilar), philologist, biblioholic medievalist http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo |
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