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I just read on another BB that the Zenith & Horizon will be going to Island
cruises . Witch RCCI also own's . The Horizon will go Jan 2004 and the Zenith after the Bermuda season . The poster who i read it from is most times right . I don't know . Ken G.......... |
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Would you please post a link, or tell us what BB you read this on.
sue KPJEG wrote: I just read on another BB that the Zenith & Horizon will be going to Island cruises . Witch RCCI also own's . The Horizon will go Jan 2004 and the Zenith after the Bermuda season . The poster who i read it from is most times right . I don't know . Ken G.......... |
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Never mind, I went and found it myself. Here is the link:
http://messages.cruisecritic.com/2/O...m=37130683 57 sue Sue and Kevin Mullen wrote: Would you please post a link, or tell us what BB you read this on. sue KPJEG wrote: I just read on another BB that the Zenith & Horizon will be going to Island cruises . Witch RCCI also own's . The Horizon will go Jan 2004 and the Zenith after the Bermuda season . The poster who i read it from is most times right . I don't know . Ken G.......... |
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And Ben will kill me... But given the desire to redefine Celebrity's brand at a more premium level (at least in terms of pricing)... The ships that I don't see fitting are Century, Galaxy and Mercury. The modern focus on premium level demands that almost all cabins on a ship be balcony cabins. Millie class ships have the balconies, but Century class ships don't have enough. What I would do is the following: Build either one or two Bermuda replacement ships with balconies. These are size outliers... but I'm not sure what else to do with Bermuda. Transfer Century, Galaxy and Mercury to the RCI brand. They would be good fits to go along with the Vision class ships for a certain mid size group of ships. Take any planned Radiance hulls and make them Millie sisters. Maybe even move the Radiance class ships to Celebrity. Radiance class size ships are probably a better fit with Celebrity than RCI. RCI's signature for new ships should ONLY be Voyager. Make any new RCI ships Voyager or Voyager Plus ships. --Tom KPJEG wrote: I just read on another BB that the Zenith & Horizon will be going to Island cruises . Witch RCCI also own's . The Horizon will go Jan 2004 and the Zenith after the Bermuda season . The poster who i read it from is most times right . I don't know . Ken G.......... |
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No, Jeff will kill you first! In any case, I would not "trade up" the
Radiance class ships to Celebrity. Based on just our sailing on the Serenade, I wouldn't say it's outfitted nearly as nicely as a Celebrity ship. Wall finishes were "faker" wood in many places, furniture was duller (aka, more sturdy, less creative). And some areas are just plain cheesy in my book (the elephants in the covered pool area), the champagne bar (light wood and seafoam glass out of a 1983 fern bar), and the whole Safari Club thing, while nice, is a bit theme park like. Cheesy just doesn't cut it in the "elegant" Celebrity fleet, imho. Other than Century, both Galaxy and Mercury have a fine number of baloncies I think. Nothing beats the Century-class aqua spas either. I do think Celebrity needs to shed ships to raise per diems to where they claim to want them to be. Oh, and raise the level of the food and service back up to where it should be. Some of us like things that are not dumbed down to the bad taste of the average American consumer. Jeff Tom & Linda wrote: Actually... And Ben will kill me... But given the desire to redefine Celebrity's brand at a more premium level (at least in terms of pricing)... The ships that I don't see fitting are Century, Galaxy and Mercury. The modern focus on premium level demands that almost all cabins on a ship be balcony cabins. Millie class ships have the balconies, but Century class ships don't have enough. What I would do is the following: Build either one or two Bermuda replacement ships with balconies. These are size outliers... but I'm not sure what else to do with Bermuda. Transfer Century, Galaxy and Mercury to the RCI brand. They would be good fits to go along with the Vision class ships for a certain mid size group of ships. Take any planned Radiance hulls and make them Millie sisters. Maybe even move the Radiance class ships to Celebrity. Radiance class size ships are probably a better fit with Celebrity than RCI. RCI's signature for new ships should ONLY be Voyager. Make any new RCI ships Voyager or Voyager Plus ships. --Tom KPJEG wrote: I just read on another BB that the Zenith & Horizon will be going to Island cruises . Witch RCCI also own's . The Horizon will go Jan 2004 and the Zenith after the Bermuda season . The poster who i read it from is most times right . I don't know . Ken G.......... |
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![]() Oh, and raise the level of the food and service back up to where it should be. Some of us like things that are not dumbed down to the bad taste of the average American consumer. Jeff Hmm? Is that why Celebrity started serving that awful lambsteak, Jeff? |
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Yes!!! When I'm President of Celebrity that will be changed!!!!
Jeff Howard Garland wrote: Oh, and raise the level of the food and service back up to where it should be. Some of us like things that are not dumbed down to the bad taste of the average American consumer. Jeff Hmm? Is that why Celebrity started serving that awful lambsteak, Jeff? |
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![]() Benjamin Smith wrote: I think in terms of what defines Celebrity. As an experience the service style, at one point in their existance their cuisine, the zero announcement policies, a certain subdued nature to the cruise. The ships are defined with certain "signature" areas such as the aqua spa with thellasotherapy pools, the provacative art, the outgoing Michael's Clubs, the Cova cafe, and some of the period treatment in lounges. I think Celebrity defined themselves in ship style with the Century, Galaxy, and Mercury and the M class pretty much have these signature areas and have added the specialty restaurants. snip The C class Celebrity ships I would argue are designed to execute the most Celebrity style of cruise. Yes, there are fewer balconies but balconies don't define Celebrity, all new ships have them. The very first line in the movie "Lord of the Rings - The Fellowship of the Rings" is... "The World is changed." What defined Celebrity 7 years ago was in a different time. Like you said. Today ALL ships are loaded with balconies. If you want to define yourself as premium... you need to build on that as a base, and THEN add extra. You can't be premium without balconies. If you don't have balconies you're not even playing on an equal playing field, no less considering yourself premium. To be premium - IF you want to charge more, you need to start with ships with nearly all balconies, and then add those things by which you want to define yourself. To expect to be able to charge extra today on a ship without a lot of balconies, like on Century, is simply not realistic IMO. --Tom |
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Subject: Zenith & Horizon going to Island Cruises !!!!
I *do* think, though I don't like it, that the C class ships may be stretched with specialty restaurants added as well as Hi Ben: If the Specialty restaurants are SO POPULAR, I wonder how come the Captain's Club sent out freebie coupons in the last mailer. In speaking with friends who work in several of the SR's, traffic is way down. History repeating itself???? Remember the first ship(s) to have SR's??? Then the novelty wore off. I have heard the same reports... and through totally non-related sources to those who have commented in cyberworld. 110,000 ton ships for Celebrity? Don't think so. However, the 91,000 Radiance hull is done.. and that has been public knowledge for awhile. Babette |
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