Shooting at Northern Illinois.

Thought I post this first, just to warn europeans to stay away from
northern illinois.


DEKALB, Ill. - A man dressed in black opened fire with a shotgun and
two handguns from a stage of a lecture hall at Northern Illinois
University on Thursday, injuring as many as 18 people, four
critically, before he killed himself, the school's president said.

"PeterL" kirjoitti
...
Thought I post this first, just to warn europeans to stay away from
northern illinois.

Well done.

DEKALB, Ill. - A man dressed in black opened fire with a shotgun and
two handguns from a stage of a lecture hall at Northern Illinois
University on Thursday, injuring as many as 18 people, four
critically, before he killed himself, the school's president said.

I was about to broadcast this piece of news myself. Yes, it is sad that this
happens almost everyday in the USA and so often at school. Americans should
pull themselves together (lawmakers in particular) and collect pistols,
machine guns and bazookas away from ordinary citizens. These tools don't fit
the hands of ordinary people in the first place. And when Joe Smith blows up
with hardware bought from the John J. Rambo supermarket, many innocent
people have to die for no decent reason. Absurd!

"Markku Grönroos" wrote in message
i.fi...

"PeterL" kirjoitti
...
Thought I post this first, just to warn europeans to stay away from
northern illinois.

Well done.

DEKALB, Ill. - A man dressed in black opened fire with a shotgun and
two handguns from a stage of a lecture hall at Northern Illinois
University on Thursday, injuring as many as 18 people, four
critically, before he killed himself, the school's president said.

I was about to broadcast this piece of news myself. Yes, it is sad that
this happens almost everyday in the USA and so often at school. Americans
should pull themselves together (lawmakers in particular) and collect
pistols, machine guns and bazookas away from ordinary citizens. These
tools don't fit the hands of ordinary people in the first place. And when
Joe Smith blows up with hardware bought from the John J. Rambo
supermarket, many innocent people have to die for no decent reason.
Absurd!

OK, Markuu, I'll play along.

In the eyes of the anti-gun people, you have a valid point.

MY question is, how would *you* go about collecting all of the firearms from
the American public if you were in public office, and an anti-gun law were
passed?

On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:14:01 -0600, "Jim Davis"
wrote:


"Markku Grönroos" wrote in message
ti.fi...

"PeterL" kirjoitti
...
Thought I post this first, just to warn europeans to stay away from
northern illinois.

Well done.

DEKALB, Ill. - A man dressed in black opened fire with a shotgun and
two handguns from a stage of a lecture hall at Northern Illinois
University on Thursday, injuring as many as 18 people, four
critically, before he killed himself, the school's president said.

I was about to broadcast this piece of news myself. Yes, it is sad that
this happens almost everyday in the USA and so often at school. Americans
should pull themselves together (lawmakers in particular) and collect
pistols, machine guns and bazookas away from ordinary citizens. These
tools don't fit the hands of ordinary people in the first place. And when
Joe Smith blows up with hardware bought from the John J. Rambo
supermarket, many innocent people have to die for no decent reason.
Absurd!

OK, Markuu, I'll play along.

In the eyes of the anti-gun people, you have a valid point.

MY question is, how would *you* go about collecting all of the firearms from
the American public if you were in public office, and an anti-gun law were
passed?

After the Port Arthur massacre our government declared
certain weapons illegal and provided funds to buy back the
private weapons from the public. An amnesty period was
declared so that no-one would be prosecuted for producing an
unregistered or illegal weapon during that period.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...685752421.html

I couldn't see it working in the USA; apart from the
political differences, the cost would be astronomical. Not
just a bigger population but a much higher guns-per-person
ratio.



Cheers, Alan, Australia
--
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Slovenia

"Alan S" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:14:01 -0600, "Jim Davis"
wrote:


"Markku Grönroos" wrote in message
hti.fi...

"PeterL" kirjoitti
...
Thought I post this first, just to warn europeans to stay away from
northern illinois.

Well done.

DEKALB, Ill. - A man dressed in black opened fire with a shotgun and
two handguns from a stage of a lecture hall at Northern Illinois
University on Thursday, injuring as many as 18 people, four
critically, before he killed himself, the school's president said.

I was about to broadcast this piece of news myself. Yes, it is sad that
this happens almost everyday in the USA and so often at school.
Americans
should pull themselves together (lawmakers in particular) and collect
pistols, machine guns and bazookas away from ordinary citizens. These
tools don't fit the hands of ordinary people in the first place. And
when
Joe Smith blows up with hardware bought from the John J. Rambo
supermarket, many innocent people have to die for no decent reason.
Absurd!

OK, Markuu, I'll play along.

In the eyes of the anti-gun people, you have a valid point.

MY question is, how would *you* go about collecting all of the firearms
from
the American public if you were in public office, and an anti-gun law were
passed?

After the Port Arthur massacre our government declared
certain weapons illegal and provided funds to buy back the
private weapons from the public. An amnesty period was
declared so that no-one would be prosecuted for producing an
unregistered or illegal weapon during that period.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...685752421.html

I couldn't see it working in the USA; apart from the
political differences, the cost would be astronomical. Not
just a bigger population but a much higher guns-per-person
ratio.

I don't see it working here either. I don't know if you're aware, but
Illinois has some of the strictest gun laws in the country. The guy got
through easily, and there were no ligitiment gun carriers to try to stop
him.


Cheers, Alan, Australia
--
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Slovenia

Jim Davis wrote:

I don't see it working here either. I don't know if you're aware, but
Illinois has some of the strictest gun laws in the country.

But does Illinois have any way of preventing gun importation from
neighbouring states?

On 2/15/08 4:19 PM, in article ,
"Alan S" wrote:

On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:14:01 -0600, "Jim Davis"
wrote:


"Markku Grönroos" wrote in message
i.fi...

"PeterL" kirjoitti

..
..
Thought I post this first, just to warn europeans to stay away from
northern illinois.

Well done.

DEKALB, Ill. - A man dressed in black opened fire with a shotgun and
two handguns from a stage of a lecture hall at Northern Illinois
University on Thursday, injuring as many as 18 people, four
critically, before he killed himself, the school's president said.

I was about to broadcast this piece of news myself. Yes, it is sad that
this happens almost everyday in the USA and so often at school. Americans
should pull themselves together (lawmakers in particular) and collect
pistols, machine guns and bazookas away from ordinary citizens. These
tools don't fit the hands of ordinary people in the first place. And when
Joe Smith blows up with hardware bought from the John J. Rambo
supermarket, many innocent people have to die for no decent reason.
Absurd!

OK, Markuu, I'll play along.

In the eyes of the anti-gun people, you have a valid point.

MY question is, how would *you* go about collecting all of the firearms from
the American public if you were in public office, and an anti-gun law were
passed?

After the Port Arthur massacre our government declared
certain weapons illegal and provided funds to buy back the
private weapons from the public. An amnesty period was
declared so that no-one would be prosecuted for producing an
unregistered or illegal weapon during that period.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...since-buyback/
2006/12/13/1165685752421.html

I couldn't see it working in the USA; apart from the
political differences, the cost would be astronomical. Not
just a bigger population but a much higher guns-per-person
ratio.



Cheers, Alan, Australia
--
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Slovenia

They've tried that here. In fact it may still be in operation. It hasn't
worked though. The guns come in from the states in payment for drugs so
while law abiding people turn theirs in, the crooks are smuggling them back
across the border faster than we can get rid of them. Unfortunately,
Vancouver and Toronto are in the midst of a gang war and of course they kill
each other with guns.
--
Martha T2 Canada
1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia

In article , Alan S
wrote:

MY question is, how would *you* go about collecting all of the firearms from
the American public if you were in public office, and an anti-gun law were
passed?

After the Port Arthur massacre our government declared
certain weapons illegal and provided funds to buy back the
private weapons from the public. An amnesty period was
declared so that no-one would be prosecuted for producing an
unregistered or illegal weapon during that period.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...since-buyback/
2006/12/13/1165685752421.html

Hummm... but what about the crime rate overall ?

jay
Sat Feb 16, 2008



I couldn't see it working in the USA; apart from the
political differences, the cost would be astronomical. Not
just a bigger population but a much higher guns-per-person
ratio.



Cheers, Alan, Australia
--
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Slovenia

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 09:36:04 -0800, Go Fig
wrote:

After the Port Arthur massacre our government declared
certain weapons illegal and provided funds to buy back the
private weapons from the public. An amnesty period was
declared so that no-one would be prosecuted for producing an
unregistered or illegal weapon during that period.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...since-buyback/
2006/12/13/1165685752421.html

Hummm... but what about the crime rate overall ?

I used to have the figures at hand. Do some googling. I'm
very happy to live here and not the-)


Cheers, Alan, Australia
--
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Slovenia

In Alan S
wrote:

After the Port Arthur massacre our government declared
certain weapons illegal and provided funds to buy back the
private weapons from the public....

I couldn't see it working in the USA; apart from the
political differences, the cost would be astronomical.

Did it actually "work" in Australia?

Did Australian criminals dutifully line up and turn in their guns?

Or were guns only confiscated from the law-abiding?

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN