Clueless first-timer needs advice about cruises please

Tom & Linda wrote:

We just returned from 7 nights on the Legend of the Seas, and fully a third
of the diners each night were wearing shorts in the main dining room. I was
surprised.


Where was the sailing?

Tom, the Legend is currently doing the Mexican Riviera. As I said, we're
sailing her on 8/29, and I'd just hate to see this be the case then...

~ Peri

San Diego to Mexico



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"John & Beverly" wrote in message
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We just returned from 7 nights on the Legend of the Seas, and fully a
third
of the diners each night were wearing shorts in the main dining room. I
was
surprised.


Where was the sailing?

--Tom

San Diego to Mexico



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"John & Beverly" wrote in message
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We just returned from 7 nights on the Legend of the Seas, and fully a
third
of the diners each night were wearing shorts in the main dining room. I
was
surprised.


Where was the sailing?

--Tom

San Diego to Mexico



"Tom & Linda" wrote in message
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"John & Beverly" wrote in message
news:QaePc.229691$XM6.15254@attbi_s53...
We just returned from 7 nights on the Legend of the Seas, and fully a
third
of the diners each night were wearing shorts in the main dining room. I
was
surprised.


Where was the sailing?

--Tom

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 02:19:11 GMT, Peri
wrote:

John & Beverly wrote:
We just returned from 7 nights on the Legend of the Seas, and fully a third
of the diners each night were wearing shorts in the main dining room. I was
surprised.

John, I'm surprised as well. And disappointed. We're leaving on the Legend at
the end of the month, and I'd really hate to have the atmosphere in the dining
room cheapened in that way.

~ Peri ---- hoping John's cruise was an aberration


I haven't yet embarked on my first cruise ... but I must say I find
the "dress" aspect to be the most offputting. My idea of a holiday is
to relax and enjoy myself, and if there are those who are so full of
it that a relaxed person in shorts "cheapens" their experience, then
I'd have to say there is something inherently wrong with that approach
to holidaying.

This, to me, is the same as those who treat waiters as some sort of
sub-species, instead of ordinary people doing a valuable job.

Sorry if *this* offends ... but really, snobbishness gets up my nose!

Bob T.

On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 02:19:11 GMT, Peri
wrote:

John & Beverly wrote:
We just returned from 7 nights on the Legend of the Seas, and fully a third
of the diners each night were wearing shorts in the main dining room. I was
surprised.

John, I'm surprised as well. And disappointed. We're leaving on the Legend at
the end of the month, and I'd really hate to have the atmosphere in the dining
room cheapened in that way.

~ Peri ---- hoping John's cruise was an aberration


I haven't yet embarked on my first cruise ... but I must say I find
the "dress" aspect to be the most offputting. My idea of a holiday is
to relax and enjoy myself, and if there are those who are so full of
it that a relaxed person in shorts "cheapens" their experience, then
I'd have to say there is something inherently wrong with that approach
to holidaying.

This, to me, is the same as those who treat waiters as some sort of
sub-species, instead of ordinary people doing a valuable job.

Sorry if *this* offends ... but really, snobbishness gets up my nose!

Bob T.

Bob Thomas wrote in message . ..

I haven't yet embarked on my first cruise ... but I must say I find
the "dress" aspect to be the most offputting. My idea of a holiday is
to relax and enjoy myself, and if there are those who are so full of
it that a relaxed person in shorts "cheapens" their experience, then
I'd have to say there is something inherently wrong with that approach
to holidaying.

I think you are kind of misinterpreting things. It has really nothing
to do with snobbery...at all.

There are tons of vacation options available out there that do not
involve dressing up at all. Those folks who choose a cruise vacation
on a mass market (or luxury) cruise line opt for a vacation that does
require (or at least request) a certain degree of dress. There are
cruise vacations out there that do not carry with them a dress code
(Windjammer comes to mind), but for folks who opt for a vacation where
dressing up is part of the experience, your (and other's) disregard
for the expected/requested dress is "offputting".

As you said, your idea of a holiday is to relax and enjoy yourself.
That's great. I think you'll find that most, if not all, cruise
passengers are relaxed and enjoying themselves, even though they take
a little more time to put themselves together before the eveing meal.
Is it really so hard for you to comprehend that some folks actually
ENJOY dressing up a bit while on holiday?

I think the snobbery goes both ways.

Lee



This, to me, is the same as those who treat waiters as some sort of
sub-species, instead of ordinary people doing a valuable job.

Sorry if *this* offends ... but really, snobbishness gets up my nose!

Bob T.

Bob Thomas wrote in message . ..

I haven't yet embarked on my first cruise ... but I must say I find
the "dress" aspect to be the most offputting. My idea of a holiday is
to relax and enjoy myself, and if there are those who are so full of
it that a relaxed person in shorts "cheapens" their experience, then
I'd have to say there is something inherently wrong with that approach
to holidaying.

I think you are kind of misinterpreting things. It has really nothing
to do with snobbery...at all.

There are tons of vacation options available out there that do not
involve dressing up at all. Those folks who choose a cruise vacation
on a mass market (or luxury) cruise line opt for a vacation that does
require (or at least request) a certain degree of dress. There are
cruise vacations out there that do not carry with them a dress code
(Windjammer comes to mind), but for folks who opt for a vacation where
dressing up is part of the experience, your (and other's) disregard
for the expected/requested dress is "offputting".

As you said, your idea of a holiday is to relax and enjoy yourself.
That's great. I think you'll find that most, if not all, cruise
passengers are relaxed and enjoying themselves, even though they take
a little more time to put themselves together before the eveing meal.
Is it really so hard for you to comprehend that some folks actually
ENJOY dressing up a bit while on holiday?

I think the snobbery goes both ways.

Lee



This, to me, is the same as those who treat waiters as some sort of
sub-species, instead of ordinary people doing a valuable job.

Sorry if *this* offends ... but really, snobbishness gets up my nose!

Bob T.

Younger folks tend to dislike being required to dress up. The trend is to
provide more flexibility so that those who wish to dress up can, and those
that don't want to don't have to.

Many cruise lines are now providing more flexible dining options including
RCCL, NCL, Princess which includes alternate dining options. Some dining
options are more formal, usually at least one casual venue is provided.

Then of course there are the snobs that want to require everyone on the ship
to dress up otherwise it ruins their whole cruise experience. I wouldn't
worry about them, its their problem not yours.

"Lee" wrote in message
om...
Bob Thomas wrote in message
. ..

I haven't yet embarked on my first cruise ... but I must say I find
the "dress" aspect to be the most offputting. My idea of a holiday is
to relax and enjoy myself, and if there are those who are so full of
it that a relaxed person in shorts "cheapens" their experience, then
I'd have to say there is something inherently wrong with that approach
to holidaying.

I think you are kind of misinterpreting things. It has really nothing
to do with snobbery...at all.

There are tons of vacation options available out there that do not
involve dressing up at all. Those folks who choose a cruise vacation
on a mass market (or luxury) cruise line opt for a vacation that does
require (or at least request) a certain degree of dress. There are
cruise vacations out there that do not carry with them a dress code
(Windjammer comes to mind), but for folks who opt for a vacation where
dressing up is part of the experience, your (and other's) disregard
for the expected/requested dress is "offputting".

As you said, your idea of a holiday is to relax and enjoy yourself.
That's great. I think you'll find that most, if not all, cruise
passengers are relaxed and enjoying themselves, even though they take
a little more time to put themselves together before the eveing meal.
Is it really so hard for you to comprehend that some folks actually
ENJOY dressing up a bit while on holiday?

I think the snobbery goes both ways.

Lee



This, to me, is the same as those who treat waiters as some sort of
sub-species, instead of ordinary people doing a valuable job.

Sorry if *this* offends ... but really, snobbishness gets up my nose!

Bob T.

dm wrote:
Younger folks tend to dislike being required to dress up. The trend is to
provide more flexibility so that those who wish to dress up can, and those
that don't want to don't have to.

Many cruise lines are now providing more flexible dining options including
RCCL, NCL, Princess which includes alternate dining options. Some dining
options are more formal, usually at least one casual venue is provided.

I thought RCCL was still the standard dining rooms and buffet (and a premium
venue or two)? When did it go more flexible?

to dress up otherwise it ruins their whole cruise experience. I wouldn't
worry about them, its their problem not yours.

They tend not to obsess on NCL, cannot speak to other cruise lines.

"Lee" wrote in message
om...
Bob Thomas wrote in message
. ..

I haven't yet embarked on my first cruise ... but I must say I find
the "dress" aspect to be the most offputting. My idea of a holiday is
to relax and enjoy myself, and if there are those who are so full of
it that a relaxed person in shorts "cheapens" their experience, then
I'd have to say there is something inherently wrong with that approach
to holidaying.

I think you are kind of misinterpreting things. It has really nothing
to do with snobbery...at all.

There are tons of vacation options available out there that do not
involve dressing up at all. Those folks who choose a cruise vacation
on a mass market (or luxury) cruise line opt for a vacation that does
require (or at least request) a certain degree of dress. There are
cruise vacations out there that do not carry with them a dress code
(Windjammer comes to mind), but for folks who opt for a vacation where
dressing up is part of the experience, your (and other's) disregard
for the expected/requested dress is "offputting".

As you said, your idea of a holiday is to relax and enjoy yourself.
That's great. I think you'll find that most, if not all, cruise
passengers are relaxed and enjoying themselves, even though they take
a little more time to put themselves together before the eveing meal.
Is it really so hard for you to comprehend that some folks actually
ENJOY dressing up a bit while on holiday?

I think the snobbery goes both ways.

Lee



This, to me, is the same as those who treat waiters as some sort of
sub-species, instead of ordinary people doing a valuable job.

Sorry if *this* offends ... but really, snobbishness gets up my nose!

Bob T.



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