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Old December 31st, 2008, 02:51 PM posted to aus.tv.digital,rec.travel.australia+nz
Frank Slootweg
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Default DVB-T + Analog TV on laptop while travelling?

[Crossposted to aus.tv.digital and rec.travel.australia+nz.]

On our next trip to/in Australia, mainly in rural/outback areas, we
will be taking a mini-laptop with us.

I was wondering if it would be worth our while to buy a small (USB)
DVB-T (Digital Video Broadcasting Terrestial) tuner, probably a combined
DVB-T/Analog one, probably a Pinnacle PCTV Hybrid Pro Stick [1].

Would such a stick/tuner be useful in rural/outback areas, i.e.
small(er) towns?

Would there likely be DVB-T, or analog TV, or both?

Would the supplied small rod antenna be sufficient?

Any other comments or/and suggestions?

Thanks in advance for any and all response.

[1]
http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/uk/Products/Consumer+Products/PCTV+Tuners/PCTV+Analog_Digital+PVR/PCTV+Hybrid+Pro+Stick+%28320e%29.htm
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Old January 1st, 2009, 08:17 AM posted to aus.tv.digital,rec.travel.australia+nz
John H
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Default DVB-T + Analog TV on laptop while travelling?

Hi Frank,
Well,
Firstly re the analogue side of that device....is it compatibale with
Australian Pal system, or for US NTSC system.
(I cant determine where you are located), thus may not or will not work in
Aust if not PAL analogue tuner.
From their website I cant work out if the device is multi system
accessible/selectable or not. ie PAL, & NTSC etc

re Rural areas.
Most have reasonable analogue, but not all, without a High antenna system as
transmitters can be up to 100Kms from where you are.
Some have digital access from transmitters that also are a long way from
where you are.

eg I have a son on a farm 350Kms Sth East from Adelaide in Sth Aust. and
they get local transmitter of analogue about 80kms away with a 40ft mast
plus antenna boosters otherwise only get local translator abou 52Kms away.

Their Digital channels are also coming from the 100Km distant transmitters,
but fade in and out in day and work reasonably at night with the 40ft mast
and antenna boosters.
So what level of signal you would get with a USB or similar receiver into a
PC remains to be seen and will greatly depend upon where you are in the
regional area(s).

Re outback.
Most outback places have just about zero signal for ordinary terrestial TV
unless thay have a satellite dish and get signal from satellite, which has
the free to air stations re-transmitted on them.

So the whole situation could/would be very hit & miss.

Around major cities there should be no problem, but that isnt where you
appear to be going.

John H



"Frank Slootweg" wrote in message
.home.nl...
[Crossposted to aus.tv.digital and rec.travel.australia+nz.]

On our next trip to/in Australia, mainly in rural/outback areas, we
will be taking a mini-laptop with us.

I was wondering if it would be worth our while to buy a small (USB)
DVB-T (Digital Video Broadcasting Terrestial) tuner, probably a combined
DVB-T/Analog one, probably a Pinnacle PCTV Hybrid Pro Stick [1].

Would such a stick/tuner be useful in rural/outback areas, i.e.
small(er) towns?

Would there likely be DVB-T, or analog TV, or both?

Would the supplied small rod antenna be sufficient?

Any other comments or/and suggestions?

Thanks in advance for any and all response.

[1]
http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/uk/Products/Consumer+Products/PCTV+Tuners/PCTV+Analog_Digital+PVR/PCTV+Hybrid+Pro+Stick+%28320e%29.htm



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Old January 1st, 2009, 12:38 PM posted to aus.tv.digital,rec.travel.australia+nz
Frank Slootweg
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Default DVB-T + Analog TV on laptop while travelling?

John H wrote:
Hi Frank,
Well,
Firstly re the analogue side of that device....is it compatibale with
Australian Pal system, or for US NTSC system.
(I cant determine where you are located), thus may not or will not work in
Aust if not PAL analogue tuner.
From their website I cant work out if the device is multi system
accessible/selectable or not. ie PAL, & NTSC etc


Thanks for that! I'm from The Netherlands and we also have PAL (like
the rest of the *civilized* world! :-)). The website was Pinnacle's
general UK site, but I will buy the device in The Netherlands, so it
should be OK, but I will check the outside of the package and if it's
unclear I will let them note that I can return it if it's non-PAL.

re Rural areas.
Most have reasonable analogue, but not all, without a High antenna system as
transmitters can be up to 100Kms from where you are.
Some have digital access from transmitters that also are a long way from
where you are.

eg I have a son on a farm 350Kms Sth East from Adelaide in Sth Aust. and
they get local transmitter of analogue about 80kms away with a 40ft mast
plus antenna boosters otherwise only get local translator abou 52Kms away.

Their Digital channels are also coming from the 100Km distant transmitters,
but fade in and out in day and work reasonably at night with the 40ft mast
and antenna boosters.
So what level of signal you would get with a USB or similar receiver into a
PC remains to be seen and will greatly depend upon where you are in the
regional area(s).

Re outback.
Most outback places have just about zero signal for ordinary terrestial TV
unless thay have a satellite dish and get signal from satellite, which has
the free to air stations re-transmitted on them.

So the whole situation could/would be very hit & miss.

Around major cities there should be no problem, but that isnt where you
appear to be going.


My wife isn't going to like it one bit, me putting a 40 feet mast and
electronics in our bags, but heh, *you* said it, not me! :-)

But all kidding aside: Thanks very much for your detailed information!

I'll see how we go. After all, it's only a small device to take along,
not very expensive and it might be fun to play with on these cold days
(it's minus 10 degrees C here)!

Thanks again.
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Old January 4th, 2009, 09:42 PM posted to aus.tv.digital,rec.travel.australia+nz
Di
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Default DVB-T + Analog TV on laptop while travelling?

We did a trip through the Northern Territory late last year via caravan,
using a tv with a standard definition tuner. Digital tv was only available
in Darwin, analogue everywhere else within towns. The station that has the
most coverage through the Territory, and in fact throughout Australia, is
called Imparja. They used to broadcast Neighbours because of their
affliliation with Channel 10 from Queensland. However that association was
discontinued last year (2008) and I don't know whether they even get
Neighbours now. I never saw the show the whole 2 months we were away. Mind
you, my husband, King of the Remotes, would have clicked past it at high
speed if he had seen it g
I tried checking the IMparja guide for you but there is no information on
the program, whether this is due to it no longer being carried by them, or
due to the fact all the channels haven't started the 2009 seasons of such
shows tand don't, till late January or early February.


Frank Slootweg wrote:
John H wrote:
Hi Frank,
Well,
Firstly re the analogue side of that device....is it compatibale with
Australian Pal system, or for US NTSC system.
(I cant determine where you are located), thus may not or will not
work in Aust if not PAL analogue tuner.
From their website I cant work out if the device is multi system
accessible/selectable or not. ie PAL, & NTSC etc


Thanks for that! I'm from The Netherlands and we also have PAL (like
the rest of the *civilized* world! :-)). The website was Pinnacle's
general UK site, but I will buy the device in The Netherlands, so it
should be OK, but I will check the outside of the package and if it's
unclear I will let them note that I can return it if it's non-PAL.

re Rural areas.
Most have reasonable analogue, but not all, without a High antenna
system as transmitters can be up to 100Kms from where you are.
Some have digital access from transmitters that also are a long way
from where you are.

eg I have a son on a farm 350Kms Sth East from Adelaide in Sth Aust.
and they get local transmitter of analogue about 80kms away with a
40ft mast plus antenna boosters otherwise only get local translator
abou 52Kms away.

Their Digital channels are also coming from the 100Km distant
transmitters, but fade in and out in day and work reasonably at
night with the 40ft mast and antenna boosters.
So what level of signal you would get with a USB or similar receiver
into a PC remains to be seen and will greatly depend upon where you
are in the regional area(s).

Re outback.
Most outback places have just about zero signal for ordinary
terrestial TV unless thay have a satellite dish and get signal from
satellite, which has the free to air stations re-transmitted on them.

So the whole situation could/would be very hit & miss.

Around major cities there should be no problem, but that isnt where
you appear to be going.


My wife isn't going to like it one bit, me putting a 40 feet mast and
electronics in our bags, but heh, *you* said it, not me! :-)

But all kidding aside: Thanks very much for your detailed
information!

I'll see how we go. After all, it's only a small device to take
along, not very expensive and it might be fun to play with on these
cold days (it's minus 10 degrees C here)!

Thanks again.


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Old January 4th, 2009, 09:44 PM posted to aus.tv.digital,rec.travel.australia+nz
Di
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Default DVB-T + Analog TV on laptop while travelling?

Correction - Imparja has the most coverage throughout rural and outback
Australia, not in the cities.

Di wrote:
We did a trip through the Northern Territory late last year via
caravan, using a tv with a standard definition tuner. Digital tv was
only available in Darwin, analogue everywhere else within towns. The
station that has the most coverage through the Territory, and in fact
throughout Australia, is called Imparja. They used to broadcast
Neighbours because of their affliliation with Channel 10 from
Queensland. However that association was discontinued last year
(2008) and I don't know whether they even get Neighbours now. I
never saw the show the whole 2 months we were away. Mind you, my
husband, King of the Remotes, would have clicked past it at high
speed if he had seen it g I tried checking the IMparja guide for you
but there is no
information on the program, whether this is due to it no longer being
carried by them, or due to the fact all the channels haven't started
the 2009 seasons of such shows tand don't, till late January or early
February.

Frank Slootweg wrote:
John H wrote:
Hi Frank,
Well,
Firstly re the analogue side of that device....is it compatibale
with Australian Pal system, or for US NTSC system.
(I cant determine where you are located), thus may not or will not
work in Aust if not PAL analogue tuner.
From their website I cant work out if the device is multi system
accessible/selectable or not. ie PAL, & NTSC etc


Thanks for that! I'm from The Netherlands and we also have PAL (like
the rest of the *civilized* world! :-)). The website was Pinnacle's
general UK site, but I will buy the device in The Netherlands, so it
should be OK, but I will check the outside of the package and if it's
unclear I will let them note that I can return it if it's non-PAL.

re Rural areas.
Most have reasonable analogue, but not all, without a High antenna
system as transmitters can be up to 100Kms from where you are.
Some have digital access from transmitters that also are a long way
from where you are.

eg I have a son on a farm 350Kms Sth East from Adelaide in Sth Aust.
and they get local transmitter of analogue about 80kms away with a
40ft mast plus antenna boosters otherwise only get local translator
abou 52Kms away.

Their Digital channels are also coming from the 100Km distant
transmitters, but fade in and out in day and work reasonably at
night with the 40ft mast and antenna boosters.
So what level of signal you would get with a USB or similar receiver
into a PC remains to be seen and will greatly depend upon where you
are in the regional area(s).

Re outback.
Most outback places have just about zero signal for ordinary
terrestial TV unless thay have a satellite dish and get signal from
satellite, which has the free to air stations re-transmitted on
them. So the whole situation could/would be very hit & miss.

Around major cities there should be no problem, but that isnt where
you appear to be going.


My wife isn't going to like it one bit, me putting a 40 feet mast
and electronics in our bags, but heh, *you* said it, not me! :-)

But all kidding aside: Thanks very much for your detailed
information!

I'll see how we go. After all, it's only a small device to take
along, not very expensive and it might be fun to play with on these
cold days (it's minus 10 degrees C here)!

Thanks again.


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Old January 5th, 2009, 03:00 AM posted to aus.tv.digital,rec.travel.australia+nz
Gerrit
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Default DVB-T + Analog TV on laptop while travelling?


"Frank Slootweg" wrote in message
b.home.nl...

Frank

It seems to me that the best solution for guaranteed success is to buy a
satellite dish when you get here.
May be a bit more expensive which would tend to be a minus (we are Dutch
after all) but anything else is just too iffy. That is if you really want
the distraction of TV in the bush.

Gerrit - Perth where we have had over 30 every day since 28 December and
forecast to remain there to at least this Friday


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Old January 5th, 2009, 05:05 PM posted to aus.tv.digital,rec.travel.australia+nz
Frank Slootweg
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Default DVB-T + Analog TV on laptop while travelling?

Gerrit wrote:

"Frank Slootweg" wrote in message
b.home.nl...

Frank

It seems to me that the best solution for guaranteed success is to buy a
satellite dish when you get here.
May be a bit more expensive which would tend to be a minus (we are Dutch
after all) but anything else is just too iffy. That is if you really want
the distraction of TV in the bush.


Gerrit,

So what you're basically saying is that I take *either* the wife *or*
a sat dish to Oz!? :-)

Gerrit - Perth where we have had over 30 every day since 28 December and
forecast to remain there to at least this Friday


Yeah, rub it it, will you!? :-) All we have here is bloody cold and
bloody colds!
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Old January 6th, 2009, 09:09 AM posted to aus.tv.digital,rec.travel.australia+nz
Gerrit
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Default DVB-T + Analog TV on laptop while travelling?


"Frank Slootweg" wrote in message
b.home.nl...
Gerrit wrote:

"Frank Slootweg" wrote in message
b.home.nl...

Frank

It seems to me that the best solution for guaranteed success is to buy a
satellite dish when you get here.
May be a bit more expensive which would tend to be a minus (we are Dutch
after all) but anything else is just too iffy. That is if you really want
the distraction of TV in the bush.


Gerrit,

So what you're basically saying is that I take *either* the wife *or*
a sat dish to Oz!? :-)


I was actually thinking of a quiet wine or beer drinking in the solitude of
the outback next to a campfire. Besides if I were ever to meet your wife I
wouldn't want to have to wear a bulletproof vest. :-)

Gerrit - Perth where we have had over 30 every day since 28 December and
forecast to remain there to at least this Friday


Yeah, rub it it, will you!? :-) All we have here is bloody cold and
bloody colds!


Forecasts for Perth:
Wednesday Fine, hot Min 19 Max 35
Thursday Fine, hot. Min 21 Max 37
Friday Fine, hot. Min 21 Max 37
Saturday Fine. Min 19 Max 34
Sunday Fine, hot. Min 20 Max 37
Monday Fine. Min 19 Max 28
Tuesday Fine. Min 16 Max 30
I have read about the cold out your way and am wondering whether there may
finally be an elfstedentocht?Would love to see that.


 




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