Cubana IL96 Aircraft - In US Airspace

Cubana will be using Russian built IL96 aircraft this winter on
scheduled services between Havana and Toronto. And yes, the flights are
in US airspace when flying a direct routes between Cuba and Canada.

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Cubana will be using Russian built IL96 aircraft this winter on
scheduled services between Havana and Toronto. And yes, the flights are
in US airspace when flying a direct routes between Cuba and Canada.


Why not? US airlines regularly fly across Cuba enroute from the U.S. to
places like Grand Cayman, Montego Bay, Kingston, etc.

wrote:

Cubana will be using Russian built IL96 aircraft this winter on
scheduled services between Havana and Toronto. And yes, the flights are
in US airspace when flying a direct routes between Cuba and Canada.


What's the point you are trying to make? How else would you expect them
to fly to Canada?

"Mike Hunt" postmaster@localhost wrote in message
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Cubana will be using Russian built IL96 aircraft this winter on
scheduled services between Havana and Toronto. And yes, the flights are
in US airspace when flying a direct routes between Cuba and Canada.


What's the point you are trying to make?

I would imagine the thought process was, "The Commies are coming!" As it's a
Russian built aircraft, it will have full armament and weapons system.


How else would you expect them to fly to Canada?

Via Greenland?

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"Mike Hunt" postmaster@localhost wrote in message
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wrote:

Cubana will be using Russian built IL96 aircraft this winter on
scheduled services between Havana and Toronto. And yes, the flights are
in US airspace when flying a direct routes between Cuba and Canada.


What's the point you are trying to make?

I would imagine the thought process was, "The Commies are coming!" As it's
a Russian built aircraft, it will have full armament and weapons system.

When Aeroflot and PanAm flew between the U.S. and Soviet Union while the
cold war was still thawing, Ilyushins flew in U.S. air space regularly. No,
they weren't armed in any way.

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Cubana will be using Russian built IL96 aircraft this winter on
scheduled services between Havana and Toronto. And yes, the flights are
in US airspace when flying a direct routes between Cuba and Canada.


Per US - Cuban aviation agreements these Canada - Cuba routes followed
a proscribed route, roughly it's a corridor that follows the US East
Coast, then up the Hudson River valley to Toronto/Montreal...

This was not always the case, years ago Cuban flights were not
permitted such generous US overfly rights...they had to swing out over
the Atlantic and then down to Cuba...

Another fun fact: did you know that a number of US airlines negotiated
landing rights in various Cuban cities in _1962_? These landing rights
are still valid, when commercial service opens up again between the two
countries they will be in force. Delta and Continental (among others)
have these landing rights...

All this stuff has been discussed to death on this froup over the
years, google for more info...

--
Best
Greg

"Gregory Morrow" wrote in message
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wrote:

Cubana will be using Russian built IL96 aircraft this winter on
scheduled services between Havana and Toronto. And yes, the flights are
in US airspace when flying a direct routes between Cuba and Canada.


Per US - Cuban aviation agreements these Canada - Cuba routes followed
a proscribed route, roughly it's a corridor that follows the US East
Coast, then up the Hudson River valley to Toronto/Montreal...

If it was proscribed then, at best, they should have been intercepted and
forced to land.

JohnT

Sancho Panza wrote:

When Aeroflot and PanAm flew between the U.S. and Soviet Union while the
cold war was still thawing, Ilyushins flew in U.S. air space regularly. No,
they weren't armed in any way.

How do you know?

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Sancho Panza wrote:

When Aeroflot and PanAm flew between the U.S. and Soviet Union while the
cold war was still thawing, Ilyushins flew in U.S. air space regularly.

In the mid-90s, long after both PanAm and the Soviet Union were gone,
Aeroflot was still operating their LAX-SVO flights with an IL-96
(it's a 767 now).

"Mike Hunt" postmaster@localhost wrote in message
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Sancho Panza wrote:

When Aeroflot and PanAm flew between the U.S. and Soviet Union while the
cold war was still thawing, Ilyushins flew in U.S. air space regularly.
No, they weren't armed in any way.

How do you know?

Actually, Pan Am worked their flights at JFK and I'm sure the planes were
inspected while on the ground. And other IL62 aircraft have also served US
points with other airlines, including LOT (Polish), CSA (Czech), etc.