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sedation, was Bilingual in Europe versus USA
On Thu, 7 Sep 2006 15:31:17 +0200, Giovanni Drogo
wrote: On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, wrote: Basically I have read that there is evidence that "sedation" (building of permanent settlements and the infrastructure that goes along with it) Do you really use the word "sedation" in this context to indicate the action of settling down ? I may be biased by the fact we in Italian would use the word "insediamento" which would indicate both the action of settling down, and a settlement as a place. No. As someone mother-tongue English who also speaks Italian, I can assure you that sedation only means medically drugged. -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
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Dave Frightens Me wrote:
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:55:35 +0100, Padraig Breathnach wrote: There is, however, a tendency in America to create verbs. It even has its own verb: verb. I think that also happens in British English. There was no pure English even before the USA! It happens far more in America. It irks me when people invent a new verb when there is already a perfectly serviceable one already in use. It also irks me when it rains when I plan some outdoor activity. I know; I know. I can't stop either happening, and I just get on with life. But I am allowed feel grouchy, am I not? -- PB The return address has been MUNGED My travel writing: http://www.iol.ie/~draoi/ |
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Giovanni Drogo wrote: On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, wrote: Basically I have read that there is evidence that "sedation" (building of permanent settlements and the infrastructure that goes along with it) Do you really use the word "sedation" in this context to indicate the action of settling down ? [snip] Okay, now I've got access to the reference. But I don't think anyone is gonna like the correct word either. The word used was "sedentism". The reference is "Ideas" by Peter Watson. |
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sedation, was Bilingual in Europe versus USA
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Giovanni Drogo wrote: On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, wrote: Basically I have read that there is evidence that "sedation" (building of permanent settlements and the infrastructure that goes along with it) Do you really use the word "sedation" in this context to indicate the action of settling down ? [snip] Okay, now I've got access to the reference. But I don't think anyone is gonna like the correct word either. The word used was "sedentism". The reference is "Ideas" by Peter Watson. Google gives "about 55,800" hits. A glance at the first few supports the definition above. NSOED does not have it, but has a word that clearly comes from the same roots, and with similar meaning: sedentarisation (and it scores three times as many Google hits). -- PB The return address has been MUNGED My travel writing: http://www.iol.ie/~draoi/ |
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Dave Frightens Me wrote:
Do you really use the word "sedation" in this context to indicate the action of settling down ? I may be biased by the fact we in Italian would use the word "insediamento" which would indicate both the action of settling down, and a settlement as a place. No. As someone mother-tongue English who also speaks Italian, I can assure you that sedation only means medically drugged. I know I've heard the word "sedation" used in archaeology in a way that doesn't mean medically drugged. Yup. From a Google search, it appears that the word refers to a dating procedure or, at least, an ordering procedure. If you ignore the Google links that obviously refer to the medical meaning and carefully screen out links to sites that by coincidence include both the word "archaeology" and "sedation" you'll still come up with enough links to persuade naysayers that "sedation" has a meaning besides the medical one. Here's a fragment from one Google link: "The main use of sedation in archaeology is to determine temporal order." (I can't access the full article in the journal AMERICAN ANTHROPOLOGIST at Anthrosource.net.) Here's another from the ANNUAL REVIEW OF ARCHAEOLOGY: "Dating Methods 9503... Sedation in archaeology..." Happily, I did turn up one reasonably accessible link. The abstract of the article "The Unitary Association Method of Relative Dating and Its Application to Archaeological Data" that appears the in JOURNAL OF ARCHAEOLOGICAL METHOD AND THEORY includes the following: "The Unitary Association Method of Relative Dating is an alternative to seriation methods that is less susceptible to spatial variation and offers analytical strengths needed for regional chronological analyses." The abstract doesn't include the word "sedation;" that word apparently is in the complete article, but the Google link inludes the following from the complete article, "Like all archaeological methods, UAM is not a stand-alone procedure. There are times when sedation will be the best way to determine the order..." An abstract from the MIDCONTINENTAL JOURNAL OF ARCHAEOLOGY actually includes the word "sedation": "Temporal variation in the morphology and decoration of late Middle Archaic (ca. 6000-5000 B.P.) bone pins from the middle Mississippi and lower Ohio River valleys is explored. A preliminary chronology of pin morphology and decoration is proposed based on sedation, radiocarbon dates, stratigraphy, associations between engraved decoration and head morphology, and similarities in head shape and cross section. Square-top pins appear to be the earliest forms, occurring prior to 5500 B.P." Karen Selwyn I'm picking up a a link via Google in the |
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sedation, was Bilingual in Europe versus USA
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:40:55 +0100, Padraig Breathnach
wrote: Dave Frightens Me wrote: On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 14:55:35 +0100, Padraig Breathnach wrote: There is, however, a tendency in America to create verbs. It even has its own verb: verb. I think that also happens in British English. There was no pure English even before the USA! It happens far more in America. It irks me when people invent a new verb when there is already a perfectly serviceable one already in use. It also irks me when it rains when I plan some outdoor activity. I know; I know. I can't stop either happening, and I just get on with life. But I am allowed feel grouchy, am I not? Are irk and grouch both proper English? ) -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
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On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:30:14 -0400, Karen Selwyn
wrote: Dave Frightens Me wrote: Do you really use the word "sedation" in this context to indicate the action of settling down ? I may be biased by the fact we in Italian would use the word "insediamento" which would indicate both the action of settling down, and a settlement as a place. No. As someone mother-tongue English who also speaks Italian, I can assure you that sedation only means medically drugged. I know I've heard the word "sedation" used in archaeology in a way that doesn't mean medically drugged. A very specific piece of terminology in an area I'm unfamiliar with. Apparently I was wrong. I'm picking up a a link via Google in the ....? Please, don't keep us in suspense! -- --- DFM - http://www.deepfriedmars.com --- -- |
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Dave Frightens Me wrote:
I'm picking up a a link via Google in the ...? Please, don't keep us in suspense! Whoops! An artifact of poor editing last night! Karen Selwyn |
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