Queen MAry 2

Karen

Two days after the cruise and "cooling off period" I do agree with your
opinion.
However, it was the "one thing in life" we had to do it.
In particular the "price was right"
I would not pay the regular rate to go on this ship again, but if there will
be another opportunity we would go again.
It is hard to mach leaving New York on the largest ship in the world,
go to the Island and come back, relaxed and tanned, after meeting other
great people
and sometimes the "good comes with the not so good"


With regards;

Jerzy W. Kwiatkowski


"Karen Segboer" wrote in message
...
"Jerzy" wrote:

This is the BEST cruise/ocean trip ever.
If you have been on others PLEASE see this one before you voice your
opinion

Sorry, Jerzy, but I've been on more cruises than I can count, was on
two other ships besides the QM2 last year, and I prefer the QM2 the
*least* of the ships I sailed in 2004. I wanted to like it. I
expected to like it. The truth is, it was one of the most mediocre
cruises I've been on, and I generally love crossings.

For us, the fun luxury cruise last year was the Radisson Navigator,
and the surprise sleeper ship was the Voyager of the Seas. The QM2 is
a yawn.

I'm wondering if you've ever been on any other Cunard ships to compare
and contrast good Cunard service from bad?

Karen



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Karen

Two days after the cruise and "cooling off period" I do agree with your
opinion.
However, it was the "one thing in life" we had to do it.
In particular the "price was right"
I would not pay the regular rate to go on this ship again, but if there will
be another opportunity we would go again.
It is hard to mach leaving New York on the largest ship in the world,
go to the Island and come back, relaxed and tanned, after meeting other
great people
and sometimes the "good comes with the not so good"


With regards;

Jerzy W. Kwiatkowski


"Karen Segboer" wrote in message
...
"Jerzy" wrote:

This is the BEST cruise/ocean trip ever.
If you have been on others PLEASE see this one before you voice your
opinion

Sorry, Jerzy, but I've been on more cruises than I can count, was on
two other ships besides the QM2 last year, and I prefer the QM2 the
*least* of the ships I sailed in 2004. I wanted to like it. I
expected to like it. The truth is, it was one of the most mediocre
cruises I've been on, and I generally love crossings.

For us, the fun luxury cruise last year was the Radisson Navigator,
and the surprise sleeper ship was the Voyager of the Seas. The QM2 is
a yawn.

I'm wondering if you've ever been on any other Cunard ships to compare
and contrast good Cunard service from bad?

Karen



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Karen Segboer wrote:



The QM2 being the largest ship in the world doesn't really faze me one
way or the other .

I wish most people felt this way and it was a non-issue for ship appeal.

It won't be for long so Cunard will have to focus on something else.

Ben S.

Karen Segboer wrote:



The QM2 being the largest ship in the world doesn't really faze me one
way or the other .

I wish most people felt this way and it was a non-issue for ship appeal.

It won't be for long so Cunard will have to focus on something else.

Ben S.

Hi Jerzy,

We just came back from QM2.
We Liked
- Size
- Departing from New York

We are off to New York next week and are coming home on the Queen Mary 2 -we
live in the UK.
Where are you from? I only ask as Cunard Brouchure has the 10th April down
as the first West to East Transatlantic crossing. What dates did you sail?
We would have liked to have gone earlier but as I said, they booked us on
the first date that they were starting the crossings for this year on.

After 12 cruises it was the BEST.
For an average person, going on QM2 first time would be overwhelmed.
We have never been on a cruise before and are really excited about it.
We have nothing to compare the ship too so I guess we will find everything
overwhelming!

The food, service and restaurants choice is the best of all the cruises we
been on.
We have eaten in the "free dining room" called Britannia"
The food and the service was wonderful,
Glad to hear it. Though as we have paid for the food in the price of the
ticket we aim to eat most of our meals in the "Britannia"

We were on deck 5 in the middle and everything was close.
We will definitely go on this ship again
We are going to be on deck 4 and I hope to say when we return that we'll
definitely go on the ship again.

- Seeing Hollywood Stars
Who did you see?

-jewelry auction
- Art auction
any more information of these Jerzy? where? what did they sell? what sort of
prices did they start from?

- No activities
I presume that was from your choice?
Did you go the Illuminations? What were the shops like?
Did you try out any of the "Ranch Spa" treatments?
Did you visit their library?

It is hard to match leaving New York on the largest ship in the world,
go to the Island and come back, relaxed and tanned, after meeting other
great people
We ar spending 6 day in NewYork prior to sailing home, and this was one of
reasons we chose to sail home, the pleasure of coming back relaxed.
But TANNED? crossing the Atlantic in March??

Looking forward to hearing back from you
Sharon.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerzy"
Newsgroups: rec.travel.cruises
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 12:39 AM
Subject: Qeen Mary 2


We just came back from QM2.
After 12 cruises it was the BEST.
I have read some reviews and I honor your opinion, however, most of the
were incorrect.
For an average person, going on QM2 first time would be overwhelmed.
The food, service and restaurants choice is the best of all the cruises we
been on.
Tood English ($20.00 Lunch and $ 30.00 Dinner) is worth every penny.
If you ever thought to see the "highlife" go there.
It never bother us the separate dining rooms for the "upper class"
I would like that too if I have to pay 40-50 grand per cabin per week.
Most rewarding
- food in Todd English
- Jewelry Auction
- Overall decoration

Disappointing:
- Entertainment in the main theater

With Regards

Jerzy W. Kwiatkowski

Hi Jerzy,

We just came back from QM2.
We Liked
- Size
- Departing from New York

We are off to New York next week and are coming home on the Queen Mary 2 -we
live in the UK.
Where are you from? I only ask as Cunard Brouchure has the 10th April down
as the first West to East Transatlantic crossing. What dates did you sail?
We would have liked to have gone earlier but as I said, they booked us on
the first date that they were starting the crossings for this year on.

After 12 cruises it was the BEST.
For an average person, going on QM2 first time would be overwhelmed.
We have never been on a cruise before and are really excited about it.
We have nothing to compare the ship too so I guess we will find everything
overwhelming!

The food, service and restaurants choice is the best of all the cruises we
been on.
We have eaten in the "free dining room" called Britannia"
The food and the service was wonderful,
Glad to hear it. Though as we have paid for the food in the price of the
ticket we aim to eat most of our meals in the "Britannia"

We were on deck 5 in the middle and everything was close.
We will definitely go on this ship again
We are going to be on deck 4 and I hope to say when we return that we'll
definitely go on the ship again.

- Seeing Hollywood Stars
Who did you see?

-jewelry auction
- Art auction
any more information of these Jerzy? where? what did they sell? what sort of
prices did they start from?

- No activities
I presume that was from your choice?
Did you go the Illuminations? What were the shops like?
Did you try out any of the "Ranch Spa" treatments?
Did you visit their library?

It is hard to match leaving New York on the largest ship in the world,
go to the Island and come back, relaxed and tanned, after meeting other
great people
We ar spending 6 day in NewYork prior to sailing home, and this was one of
reasons we chose to sail home, the pleasure of coming back relaxed.
But TANNED? crossing the Atlantic in March??

Looking forward to hearing back from you
Sharon.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerzy"
Newsgroups: rec.travel.cruises
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 12:39 AM
Subject: Qeen Mary 2


We just came back from QM2.
After 12 cruises it was the BEST.
I have read some reviews and I honor your opinion, however, most of the
were incorrect.
For an average person, going on QM2 first time would be overwhelmed.
The food, service and restaurants choice is the best of all the cruises we
been on.
Tood English ($20.00 Lunch and $ 30.00 Dinner) is worth every penny.
If you ever thought to see the "highlife" go there.
It never bother us the separate dining rooms for the "upper class"
I would like that too if I have to pay 40-50 grand per cabin per week.
Most rewarding
- food in Todd English
- Jewelry Auction
- Overall decoration

Disappointing:
- Entertainment in the main theater

With Regards

Jerzy W. Kwiatkowski

Karen Segboer wrote:
Benjamin Smith wrote:


Karen Segboer wrote:


The QM2 being the largest ship in the world doesn't really faze me one
way or the other .


I wish most people felt this way and it was a non-issue for ship appeal.


For the life of me, I can't fathom this need to build bigger and
longer, with more tonnage.

You do, Karen. American folks have a thing for big things. Our cars,
homes, land we own, tend to be bigger and much larger than we need them
to be. At the marina, many pay attention to the largest yacht, not the
sleekest or highest quality ones. We seek prestige and variety with size.


It does nothing at all for the passenger,
but only brings in revenue for the company. It's easy to see that
we're all to be housed in sardine-like accomodations at sea soon so
the cruise lines can continue to make big bucks.


I think the newer/bigger ships do better in terms of actual space for
passengers. The space ratios are higher but they are inflated by atria
and loads of cabins. Cabins have the all-so-precious balconies.

I wish there were more mass market but smaller ships.


People keep making excuses for companies. I ask for this and I get a
barrage of comments about how cruises are businesses and companies have
to make money, yada, yada, yada. I also, though not lately, get folks
giving me sermons on how marketing should decide everything and
marketing says smaller ships aren't desirable so the hell with them.

There is a difference in the mindsets of some people in business. Some
businesses provide a service and charge for it, others are in it to make
money in a chosen industry. Big public companies have pressure from
stockholders for growth. Private companies have other pressures
sometimes, but not always for growth. But, people need to know that not
all businesses the main point is to provide money. Some folks actually
want to provide a service and the business comes out of their passion to
bring a product to the public. Some cruise lines came form this passion,
unfortunately, some of them were purchased by the big boys.

I wish for smaller mass market ships too. And I think it is important to
say this, so at least a voice is heard that some of us are sick of
gigantic ships (for me 85,000 tons is very large). At this point,
smaller means the 85,000 ton ships, the mid sized are 110,000 and up and
mega means around Voyager size and above. It's crazy and way oversized
and the cruise public are buying into what I feel is this oversized ship
insanity.

Ben (thinks QM2 should have been 90,000 to 100,000 tons or so)

Karen





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Karen Segboer wrote:
Benjamin Smith wrote:


Karen Segboer wrote:


The QM2 being the largest ship in the world doesn't really faze me one
way or the other .


I wish most people felt this way and it was a non-issue for ship appeal.


For the life of me, I can't fathom this need to build bigger and
longer, with more tonnage.

You do, Karen. American folks have a thing for big things. Our cars,
homes, land we own, tend to be bigger and much larger than we need them
to be. At the marina, many pay attention to the largest yacht, not the
sleekest or highest quality ones. We seek prestige and variety with size.


It does nothing at all for the passenger,
but only brings in revenue for the company. It's easy to see that
we're all to be housed in sardine-like accomodations at sea soon so
the cruise lines can continue to make big bucks.


I think the newer/bigger ships do better in terms of actual space for
passengers. The space ratios are higher but they are inflated by atria
and loads of cabins. Cabins have the all-so-precious balconies.

I wish there were more mass market but smaller ships.


People keep making excuses for companies. I ask for this and I get a
barrage of comments about how cruises are businesses and companies have
to make money, yada, yada, yada. I also, though not lately, get folks
giving me sermons on how marketing should decide everything and
marketing says smaller ships aren't desirable so the hell with them.

There is a difference in the mindsets of some people in business. Some
businesses provide a service and charge for it, others are in it to make
money in a chosen industry. Big public companies have pressure from
stockholders for growth. Private companies have other pressures
sometimes, but not always for growth. But, people need to know that not
all businesses the main point is to provide money. Some folks actually
want to provide a service and the business comes out of their passion to
bring a product to the public. Some cruise lines came form this passion,
unfortunately, some of them were purchased by the big boys.

I wish for smaller mass market ships too. And I think it is important to
say this, so at least a voice is heard that some of us are sick of
gigantic ships (for me 85,000 tons is very large). At this point,
smaller means the 85,000 ton ships, the mid sized are 110,000 and up and
mega means around Voyager size and above. It's crazy and way oversized
and the cruise public are buying into what I feel is this oversized ship
insanity.

Ben (thinks QM2 should have been 90,000 to 100,000 tons or so)

Karen





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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:47:54 GMT, Benjamin Smith wrote:

I wish there were more mass market but smaller ships.


People keep making excuses for companies. I ask for this and I get a
barrage of comments about how cruises are businesses and companies have
to make money, yada, yada, yada. I also, though not lately, get folks
giving me sermons on how marketing should decide everything and
marketing says smaller ships aren't desirable so the hell with them.

There is a difference in the mindsets of some people in business. Some
businesses provide a service and charge for it, others are in it to make
money in a chosen industry. Big public companies have pressure from
stockholders for growth. Private companies have other pressures
sometimes, but not always for growth. But, people need to know that not
all businesses the main point is to provide money. Some folks actually
want to provide a service and the business comes out of their passion to
bring a product to the public. Some cruise lines came form this passion,

Well, Ben, if there is a cruise opportunity for the ship sizes you say,
incorporating many of your design elements, chances are decent to good that
it will be done.

MSC is approaching this in many ways.

However, those ships that do offer smaller size are often out of the reach
of the typical cruisers budget (RSSC, Crystal etc) or offer an experience
that one is not willing to pay for. Or they are super-secret, no-can-tell,
SilverSeas cruises that only elite RTCers are allowed on. I hear they have
military-grade, encrypted by Blowfish brochures and decoder rings and a
biometric Sail Card that matches your DNA to the MI6 online database of the
Royal Family.

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 23:47:54 GMT, Benjamin Smith wrote:

I wish there were more mass market but smaller ships.


People keep making excuses for companies. I ask for this and I get a
barrage of comments about how cruises are businesses and companies have
to make money, yada, yada, yada. I also, though not lately, get folks
giving me sermons on how marketing should decide everything and
marketing says smaller ships aren't desirable so the hell with them.

There is a difference in the mindsets of some people in business. Some
businesses provide a service and charge for it, others are in it to make
money in a chosen industry. Big public companies have pressure from
stockholders for growth. Private companies have other pressures
sometimes, but not always for growth. But, people need to know that not
all businesses the main point is to provide money. Some folks actually
want to provide a service and the business comes out of their passion to
bring a product to the public. Some cruise lines came form this passion,

Well, Ben, if there is a cruise opportunity for the ship sizes you say,
incorporating many of your design elements, chances are decent to good that
it will be done.

MSC is approaching this in many ways.

However, those ships that do offer smaller size are often out of the reach
of the typical cruisers budget (RSSC, Crystal etc) or offer an experience
that one is not willing to pay for. Or they are super-secret, no-can-tell,
SilverSeas cruises that only elite RTCers are allowed on. I hear they have
military-grade, encrypted by Blowfish brochures and decoder rings and a
biometric Sail Card that matches your DNA to the MI6 online database of the
Royal Family.