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scammed in Cambodia by a hooker
Cambodia set-up
Editor; I'm asking that you post this letter to aid other travelers to Cambodia. Last week a friend and myself were traveling to Sihanoukville via Koh Kong and as I have done many times before we booked a hotel for the night. We then set out for dinner and a few drinks. As we had one of the travel guides from the border (tall guy with small beard spoke better English than myself), he picked us up at the hotel after dinner and took us to the famed Chicken Ranch so we could fine some company. We then returned to the hotel and I had a problem with the girl, so I sent her on her way. About 1 hour later there was a knock at my door; there was my tour guide saying we had to go to the police station or they would come here and arrest me, as a compliant was made against me by the girl. Upon arrival I was told that the girl had said I made her take drugs and that I beat her up. Of course there were no marks and no drugs. Then it hit me: sounds like a set-up. Of course she was crying and putting on quite a show. I told them that this was just not true and to go ahead and lock me up. But no, they wanted to settle this now, tonight. Again I said go to hxxl. This went on for 2 hours. The starting price was 1000 U.S Dollars and I was told by the tour guide in the company of the police that if I didn't pay I would never be seen again. At that point I became worried, having lived here in Thailand for 6 years I have heard some bad stories. After another hour we had the price down to 200 dollars and then we settled for 150 dollars. I was then free to go after I put my fingerprint on a piece of paper and gave them my name. I would advise you to stay away from Koh Kong and Cambodia in the future. This was my 15th trip to Cambodia. Sign me, Dumb In Pattaya |
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scammed in Cambodia by a hooker
This sort of thing is not limited to Cambodia and Thailand, it happens all over. In the Philippines, for example, very similar incidents are increasingly common. One scenario is for a foreign traveler to come to an understanding with someone about sex for compensation, only to find that the story changes from "yes, yes, yes" to "no, no, no" and/or to "more money" back in the hotel. The situation deteriorates, perhaps with an argument being heard by hotel employees, perhaps with the girl leaving the room visibly angry, perhaps in tears. Later, the girl, escorted by police, confronts the foreign traveler, leading to a visit to a police substation, leading to claims that the foreign traveler has violated one or more laws. Papers for filing charges are filled out, accompanied by well-rehearsed explanations about how much trouble the foreign traveler is about to be in, about how difficult it will be to deal with charges once they are officially filed, about how much better it would be for the foreign traveler to come to an amicable financial settlement before charges are filed, etc. The police will usually be happy to provide transportation to a bank with an ATM machine so that the foreign traveler can conveniently withdraw a few hundred dollars in order to make the financial settlement. The foreign traveler ends up poorer but wiser. The girl and individual police officers/officials end up sharing a small bonanza. On Jan 26, 2:06 pm, wrote: Cambodia set-up Editor; I'm asking that you post this letter to aid other travelers to Cambodia. Last week a friend and myself were traveling to Sihanoukville via Koh Kong and as I have done many times before we booked a hotel for the night. We then set out for dinner and a few drinks. As we had one of the travel guides from the border (tall guy with small beard spoke better English than myself), he picked us up at the hotel after dinner and took us to the famed Chicken Ranch so we could fine some company. We then returned to the hotel and I had a problem with the girl, so I sent her on her way. About 1 hour later there was a knock at my door; there was my tour guide saying we had to go to the police station or they would come here and arrest me, as a compliant was made against me by the girl. Upon arrival I was told that the girl had said I made her take drugs and that I beat her up. Of course there were no marks and no drugs. Then it hit me: sounds like a set-up. Of course she was crying and putting on quite a show. I told them that this was just not true and to go ahead and lock me up. But no, they wanted to settle this now, tonight. Again I said go to hxxl. This went on for 2 hours. The starting price was 1000 U.S Dollars and I was told by the tour guide in the company of the police that if I didn't pay I would never be seen again. At that point I became worried, having lived here in Thailand for 6 years I have heard some bad stories. After another hour we had the price down to 200 dollars and then we settled for 150 dollars. I was then free to go after I put my fingerprint on a piece of paper and gave them my name. I would advise you to stay away from Koh Kong and Cambodia in the future. This was my 15th trip to Cambodia. Sign me, Dumb In Pattaya |
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scammed in Cambodia by a hooker
The answer is quite simple dont go with hookers why do guys feel the need to
have to pay for it why cant they find a woman outside of a girlie bar you deserve all you get wrote in message ps.com... This sort of thing is not limited to Cambodia and Thailand, it happens all over. In the Philippines, for example, very similar incidents are increasingly common. One scenario is for a foreign traveler to come to an understanding with someone about sex for compensation, only to find that the story changes from "yes, yes, yes" to "no, no, no" and/or to "more money" back in the hotel. The situation deteriorates, perhaps with an argument being heard by hotel employees, perhaps with the girl leaving the room visibly angry, perhaps in tears. Later, the girl, escorted by police, confronts the foreign traveler, leading to a visit to a police substation, leading to claims that the foreign traveler has violated one or more laws. Papers for filing charges are filled out, accompanied by well-rehearsed explanations about how much trouble the foreign traveler is about to be in, about how difficult it will be to deal with charges once they are officially filed, about how much better it would be for the foreign traveler to come to an amicable financial settlement before charges are filed, etc. The police will usually be happy to provide transportation to a bank with an ATM machine so that the foreign traveler can conveniently withdraw a few hundred dollars in order to make the financial settlement. The foreign traveler ends up poorer but wiser. The girl and individual police officers/officials end up sharing a small bonanza. On Jan 26, 2:06 pm, wrote: Cambodia set-up Editor; I'm asking that you post this letter to aid other travelers to Cambodia. Last week a friend and myself were traveling to Sihanoukville via Koh Kong and as I have done many times before we booked a hotel for the night. We then set out for dinner and a few drinks. As we had one of the travel guides from the border (tall guy with small beard spoke better English than myself), he picked us up at the hotel after dinner and took us to the famed Chicken Ranch so we could fine some company. We then returned to the hotel and I had a problem with the girl, so I sent her on her way. About 1 hour later there was a knock at my door; there was my tour guide saying we had to go to the police station or they would come here and arrest me, as a compliant was made against me by the girl. Upon arrival I was told that the girl had said I made her take drugs and that I beat her up. Of course there were no marks and no drugs. Then it hit me: sounds like a set-up. Of course she was crying and putting on quite a show. I told them that this was just not true and to go ahead and lock me up. But no, they wanted to settle this now, tonight. Again I said go to hxxl. This went on for 2 hours. The starting price was 1000 U.S Dollars and I was told by the tour guide in the company of the police that if I didn't pay I would never be seen again. At that point I became worried, having lived here in Thailand for 6 years I have heard some bad stories. After another hour we had the price down to 200 dollars and then we settled for 150 dollars. I was then free to go after I put my fingerprint on a piece of paper and gave them my name. I would advise you to stay away from Koh Kong and Cambodia in the future. This was my 15th trip to Cambodia. Sign me, Dumb In Pattaya |
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If you go to Cambodia and 'companions' are part of the journey you deserve
everything you get. wrote in message ups.com... Cambodia set-up Editor; I'm asking that you post this letter to aid other travelers to Cambodia. Last week a friend and myself were traveling to Sihanoukville via Koh Kong and as I have done many times before we booked a hotel for the night. We then set out for dinner and a few drinks. As we had one of the travel guides from the border (tall guy with small beard spoke better English than myself), he picked us up at the hotel after dinner and took us to the famed Chicken Ranch so we could fine some company. We then returned to the hotel and I had a problem with the girl, so I sent her on her way. About 1 hour later there was a knock at my door; there was my tour guide saying we had to go to the police station or they would come here and arrest me, as a compliant was made against me by the girl. Upon arrival I was told that the girl had said I made her take drugs and that I beat her up. Of course there were no marks and no drugs. Then it hit me: sounds like a set-up. Of course she was crying and putting on quite a show. I told them that this was just not true and to go ahead and lock me up. But no, they wanted to settle this now, tonight. Again I said go to hxxl. This went on for 2 hours. The starting price was 1000 U.S Dollars and I was told by the tour guide in the company of the police that if I didn't pay I would never be seen again. At that point I became worried, having lived here in Thailand for 6 years I have heard some bad stories. After another hour we had the price down to 200 dollars and then we settled for 150 dollars. I was then free to go after I put my fingerprint on a piece of paper and gave them my name. I would advise you to stay away from Koh Kong and Cambodia in the future. This was my 15th trip to Cambodia. Sign me, Dumb In Pattaya |
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On Jan 26, 1:06 pm, wrote: Cambodia set-up Editor; I'm asking that you post this letter to aid other travelers to Cambodia. ..... This was my 15th trip to Cambodia. Sign me, Dumb In Pattaya No one deserves this. This is a set up. there are set ups in many forms of business and politics. Sex is natural and will always be part of human interaction. There is nothing wrong with two people making an arrangement between themselves to exchange money for sex. The best response is probably to stick to your guns and never pay anything. Another thing you can do beforehand in a strange city is to go with the girl to another hotel room. Not your real hotel room. There are many hotels in Asia known as "short time houses." Then when you are finished having fun, leave quickly making sure she does not know where you go. You should always talk to the girl carefully before going with her. Don't go with a girl because some man introduces you. Meet her yourself. If you can take a digital picture of the people before they try this scam, like when you first meet them. Then if they do, post it on the internet under the name of the country. Print the photo out at a local internet shop and post it at a bulletin board in the town where it happened. Another reason this happens is when people get drunk. You do not need to get drunk to enjoy sex. You will be taken advantage of more easily. Also if you can stay longer in the country you can find out more about these people and "persuade" them not to do this anymore. sarp |
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scammed in Cambodia by a hooker
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 08:47:28 GMT, "pied piper"
wrote: The answer is quite simple dont go with hookers why do guys feel the need to have to pay for it why cant they find a woman outside of a girlie bar you deserve all you get If the person you meet has bad intentions the same thing could happen wherever you happened to find them. Unfortunately, the most successful scams of this type are often pulled by people who initially appear to be the most respectable and trustworthy. Anyone, from the well dressed "university student" in the hotel lobby "waiting for her friend", to the man in the expensive suit in the street who claims to be a "doctor" and wants to introduce you to his "friend" who owns a gem shop could all be up to some trick. It takes quite a lot of experience to distinguish between those who are after your money and those who are genuinely friendly, and very often you only learn your lesson the hard way. Chris wrote in message ups.com... This sort of thing is not limited to Cambodia and Thailand, it happens all over. In the Philippines, for example, very similar incidents are increasingly common. One scenario is for a foreign traveler to come to an understanding with someone about sex for compensation, only to find that the story changes from "yes, yes, yes" to "no, no, no" and/or to "more money" back in the hotel. The situation deteriorates, perhaps with an argument being heard by hotel employees, perhaps with the girl leaving the room visibly angry, perhaps in tears. Later, the girl, escorted by police, confronts the foreign traveler, leading to a visit to a police substation, leading to claims that the foreign traveler has violated one or more laws. Papers for filing charges are filled out, accompanied by well-rehearsed explanations about how much trouble the foreign traveler is about to be in, about how difficult it will be to deal with charges once they are officially filed, about how much better it would be for the foreign traveler to come to an amicable financial settlement before charges are filed, etc. The police will usually be happy to provide transportation to a bank with an ATM machine so that the foreign traveler can conveniently withdraw a few hundred dollars in order to make the financial settlement. The foreign traveler ends up poorer but wiser. The girl and individual police officers/officials end up sharing a small bonanza. On Jan 26, 2:06 pm, wrote: Cambodia set-up Editor; I'm asking that you post this letter to aid other travelers to Cambodia. Last week a friend and myself were traveling to Sihanoukville via Koh Kong and as I have done many times before we booked a hotel for the night. We then set out for dinner and a few drinks. As we had one of the travel guides from the border (tall guy with small beard spoke better English than myself), he picked us up at the hotel after dinner and took us to the famed Chicken Ranch so we could fine some company. We then returned to the hotel and I had a problem with the girl, so I sent her on her way. About 1 hour later there was a knock at my door; there was my tour guide saying we had to go to the police station or they would come here and arrest me, as a compliant was made against me by the girl. Upon arrival I was told that the girl had said I made her take drugs and that I beat her up. Of course there were no marks and no drugs. Then it hit me: sounds like a set-up. Of course she was crying and putting on quite a show. I told them that this was just not true and to go ahead and lock me up. But no, they wanted to settle this now, tonight. Again I said go to hxxl. This went on for 2 hours. The starting price was 1000 U.S Dollars and I was told by the tour guide in the company of the police that if I didn't pay I would never be seen again. At that point I became worried, having lived here in Thailand for 6 years I have heard some bad stories. After another hour we had the price down to 200 dollars and then we settled for 150 dollars. I was then free to go after I put my fingerprint on a piece of paper and gave them my name. I would advise you to stay away from Koh Kong and Cambodia in the future. This was my 15th trip to Cambodia. Sign me, Dumb In Pattaya |
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scammed in Cambodia by a hooker
You are completely disconnected from reality.
The female in the situation is being exploited by someone from more affluent circumstances...who, at the end of the day just walks away, leaving the victim to be victimised again...thanks for nothing. Would it not be preferable to donate the money that you spent exploiting someone who is vulnerable towards helping that person escape their vulnerability. When, in your mind, you decide that you will engage in the exploitation of another human, no matter how trivial you may believe this to be, yet again, you deserve everything you get. wrote in message oups.com... On Jan 26, 1:06 pm, wrote: Cambodia set-up Editor; I'm asking that you post this letter to aid other travelers to Cambodia. ..... This was my 15th trip to Cambodia. Sign me, Dumb In Pattaya No one deserves this. This is a set up. there are set ups in many forms of business and politics. Sex is natural and will always be part of human interaction. There is nothing wrong with two people making an arrangement between themselves to exchange money for sex. The best response is probably to stick to your guns and never pay anything. Another thing you can do beforehand in a strange city is to go with the girl to another hotel room. Not your real hotel room. There are many hotels in Asia known as "short time houses." Then when you are finished having fun, leave quickly making sure she does not know where you go. You should always talk to the girl carefully before going with her. Don't go with a girl because some man introduces you. Meet her yourself. If you can take a digital picture of the people before they try this scam, like when you first meet them. Then if they do, post it on the internet under the name of the country. Print the photo out at a local internet shop and post it at a bulletin board in the town where it happened. Another reason this happens is when people get drunk. You do not need to get drunk to enjoy sex. You will be taken advantage of more easily. Also if you can stay longer in the country you can find out more about these people and "persuade" them not to do this anymore. sarp |
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wrote in message ups.com... snipped here and there... We then returned to the hotel and I had a problem with the girl, so I sent her on her way. About 1 hour later there was a knock at my door; there was my tour guide saying we had to go to the police station or they would come here and arrest me, as a compliant was made against me by the girl. All I have to say is, that's what you get when you pay for sex. I'm not a religious person - but I do have moral standards, and paying for sex is immoral. The "victimless crime" is never victimless, and is a crime (whether it's illegal there or not)... Bryan |
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On Feb 1, 11:46 am, "Bryan" wrote:
All I have to say is, that's what you get when you pay for sex. I'm not a religious person - but I do have moral standards, and paying for sex is immoral. The "victimless crime" is never victimless, and is a crime (whether it's illegal there or not)... Bryan No that is not what you get when you pay for sex. You could say the same thing about government corruption which is also theft. You could say the same thing about people selling you shoddy goods on ebay or from a walk-in store. You could say anytime you get ripped off, it's because your activity was immoral. Exchanging money for sex is a free will arrangement between two individuals. there is nothing wrong with it. It should not be illegal at all. Paying for sex is not immoral at all, and it hurts no one. sarp |
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scammed in Cambodia by a hooker
In article , Bryan says...
All I have to say is, that's what you get when you pay for sex. I'm not a religious person - but I do have moral standards, and paying for sex is immoral. The "victimless crime" is never victimless, and is a crime (whether it's illegal there or not)... I've never paid for sex either, but IMHO prostitution is just another service like many (of course only if the person providing the service freely chooses to do so and is old enough). There is nothing "immoral" in paying for sex. -- Alfred Molon http://www.molon.de - Photos of Asia, Africa and Europe |
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