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Fat Slobs Should Pay Extra
"mrtravel" wrote in message . .. Larry in AZ wrote: Waiving the right to remain silent, mrtravel said: Larry in AZ wrote: Waiving the right to remain silent, (John Kulp) said: On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:32:06 GMT, Larry in AZ wrote: Waiving the right to remain silent, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" said: That, too, but they have CERTAINLY narrowed them considerably since I first traveled by air! There used to be two seats on either side of a fairly wide aisle, then it became three on one side, two on the other, then three and three.... now it's half a dozen in the middle, PLUS three and three. (And it used to be possible to walk past the flight attendants' service cart to access a lavatory, without them having to move the cart to an alcove to allow passage.) True, planes have gotten bigger and wider, but not enough larger to allow for the number of passengers they try to squeeze into "coach". (Even First Class is not nearly so spacious as it once was.) Agreed. I can remember when you could exit from a coach window seat without everyone else needing to get completely out of their seats for you to get by. And the seats and arm rests were wider as well. Remember what fares you paid in today's dollars too? Cars are also much more expensive. So are homes. The average home is bigger. Cars are smaller. But have more features that the older ones. My 1955 Chevy convertible was not much difference in size than a lot of the new cars. Probably smaller than a lot of the Lexus / MB models. |
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
yeadeagisss wrote: EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote: David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote: [] What aircraft have you actually flown on with that configuration? How should I know? I choose them by their destination, not their model-numbers. If you refuse to deal in facts, that's your problem. Not understanding the significant differences in major airplane models and their interior layouts is one manifestation of that refusal. Really? I don't know why YOU travel, but I do so to reach particular destinations to attend particular scheduled events. Consequently, the "when" and "where" is important to me, the make and model of the aircraft that carries me there is not. -- (*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www.davidhorne.net (email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about. Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins |
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
yeadeagisss wrote: EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote: David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote: EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote: There used to be two seats on either side of a fairly wide aisle, then it became three on one side, two on the other, then three and three.... now it's half a dozen in the middle, PLUS three and three. What aircraft have you actually flown on with that configuration? How should I know? I choose them by their destination, not their model-numbers. If you refuse to deal in facts, that's your problem. Not understanding the significant differences in major airplane models and their interior layouts is one manifestation of that refusal. Really? I don't know why YOU travel, S'okay. I don't know why you pointlessly capitalize words as if you're yelling, but there you are. but I do so to reach particular destinations to attend particular scheduled events. The conveyance that gets me there is part of the trip. It's a simple safety practice to familiarize one's self with the configuration of the aircraft that gets one there. Also, it prevents one from looking like an idiot when one makes specious claims about seating configurations of different kinds of aircraft. You made a claim about that (see quoted bit above), but when questioned about, you did your usual flailing about, in that bloviating way of showing that you really didn't know what you're talking about. You do this often. Why is that? Consequently, the "when" and "where" is important to me, the make and model of the aircraft that carries me there is not. Sucks to be you. But since you won't be on any of my flights to Europe in the near future, it's a moot point. |
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Larry in AZ wrote: Waiving the right to remain silent, mrtravel said: Larry in AZ wrote: Cars are also much more expensive. So are homes. The average home is bigger. Cars are smaller. Actually, after adjusting for inflation, cars have not gotten more expensive. 1988: $10,000 bought a new Honda Civic 2008: $18,000 buys a new Honda Civic Note that CPI inflation between those two years causes $10,000 in 1988 dollars to be about $18,000 in 2008 dollars. And the 2008 Honda Civic is somewhat larger, and better in most ways, than the 1988 Honda Civic. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Timothy J. Lee Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome. No warranty of any kind is provided with this message. |
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Timothy J. Lee wrote:
Actually, after adjusting for inflation, cars have not gotten more expensive. 1988: $10,000 bought a new Honda Civic 2008: $18,000 buys a new Honda Civic Here's another comparison: 1996 Toyota Camry LE AT: MSRP: $20728, Street Price: $17,000-17,500. 2009 Toyota Camry LE AT: MSRP: $22145, Street Price: $19,000-19,500. $2000 higher street price in 13 years, but the 2009 includes a lot more standard equipment, including ABS, TPMS, & RKE, all of which were options (or not available) in 1996. Plus the 2009 has a lot more air bags, a larger engine, a larger body, and better fuel economy. Adjusting for inflation, cars have gotten _less_ expensive in the U.S.. I'm comparing prices in California (the 1996 is based on what we paid, actually $16,988). The 2009 higher number is based on CarsDirect (which is usually about $500 more than what you can get the vehicle for yourself). |
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