Can the TeaParty reverse this tide of ever expanding government?

No, they could only make things worse by screwing themselves and everyone
else,
eliminating their own social security and medicare, raising state and local
taxes to pay for things the federal government
would no longer pay for, extend their chickenhawk,retard mentality to wars
against iran and n korea, let
the oil companies run the price of gas back up to $5 a gallon, let the
bankers and brokers go back to raping, robbing, and plundering,
and the medical insurance companies pay out 50 cents on every dollar taken
in while increasing the obscene wealth of the already obscenely
wealthy, including multi million dollar bonuses

this won't happen however, because the ignorant, stupid, fat ass, crying,
whining, retarded cocksuckers are destroying their own party
and running against themselves


all the democrats have to do is show these ugly,fat,loud mouth assholes on
tv,

nobody, even other fat ass, ignorant, stupid assholes will identify with
these mongrels





"Jerry Okamura" wrote in message
...
Yes.

"O'Donovan, PJ, Himself" wrote in message
...
Can the TeaParty reverse this tide of ever expanding government?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/4zEvleths264b10

Excerpts:

"...As Frederick Hayek and the great Austrian economists taught us,
socialism in all forms -- be it the "International Socialism" of the
Communists of the "National Socialism" of the Nazi Party -- is an
attempt to extend politics into the economic realm. In order to create
perfect equality or end class divisions or establish the 1000-year
Reich or whatever the reformers are promising, it is necessary to take
control of economic activity and once that happens, human freedom
ends....

...What we have been witnessing in this country, then, is a slow but
steady erosion of individual freedom through the gradual
centralization of everything in Washington. This has not been achieved
by one big blow, like the Russian Revolution, but is the cumulative
effect of a thousand little movements, each intent on achieving its
own piece of "reform" by demanding that decision-making be centralized
in order to accomplish their agenda......"

"..Few are ready to recognize that the rise of fascism and naziism
was
not a reaction against the socialist trends of the preceding period
but a necessary outcome of those tendencies. This is a truth which
most people were unwilling to see even when the similarities of many
of the repellent features of the internal regimes in communist Russia
and National Socialist Germany were widely recognized. As a result,
many who think themselves infinitely superior to the aberrations of
naziism, and sincerely hate all its manifestations, work at the same
time for ideals whose realization would lead straight to the abhorred
tyranny....."

Frederick Hayek- Nobel prize winning Economist in his book "The Road
to Serfdom".

"..Basically National Socialism and Marxism are the same."

Friedrich A. Hayek
Nobel Laureate


And:

"..We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic
system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair
salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to
wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we
are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.."

Quoted by Toland, 1976, "Adolf Hitler" speech, p. 306

On Sep 26, 11:20Â*am, "Jerry Okamura"
wrote:
"mg" wrote in message

...
On Sep 22, 6:00 am, "O'Donovan, PJ, Himself"
wrote:





Can the TeaParty reverse this tide of ever expanding government?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/4zEvleths264b10

Excerpts:

"...As Frederick Hayek and the great Austrian economists taught us,
socialism in all forms -- be it the "International Socialism" of the
Communists of the "National Socialism" of the Nazi Party -- is an
attempt to extend politics into the economic realm. In order to create
perfect equality or end class divisions or establish the 1000-year
Reich or whatever the reformers are promising, it is necessary to take
control of economic activity and once that happens, human freedom
ends....

...What we have been witnessing in this country, then, is a slow but
steady erosion of individual freedom through the gradual
centralization of everything in Washington. This has not been achieved
by one big blow, like the Russian Revolution, but is the cumulative
effect of a thousand little movements, each intent on achieving its
own piece of "reform" by demanding that decision-making be centralized
in order to accomplish their agenda......"

"..Few are ready to recognize that the rise of fascism and naziism
was
not a reaction against the socialist trends of the preceding period
but a necessary outcome of those tendencies. This is a truth which
most people were unwilling to see even when the similarities of many
of the repellent features of the internal regimes in communist Russia
and National Socialist Germany were widely recognized. As a result,
many who think themselves infinitely superior to the aberrations of
naziism, and sincerely hate all its manifestations, work at the same
time for ideals whose realization would lead straight to the abhorred
tyranny....."

Frederick Hayek- Nobel prize winning Economist in his book "The Road
to Serfdom".

"..Basically National Socialism and Marxism are the same."

Friedrich A. Hayek
Nobel Laureate

And:

"..We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic
system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair
salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to
wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we
are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.."

Quoted by Toland, 1976, "Adolf Hitler" speech, p. 306

We have Republican, right-wing Fascism vs Democratic, left-wing
Socialism right now. However, the truth is that the modern Democratic
party really isn't all the far to the left, and really isn't very
socialist. So, what we really have is rising Fascism in the form of
the Republican party.

Fascism (pronounced /ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a radical and authoritarian nationalist
political ideology.[1][2][3][4] Fascists seek to organize a nation according
to corporatist perspectives, values, and systems, including the political
system and the economy.[5][6] Fascism was originally founded by Italian
national syndicalists in World War I who combined left-wing and right-wing
political views, but it gravitated to the political right in the early
1920s.[7][8] Scholars generally consider fascism to be on the far right of
the conventional left-right political spectrum.[9][10][11][12][13][14]

Fascists believe that a nation is an organic community that requires strong
leadership, singular collective identity, and the will and ability to commit
violence and wage war in order to keep the nation strong.[15] They claim
that culture is created by the collective national society and its state,
that cultural ideas are what give individuals identity, and thus they reject
individualism.[15] Viewing the nation as an integrated collective community,
they see pluralism as a dysfunctional aspect of society, and justify a
totalitarian state as a means to represent the nation in its
entirety.[16][17]

How does the republican party fit this description?

Pretty well, I think, except it leaves out the familar partnership
with religion. Here's a website showing Hitler's connection with
Christianity with photos:
http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm

"mg" wrote in message
...
On Sep 26, 11:20 am, "Jerry Okamura"
wrote:
"mg" wrote in message

...
On Sep 22, 6:00 am, "O'Donovan, PJ, Himself"
wrote:





Can the TeaParty reverse this tide of ever expanding government?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/4zEvleths264b10

Excerpts:

"...As Frederick Hayek and the great Austrian economists taught us,
socialism in all forms -- be it the "International Socialism" of the
Communists of the "National Socialism" of the Nazi Party -- is an
attempt to extend politics into the economic realm. In order to create
perfect equality or end class divisions or establish the 1000-year
Reich or whatever the reformers are promising, it is necessary to take
control of economic activity and once that happens, human freedom
ends....

...What we have been witnessing in this country, then, is a slow but
steady erosion of individual freedom through the gradual
centralization of everything in Washington. This has not been achieved
by one big blow, like the Russian Revolution, but is the cumulative
effect of a thousand little movements, each intent on achieving its
own piece of "reform" by demanding that decision-making be centralized
in order to accomplish their agenda......"

"..Few are ready to recognize that the rise of fascism and naziism
was
not a reaction against the socialist trends of the preceding period
but a necessary outcome of those tendencies. This is a truth which
most people were unwilling to see even when the similarities of many
of the repellent features of the internal regimes in communist Russia
and National Socialist Germany were widely recognized. As a result,
many who think themselves infinitely superior to the aberrations of
naziism, and sincerely hate all its manifestations, work at the same
time for ideals whose realization would lead straight to the abhorred
tyranny....."

Frederick Hayek- Nobel prize winning Economist in his book "The Road
to Serfdom".

"..Basically National Socialism and Marxism are the same."

Friedrich A. Hayek
Nobel Laureate

And:

"..We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic
system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair
salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to
wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we
are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.."

Quoted by Toland, 1976, "Adolf Hitler" speech, p. 306

We have Republican, right-wing Fascism vs Democratic, left-wing
Socialism right now. However, the truth is that the modern Democratic
party really isn't all the far to the left, and really isn't very
socialist. So, what we really have is rising Fascism in the form of
the Republican party.

Fascism (pronounced /ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a radical and authoritarian nationalist
political ideology.[1][2][3][4] Fascists seek to organize a nation
according
to corporatist perspectives, values, and systems, including the political
system and the economy.[5][6] Fascism was originally founded by Italian
national syndicalists in World War I who combined left-wing and right-wing
political views, but it gravitated to the political right in the early
1920s.[7][8] Scholars generally consider fascism to be on the far right of
the conventional left-right political spectrum.[9][10][11][12][13][14]

Fascists believe that a nation is an organic community that requires
strong
leadership, singular collective identity, and the will and ability to
commit
violence and wage war in order to keep the nation strong.[15] They claim
that culture is created by the collective national society and its state,
that cultural ideas are what give individuals identity, and thus they
reject
individualism.[15] Viewing the nation as an integrated collective
community,
they see pluralism as a dysfunctional aspect of society, and justify a
totalitarian state as a means to represent the nation in its
entirety.[16][17]

How does the republican party fit this description?

Pretty well, I think, except it leaves out the familar partnership
with religion. Here's a website showing Hitler's connection with
Christianity with photos:
http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm

Saying that, does not mean anything, unless you can provide specific
examples of where the republican party fits the description given....but you
already know that, don't you?

Can Social Security meet the promises it made to the citizens of this
country?

"GlennR" wrote in message
...
No, they could only make things worse by screwing themselves and everyone
else,
eliminating their own social security and medicare, raising state and
local taxes to pay for things the federal government
would no longer pay for, extend their chickenhawk,retard mentality to wars
against iran and n korea, let
the oil companies run the price of gas back up to $5 a gallon, let the
bankers and brokers go back to raping, robbing, and plundering,
and the medical insurance companies pay out 50 cents on every dollar taken
in while increasing the obscene wealth of the already obscenely
wealthy, including multi million dollar bonuses

this won't happen however, because the ignorant, stupid, fat ass, crying,
whining, retarded cocksuckers are destroying their own party
and running against themselves


all the democrats have to do is show these ugly,fat,loud mouth assholes on
tv,

nobody, even other fat ass, ignorant, stupid assholes will identify with
these mongrels





"Jerry Okamura" wrote in message
...
Yes.

"O'Donovan, PJ, Himself" wrote in message
...
Can the TeaParty reverse this tide of ever expanding government?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/4zEvleths264b10

Excerpts:

"...As Frederick Hayek and the great Austrian economists taught us,
socialism in all forms -- be it the "International Socialism" of the
Communists of the "National Socialism" of the Nazi Party -- is an
attempt to extend politics into the economic realm. In order to create
perfect equality or end class divisions or establish the 1000-year
Reich or whatever the reformers are promising, it is necessary to take
control of economic activity and once that happens, human freedom
ends....

...What we have been witnessing in this country, then, is a slow but
steady erosion of individual freedom through the gradual
centralization of everything in Washington. This has not been achieved
by one big blow, like the Russian Revolution, but is the cumulative
effect of a thousand little movements, each intent on achieving its
own piece of "reform" by demanding that decision-making be centralized
in order to accomplish their agenda......"

"..Few are ready to recognize that the rise of fascism and naziism
was
not a reaction against the socialist trends of the preceding period
but a necessary outcome of those tendencies. This is a truth which
most people were unwilling to see even when the similarities of many
of the repellent features of the internal regimes in communist Russia
and National Socialist Germany were widely recognized. As a result,
many who think themselves infinitely superior to the aberrations of
naziism, and sincerely hate all its manifestations, work at the same
time for ideals whose realization would lead straight to the abhorred
tyranny....."

Frederick Hayek- Nobel prize winning Economist in his book "The Road
to Serfdom".

"..Basically National Socialism and Marxism are the same."

Friedrich A. Hayek
Nobel Laureate


And:

"..We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic
system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair
salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to
wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we
are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.."

Quoted by Toland, 1976, "Adolf Hitler" speech, p. 306

absolutely

can you figure out how to do it fairly ?


"Jerry Okamura" wrote in message
...
Can Social Security meet the promises it made to the citizens of this
country?

"GlennR" wrote in message
...
No, they could only make things worse by screwing themselves and everyone
else,
eliminating their own social security and medicare, raising state and
local taxes to pay for things the federal government
would no longer pay for, extend their chickenhawk,retard mentality to
wars against iran and n korea, let
the oil companies run the price of gas back up to $5 a gallon, let the
bankers and brokers go back to raping, robbing, and plundering,
and the medical insurance companies pay out 50 cents on every dollar
taken in while increasing the obscene wealth of the already obscenely
wealthy, including multi million dollar bonuses

this won't happen however, because the ignorant, stupid, fat ass, crying,
whining, retarded cocksuckers are destroying their own party
and running against themselves


all the democrats have to do is show these ugly,fat,loud mouth assholes
on tv,

nobody, even other fat ass, ignorant, stupid assholes will identify with
these mongrels





"Jerry Okamura" wrote in message
...
Yes.

"O'Donovan, PJ, Himself" wrote in message
...
Can the TeaParty reverse this tide of ever expanding government?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/4zEvleths264b10

Excerpts:

"...As Frederick Hayek and the great Austrian economists taught us,
socialism in all forms -- be it the "International Socialism" of the
Communists of the "National Socialism" of the Nazi Party -- is an
attempt to extend politics into the economic realm. In order to create
perfect equality or end class divisions or establish the 1000-year
Reich or whatever the reformers are promising, it is necessary to take
control of economic activity and once that happens, human freedom
ends....

...What we have been witnessing in this country, then, is a slow but
steady erosion of individual freedom through the gradual
centralization of everything in Washington. This has not been achieved
by one big blow, like the Russian Revolution, but is the cumulative
effect of a thousand little movements, each intent on achieving its
own piece of "reform" by demanding that decision-making be centralized
in order to accomplish their agenda......"

"..Few are ready to recognize that the rise of fascism and naziism
was
not a reaction against the socialist trends of the preceding period
but a necessary outcome of those tendencies. This is a truth which
most people were unwilling to see even when the similarities of many
of the repellent features of the internal regimes in communist Russia
and National Socialist Germany were widely recognized. As a result,
many who think themselves infinitely superior to the aberrations of
naziism, and sincerely hate all its manifestations, work at the same
time for ideals whose realization would lead straight to the abhorred
tyranny....."

Frederick Hayek- Nobel prize winning Economist in his book "The Road
to Serfdom".

"..Basically National Socialism and Marxism are the same."

Friedrich A. Hayek
Nobel Laureate


And:

"..We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic
system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair
salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to
wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we
are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.."

Quoted by Toland, 1976, "Adolf Hitler" speech, p. 306

"GlennR" wrote in message
...
absolutely


How?

can you figure out how to do it fairly ?

To "do it fairly", you first have to be willing to admit it does not do it
"fairly" and you also have to define what the word "fair" means.


"Jerry Okamura" wrote in message
...
Can Social Security meet the promises it made to the citizens of this
country?

"GlennR" wrote in message
...
No, they could only make things worse by screwing themselves and
everyone else,
eliminating their own social security and medicare, raising state and
local taxes to pay for things the federal government
would no longer pay for, extend their chickenhawk,retard mentality to
wars against iran and n korea, let
the oil companies run the price of gas back up to $5 a gallon, let the
bankers and brokers go back to raping, robbing, and plundering,
and the medical insurance companies pay out 50 cents on every dollar
taken in while increasing the obscene wealth of the already obscenely
wealthy, including multi million dollar bonuses

this won't happen however, because the ignorant, stupid, fat ass,
crying, whining, retarded cocksuckers are destroying their own party
and running against themselves


all the democrats have to do is show these ugly,fat,loud mouth assholes
on tv,

nobody, even other fat ass, ignorant, stupid assholes will identify with
these mongrels





"Jerry Okamura" wrote in message
...
Yes.

"O'Donovan, PJ, Himself" wrote in message
...
Can the TeaParty reverse this tide of ever expanding government?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/4zEvleths264b10

Excerpts:

"...As Frederick Hayek and the great Austrian economists taught us,
socialism in all forms -- be it the "International Socialism" of the
Communists of the "National Socialism" of the Nazi Party -- is an
attempt to extend politics into the economic realm. In order to create
perfect equality or end class divisions or establish the 1000-year
Reich or whatever the reformers are promising, it is necessary to take
control of economic activity and once that happens, human freedom
ends....

...What we have been witnessing in this country, then, is a slow but
steady erosion of individual freedom through the gradual
centralization of everything in Washington. This has not been achieved
by one big blow, like the Russian Revolution, but is the cumulative
effect of a thousand little movements, each intent on achieving its
own piece of "reform" by demanding that decision-making be centralized
in order to accomplish their agenda......"

"..Few are ready to recognize that the rise of fascism and naziism
was
not a reaction against the socialist trends of the preceding period
but a necessary outcome of those tendencies. This is a truth which
most people were unwilling to see even when the similarities of many
of the repellent features of the internal regimes in communist Russia
and National Socialist Germany were widely recognized. As a result,
many who think themselves infinitely superior to the aberrations of
naziism, and sincerely hate all its manifestations, work at the same
time for ideals whose realization would lead straight to the abhorred
tyranny....."

Frederick Hayek- Nobel prize winning Economist in his book "The Road
to Serfdom".

"..Basically National Socialism and Marxism are the same."

Friedrich A. Hayek
Nobel Laureate


And:

"..We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic
system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair
salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to
wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we
are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions.."

Quoted by Toland, 1976, "Adolf Hitler" speech, p. 306