Just returned from cruise - don't get it...

Not everyone who needs the handicap accessible cabin needs it because of
mobility issues.

On Disney, Princess, and RCL my father qualifies for a handicapped cabin
because he is legally blind. Before everyone jumps all over me, let me explain
the specific reasons why.

Not only are the cabins larger, but they have alarm systems whereby the
occupants of the cabin can alert ship staff if they need emergency help. Also,
on Disney for example, he was told NOT to go to his muster station in case of
emergency, but to go back to his cabin. A staff member was assigned to come
and get him and take him to a safe place. This system makes a lot of sense
because, in case of emergency, the LAST thing you want is an elderly blind man
who wears hearing aids in both ears trying to find his way around a cruise ship
full of scared people.

Additionally, the handicapped cabins tend to be less cluttered, making it much
easier for him to maneuver around.

Remember folks, not all disabilities are clearly visible.

Susan in Maine

Not everyone who needs the handicap accessible cabin needs it because of
mobility issues.

On Disney, Princess, and RCL my father qualifies for a handicapped cabin
because he is legally blind. Before everyone jumps all over me, let me explain
the specific reasons why.

Not only are the cabins larger, but they have alarm systems whereby the
occupants of the cabin can alert ship staff if they need emergency help. Also,
on Disney for example, he was told NOT to go to his muster station in case of
emergency, but to go back to his cabin. A staff member was assigned to come
and get him and take him to a safe place. This system makes a lot of sense
because, in case of emergency, the LAST thing you want is an elderly blind man
who wears hearing aids in both ears trying to find his way around a cruise ship
full of scared people.

Additionally, the handicapped cabins tend to be less cluttered, making it much
easier for him to maneuver around.

Remember folks, not all disabilities are clearly visible.

Susan in Maine

Not everyone who needs the handicap accessible cabin needs it because of
mobility issues.

On Disney, Princess, and RCL my father qualifies for a handicapped cabin
because he is legally blind. Before everyone jumps all over me, let me explain
the specific reasons why.

Not only are the cabins larger, but they have alarm systems whereby the
occupants of the cabin can alert ship staff if they need emergency help. Also,
on Disney for example, he was told NOT to go to his muster station in case of
emergency, but to go back to his cabin. A staff member was assigned to come
and get him and take him to a safe place. This system makes a lot of sense
because, in case of emergency, the LAST thing you want is an elderly blind man
who wears hearing aids in both ears trying to find his way around a cruise ship
full of scared people.

Additionally, the handicapped cabins tend to be less cluttered, making it much
easier for him to maneuver around.

Remember folks, not all disabilities are clearly visible.

Susan in Maine

(SPotter614) wrote:

Not everyone who needs the handicap accessible cabin needs it because of
mobility issues.

Some HAL cabins have a variety of items which are appropriate for people with
disabilities who are not in wheelchairs. I don't know whether or not they have
alarms by the bed or in the bathroom, but it sounds like a good idea to me.
And if they are not designed well enough for the blind, then they ought to
remodel some cabins so that they ARE, and still have the wheelchair-accessible
cabins set aside first and foremost for people who need wheelchairs and
scooters.

The population is continuing to age AFAIK, and that means that the median age
of cruisers will be older (even after attracting younger passengers to
cruising).
Many of these cruisers will be fit and active, and there will be an increasing
number of special needs cruisers. Maybe the lines need more and
differently-outfitted cabins that will accomodate these passengers.

(SPotter614) wrote:

Not everyone who needs the handicap accessible cabin needs it because of
mobility issues.

Some HAL cabins have a variety of items which are appropriate for people with
disabilities who are not in wheelchairs. I don't know whether or not they have
alarms by the bed or in the bathroom, but it sounds like a good idea to me.
And if they are not designed well enough for the blind, then they ought to
remodel some cabins so that they ARE, and still have the wheelchair-accessible
cabins set aside first and foremost for people who need wheelchairs and
scooters.

The population is continuing to age AFAIK, and that means that the median age
of cruisers will be older (even after attracting younger passengers to
cruising).
Many of these cruisers will be fit and active, and there will be an increasing
number of special needs cruisers. Maybe the lines need more and
differently-outfitted cabins that will accomodate these passengers.

"E.k.R." wrote in message
.. .

I might add that smoking on Oceania is prohibited in ALL staterooms and on
ALL balconies, as well as all dining areas. There are some designated
smoking areas, so I might be incorrect in stating that smoking is
permitted
on *all* the open decks. There might be only certain areas of the deck
where one can smoke.

Ernie, just how are they going to enforce no smoking in cabins and on
balconies? The Paradise had very strict measures about no smoking and I'm
curious how Oceania will handle this.

--Jean

"E.k.R." wrote in message
.. .

I might add that smoking on Oceania is prohibited in ALL staterooms and on
ALL balconies, as well as all dining areas. There are some designated
smoking areas, so I might be incorrect in stating that smoking is
permitted
on *all* the open decks. There might be only certain areas of the deck
where one can smoke.

Ernie, just how are they going to enforce no smoking in cabins and on
balconies? The Paradise had very strict measures about no smoking and I'm
curious how Oceania will handle this.

--Jean

"Jean O'Boyle" wrote in message newsYYOc.525
Ernie, just how are they going to enforce no smoking in cabins and on
balconies? The Paradise had very strict measures about no smoking and I'm
curious how Oceania will handle this.

--Jean




Jean,
I think it will be very difficult to enforce. Basically it will be up to
the cabin steward to detect if anyone has been smoking, or neighbors who
might complain if they smell smoke on the next balcony. Other then that,
short of making the entire ship non-smoking it is difficult at best enforce
smoking rules.

Ernie

"StephenM" wrote in message
newsmoLc.71006$Mr4.11912@pd7tw1no...

Out of a dozen or so cruises (Carnival - Spirit only, Princess, HAL, Ren),
Ren was by far my favorite line.

Small ships (that looked like ships both inside and out - no shopping
malls,
no drug induced bizarre decorating), no smoking (unless you went to the
top
deck at night and they always set-up tables, chairs and umbrellas at the
end
of the gangway for smokers whenever they were in port), no children, no
formal nights (always smart casual), anytime dinning, they even tried to
by-pass TA's - what an innovative cruise line.

I sailed with them on both the eastern and western med, and would sail
with
them in preference to any other line - so obviously they go belly-up. I
hope we see their likes again - down with the mega-mall cruise lines
(sorry
got carried away by the great memories).

In mourning
Stephen

Me, too, Stephan...I loved the Ren 7...Took it to the Eastern Mediterranean
and she and the old Pacific Princess, (The Loveboat) tie for the best
cruises that we have taken.

--Jean

"StephenM" wrote in message
newsmoLc.71006$Mr4.11912@pd7tw1no...

Out of a dozen or so cruises (Carnival - Spirit only, Princess, HAL, Ren),
Ren was by far my favorite line.

Small ships (that looked like ships both inside and out - no shopping
malls,
no drug induced bizarre decorating), no smoking (unless you went to the
top
deck at night and they always set-up tables, chairs and umbrellas at the
end
of the gangway for smokers whenever they were in port), no children, no
formal nights (always smart casual), anytime dinning, they even tried to
by-pass TA's - what an innovative cruise line.

I sailed with them on both the eastern and western med, and would sail
with
them in preference to any other line - so obviously they go belly-up. I
hope we see their likes again - down with the mega-mall cruise lines
(sorry
got carried away by the great memories).

In mourning
Stephen

Me, too, Stephan...I loved the Ren 7...Took it to the Eastern Mediterranean
and she and the old Pacific Princess, (The Loveboat) tie for the best
cruises that we have taken.

--Jean