Just returned from cruise - don't get it...

RTCReferee wrote:

Sue and Kevin Mullen wrote:


Nice sentiment but you would have to file suit for any compensation.
Most times there is no justice for the actions of rude/clueless folk.

I agree with you Charles! Nice sentiment, but not worth the effort.


Oops, sorry. I must have misunderstood. I thought you said that you had to
spend an extra three days IN A HOSPITAL due specifically to the smoke.

Did I misread that?

I did have to spend extra days in the hospital and it was because the
smoke irritated my airways.

sue

"Jean O'Boyle" wrote in message
. ..

"E.k.R." wrote in message
...
Jean,
I think it will be very difficult to enforce. Basically it will be up
to
the cabin steward to detect if anyone has been smoking, or neighbors who
might complain if they smell smoke on the next balcony. Other then
that,
short of making the entire ship non-smoking it is difficult at best
enforce
smoking rules.

Ernie,
Perhaps alarms that would go off notifying the proper authorities if
someone
lights a cigarette or cigar in their cabin would be a wiser way to do
it..I
do not think it would be fair of Oceania to expect its passengers to
inform
on each other...not my idea of a pleasant and relaxing cruise and
vacation...



Make it a $100 cabin credit on anyone you turn in (who was actually smoking,
not just for a fake claim) and people will do it.

--Tom

"Jean O'Boyle" wrote in message
. ..

"E.k.R." wrote in message
...
Jean,
I think it will be very difficult to enforce. Basically it will be up
to
the cabin steward to detect if anyone has been smoking, or neighbors who
might complain if they smell smoke on the next balcony. Other then
that,
short of making the entire ship non-smoking it is difficult at best
enforce
smoking rules.

Ernie,
Perhaps alarms that would go off notifying the proper authorities if
someone
lights a cigarette or cigar in their cabin would be a wiser way to do
it..I
do not think it would be fair of Oceania to expect its passengers to
inform
on each other...not my idea of a pleasant and relaxing cruise and
vacation...



Make it a $100 cabin credit on anyone you turn in (who was actually smoking,
not just for a fake claim) and people will do it.

--Tom

"Tom & Linda" wrote in message news:WFfPc.21537
Make it a $100 cabin credit on anyone you turn in (who was actually
smoking,
not just for a fake claim) and people will do it.

--Tom


That would be a very enticing incentive! I bet it would work.

Ernie

"E.k.R." wrote in message
...

"Tom & Linda" wrote in message news:WFfPc.21537
Make it a $100 cabin credit on anyone you turn in (who was actually
smoking,
not just for a fake claim) and people will do it.

--Tom


That would be a very enticing incentive! I bet it would work.

Ernie

That would make it feel as if we were living in a communist state...Yuck!
Think it best for the cruise line to find a way of enforcing its wishes
instead of turning people into informers..
--Jean

"E.k.R." wrote in message
...

"Tom & Linda" wrote in message news:WFfPc.21537
Make it a $100 cabin credit on anyone you turn in (who was actually
smoking,
not just for a fake claim) and people will do it.

--Tom


That would be a very enticing incentive! I bet it would work.

Ernie

That would make it feel as if we were living in a communist state...Yuck!
Think it best for the cruise line to find a way of enforcing its wishes
instead of turning people into informers..
--Jean

Jean O'Boyle" wrote:

"E.k.R." wrote in message
.. .

"Tom & Linda" wrote in message news:WFfPc.21537
Make it a $100 cabin credit on anyone you turn in (who was actually
smoking,
not just for a fake claim) and people will do it.

--Tom


That would be a very enticing incentive! I bet it would work.

Ernie

That would make it feel as if we were living in a communist state...Yuck!

What has communism to do with it? You don't think your Texas police ever pay
informers? (not only Texas police, but including them)

I'm not keen on paid informers on cruise ships, but a communist idea? Hardly!


Think it best for the cruise line to find a way of enforcing its wishes
instead of turning people into informers..

I don't mind if people inform on violators (who know the policy and violate it
by choice) , but I don't want cruisers to be paid to do so. One of these days
I'm going to take a CPR course and if anyone needs to be revived, I don't want
to be paid for that, either.

The cruise line did not arrive at this policy without considering the wishes of
its clients. So in enforcing "its wishes" (as you put it), the cruise line is
enforcing the wishes of its clients.

Jean O'Boyle" wrote:

"E.k.R." wrote in message
.. .

"Tom & Linda" wrote in message news:WFfPc.21537
Make it a $100 cabin credit on anyone you turn in (who was actually
smoking,
not just for a fake claim) and people will do it.

--Tom


That would be a very enticing incentive! I bet it would work.

Ernie

That would make it feel as if we were living in a communist state...Yuck!

What has communism to do with it? You don't think your Texas police ever pay
informers? (not only Texas police, but including them)

I'm not keen on paid informers on cruise ships, but a communist idea? Hardly!


Think it best for the cruise line to find a way of enforcing its wishes
instead of turning people into informers..

I don't mind if people inform on violators (who know the policy and violate it
by choice) , but I don't want cruisers to be paid to do so. One of these days
I'm going to take a CPR course and if anyone needs to be revived, I don't want
to be paid for that, either.

The cruise line did not arrive at this policy without considering the wishes of
its clients. So in enforcing "its wishes" (as you put it), the cruise line is
enforcing the wishes of its clients.

"RTCReferee" wrote in message
news:20040802000443.12159.00002765@mb-incentive! I What has communism to
do with it? I'm not keen on paid informers on cruise ships, but a
communist idea? Hardly!

What I meant by communist state or tactics; In communist countries such as
China and once Russia, people informed on each other out of fear..

While on a ship, it would not be done out of fear, but there is the
unpleasantness of reporting others and acting as an informant,...I do not
find that as a very pleasant thing to be doing, especially while enjoying a
cruise..
I am not a smoker and cannot tolerate smoking due to allergies and sinus
trouble...but I think if a cruiseline says that there is to be no smoking in
the cabins, it is THEIR job to see that appropriate measures are set up to
prevent it from happening..

The cruise line did not arrive at this policy without considering the
wishes of
its clients. So in enforcing "its wishes" (as you put it), the cruise
line is
enforcing the wishes of its clients.

Ref, as I said above, the cruise line should enforce its own rules and not
expect the passengers who have taken it for those very reasons, to do
it...If they are willing to put out the money to do it properly, there
should be no problem...Carnival Paradise was able to do it..

--Jean

"RTCReferee" wrote in message
news:20040802000443.12159.00002765@mb-incentive! I What has communism to
do with it? I'm not keen on paid informers on cruise ships, but a
communist idea? Hardly!

What I meant by communist state or tactics; In communist countries such as
China and once Russia, people informed on each other out of fear..

While on a ship, it would not be done out of fear, but there is the
unpleasantness of reporting others and acting as an informant,...I do not
find that as a very pleasant thing to be doing, especially while enjoying a
cruise..
I am not a smoker and cannot tolerate smoking due to allergies and sinus
trouble...but I think if a cruiseline says that there is to be no smoking in
the cabins, it is THEIR job to see that appropriate measures are set up to
prevent it from happening..

The cruise line did not arrive at this policy without considering the
wishes of
its clients. So in enforcing "its wishes" (as you put it), the cruise
line is
enforcing the wishes of its clients.

Ref, as I said above, the cruise line should enforce its own rules and not
expect the passengers who have taken it for those very reasons, to do
it...If they are willing to put out the money to do it properly, there
should be no problem...Carnival Paradise was able to do it..

--Jean