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Maxwell Edison wrote:
It is not "extremely dangerous" and is perfectly legal Hitchhiking is also illegal in many places as "soliciting rides," i.e., prostitution. |
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In article , Nile
wrote: Maxwell Edison wrote: It is not "extremely dangerous" and is perfectly legal Hitchhiking is also illegal in many places as "soliciting rides," i.e., prostitution. According to http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d11/vc21957.htm, California Vehicle Code 21957: "No person shall stand in a roadway for the purpose of soliciting a ride from the driver of any vehicle." Sure sounds to me like hitchhiking is illegal in California. -Lynne |
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Outlawpoet wrote: Writing from Southern California here - do not hitchhike. It's seriously dangerous here - especially in certain areas. I don't mean to scare her - and this is from someone who loves to live here - but it seems like every week or so another woman is killed or missing. There probably aren't as many as it seems, but as a native Los Angelena, I'm careful who I speak to when I'm out and about. It's not safe in Canada either. I'm speaking as someone who was almost not found again alive because I decided to hitchhike. The guy who picked me up preyed on hitchhikers, and I was lucky enough to live to tell the tale. He also didn't care if there was more than one woman in the group. Two girls broke bones jumping from his car on the freeway when they realized they were not going to where they thought he was taking them. Women can be dangerous too. Some might to pick up a group because they are afraid they are outnumbered. Even travelling with others, we wouldn't pick up hitchhikers, men or women. Women carry weapons and commit robbery too. S. |
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On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 20:12:04 -0500, Lynne Jeffers
wrote: In article , Nile wrote: Maxwell Edison wrote: It is not "extremely dangerous" and is perfectly legal Hitchhiking is also illegal in many places as "soliciting rides," i.e., prostitution. According to http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d11/vc21957.htm, California Vehicle Code 21957: "No person shall stand in a roadway for the purpose of soliciting a ride from the driver of any vehicle." Sure sounds to me like hitchhiking is illegal in California. When I was young I hitchhiked a lot but I never stood in the roadway; that's a good way to get run down. ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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Maxwell Edison wrote: In article .com, Iceman at says... ROD wrote: My little sis is travelling to American in a few weeks with her mates and they are doing it on the cheap. Mostly California. Mostly hostels. Maybe hitchhiking (sounds a bit dodgy). Maybe backpacking. Eating cheaply. I want to ensure she is safe and is careful. Apart from going with her, anyone have tips for me to share. She won't listen but I can plant a seed of some sort. All of that is perfectly fine except for the hitchhiking, which she should not even consider, period. It just isn't done in the US, so 99% of normal people would be afraid to pick up a hitchhiker, and you take your chances with the people who would. People hitchhike all the time in northern California. If you are in a group of three or four it is relatively safe. Two young women is less safe and more than four will not get rides due to lack of room. Advise your sister to check the condition of the driver. If you smell alcohol, say "no thanks." Sorry, 1 or 2 girls hitchhiking is a BAD idea, ESPECIALLY if they are visitors who don't understand all the quirks of the culture. Girls hitchhiking is a no-go as far as I'm concerned... When I was younger I hitchhiked all over California. It is a great way to meet people. And your chance of meeting druggies, rapists, and serial murderers goes up exponentially - the type of people you least want to meet are the most attracted by the most vunerable of hitchhikers, which are young, foreign, female tourists. I rarely pick up hitchhikers any more, but driving from Crescent City to Eureka a few years pack, two guys hitchhiking were holding a sign that simply said "Aussies". I picked them up and they spent the night at my house. We had a great time. The "Aussies" sign was just the ticket to let me know they were international travelers. Making a decision as a grown male to pick up hitchhikers yourself is one thing - encouraging young females to hitchhike is another one. The trouble with hitchhiking is the interminable waits sometimes as Americans are afraid of strangers. And with good reason. Most sensible adult males do NOT want to pick up young females, especially if they are older and/or married. In this PC-crazed society where "he-said, she-said" disputes are typically resolved by giving the female the benefit of the doubt, you subject yourself to accusations of sexual assault, solicitation for prostitution, and set yourself up for blackmail/theft. I don't pick up women traveling alone in my car, and I don't even like women riding with me unless I know them well enough to know they aren't kooks or wackjobs. Best for young women to use public transportion, or rent their own vehicles. |
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On 8/15/2006 1:05 PM ROD wrote:
My little sis is travelling to American in a few weeks with her mates and they are doing it on the cheap. Mostly California. Mostly hostels. Maybe hitchhiking (sounds a bit dodgy). Maybe backpacking. Eating cheaply. I want to ensure she is safe and is careful. Apart from going with her, anyone have tips for me to share. She won't listen but I can plant a seed of some sort. Cheers, ROD I agree with everyone. No Hitchhiking. There is a television program on many of our PBS (Public Broadcasting System). It's mainly geared for the backpacker and outdoor adventure traveler. It's called "Globe Trekker". They have a web site which features information about the shows. It also features a destination guide...tips on hostels and inexpensive places to stay, eat and get around. I am including the link of the destination guide for North America. While it isn't exhaustive, your sister may find the info useful. http://www.pilotguides.com/destinati...north_america/ -- ________ To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!" View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 |
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Iceman wrote:
ROD wrote: My little sis is travelling to American in a few weeks with her mates and they are doing it on the cheap. Mostly California. Mostly hostels. Maybe hitchhiking (sounds a bit dodgy). Maybe backpacking. Eating cheaply. I want to ensure she is safe and is careful. Apart from going with her, anyone have tips for me to share. She won't listen but I can plant a seed of some sort. All of that is perfectly fine except for the hitchhiking, which she should not even consider, period. It just isn't done in the US, so 99% of normal people would be afraid to pick up a hitchhiker, and you take your chances with the people who would. Many hostels are part of a bus route... I remember HI hostels were, and imagine others are too. They are aimed squarely at back-packer-type travellers, are not like greyhound, and tend to hop from hostel to hostel. Maybe if you get onto a few of the hostels she is planning to stay at, they can give details. -- ant |
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ROD wrote:
California. Mostly hostels. Maybe hitchhiking (sounds a bit dodgy). Maybe backpacking. Eating cheaply. I want to ensure she is safe and is careful. Apart from going with her, anyone have tips for me to share. She won't listen but I can plant a seed of some sort. Eating inexpensively and well is easy if one doesn't patronize chains and/or franchises and is careful to maintain a healthful and nutritious diet. A money saver, for example, is buying the morning juice at a grocery store for $1.50 a pint rather than pay $2 for four ounces at a restaurant. The bonus is being able reĆ¼se the bottle if she is one of those water-carrying types. Hitch-hiking is the best of all ways to travel; I cannot recommend it highly enough. I always pick up hitch-hikers as I have a cosmic debt to pay. Iceman wrote: All of [the original post] is perfectly fine except for the hitchhiking, which she should not even consider, period. It just isn't done in the US, Bull****! so 99% of normal people would be afraid to pick up a hitchhiker, Perhaps. So, what? The rest of us are enough to have a nice trip. and you take your chances with the people who would. Just as you do everywhere else in every aspect of life. PTravel wrote: This is not the U.S. of the 60s and 70s . True. Reportage, so-called "journalism", is more inflammatory and less accurate. PeterL wrote: Don't hitchhike. It's very dodgy, esp. in California. Keith Willshaw wrote: NO HITCHIKING Gregory Morrow wrote: DO NOT HITCHIKE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. This is a sure way to place oneself in danger, So is crossing a street, going into a bar, etc., not necessarily ESPECIALLY FOR FEMALES. Additionally, most all municipalities ban hitchhiking, she'll get in trouble with the law if she attempts this. In spite of being illegal in most places in the USA, one does not get into trouble. I've always welcomed police checking on me while aside the road. The most serious threat I've ever gotten from police was "We'll bust you if you're here in the morning". I wasn't. If she wants to ensure that she returns to Oz in a coffin (or even ensure that she permanently disappears) then hitchhiking is the SURE way to go... Utter nonsense! The probability is that she'll meet nice people who'll treat her respectfully and well. Yes, the negative possibilities are numerable but extremely unlikely. Here's the real "safety" answer: lilirishstar said: "As one man told me as I instinctively pulled my son close to me as we walked by 'Hey man, we aren't going hurt you, we are just homeless'" Otherwise your question is unanswerable because an Earthquake could happen at any instant. Fires happen. Cyclones, floods, tornadoes, tsunami, hurricanes. Bad guys might be at the corner. If they're not involved with someone else, they might want to get involved with you. You could be mistakenly arrested and charged with a serious crime. Traffic lights get out of order. People ignore STOP signs and lights. Safety isn't anywhere. Danger is everywhere. What scares you might differ from what scares me. Statistics indicate that your bathroom is the most dangerous place you can be. Better watch out! -- __________________________________________________ ______________ A San Franciscan who's visited 49 of 50 US states. http://geocities.com/dancefest/ --- http://geocities.com/iconoc/ ICQ: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/19098103 ------- IClast at Gmail com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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