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Don't set sail on a cruise without doing some research first
" Thus spake "John Sisker" : snip Leaving from Houston, our ship was loaded with Texans. Right up front we should tell you we do not automatically dislike Texans or anyone else from the South. One of us even descends from Texan stock. However, given they were easily the largest population on our ship, there were a lot of behaviors that began to repeat themselves, most notably a propensity for loud, drunken behavior and a whole lot of smoking. Indeed, by the third day of the cruise, we were told by more experienced passengers that our sailing was known as the "Redneck Cruise" because this kind of thing happened every time. BALONEY! We have been on several cruises from Houston/Galveston and never encountered such behavior. If anything, the Texans were a friendly and fun bunch group to be around..That sort of thing does not happen EVERYTIME as you quote. Not a problem for a college spring break excursion, perhaps, but not the best environment for a honeymoon. Robertson cautions it's not always possible to predict a cruise population's behavior based solely on its port of debarkation. Perhaps they needed a better informed T/A who would have known better about what to recommend for a honeymoon. Shame on you for passing on biased information...you apparently have never been out of Texas on a cruise either..or you wouldn't be painting with such a wide brush. "If you are looking for a cruise out of whatever destination, if it's on spring break in Texas, you know it's loaded with Texans." ' snip Wow! What an intelligent deduction! You can say that about any port in the country where there's spring break. Most ships have a non smoking side of the pool. A little checking and a little assertivness would have helped that problem. That is true of any ship that you might take. Some enforce rules on smoking, non-smoking and chair saving; some do not... It seems that you are competing with a several other T/As on rtc who are far more informed and experienced than you are, but you continue to post anything that you can get your hands on, a contest for trying to be first, be it true or not. Much of your information is old, outdated or not newsworthy..Your advice is far fetched and filled with untruths and experienced cruisers can see right through it...If you had come here without that attitude, you would have been received more graciously.. but like I said before, you are trying too hard and it is irritating. --Jean---an adopted Texan formerly from PA and proud of it! ;-) |
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Don't set sail on a cruise without doing some research first
Some of you are still trying to kill the messenger simply because you don't
like the message. Turing you vengeance in the wrong direction is not addressing the issue brought up by the original author. And indeed, it probably is a good idea to get written permission, quote the original author and include a copyright mark and disclaimer for these type articles. I'm sure Goldenberg would love to do that. Likewise, isn't pointing out alleged fallacies and bias without facts to back it up, just opinions? As for being consistently wrong as some like to point out, again that is entirely subjective and mostly differing opinions. However, the solution is very simple. No one has to book through me. If some want to point out any alleged errors in my so-called facts, so others will have the correct information to act upon, that is just fine with me. I am always open to learning more, provided we are indeed talking facts here and not just more personal opinions. However, there is also a big difference between suggestions and opinionated rebuttals. Yet, like you, I do have a right to post here, for as already pointed out, this is an open, unmonitored newsgroup. Let's let the original posters decide for themselves. |
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Don't set sail on a cruise without doing some research first
John Sisker wrote: I am always open to learning more, provided we are indeed talking facts here and not just more personal opinions. However, there is also a big difference between suggestions and opinionated rebuttals. Unfortunately John, you dismiss as "opinion" the real experience that many of us have gained from **decades** of sailing **dozens** of cruises on practically every ocean and itinerary. When I and others post our "rebuttals" it's not merely conjecture - we've been there, done that. Looking at the names who have been "talking facts" in response to your many uniformed posts, it is safe to say that collectively (and in some cases individually), we provide far more accurate facts and information whether you provide it directly or by posting what other unknown entities have written. Warren |
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Don't set sail on a cruise without doing some research first
As for personal opinions vs. actual experience, some seem to indicate that
with only 12 cruises under my belt, vs. others with 20 to 30, they obviously know a lot more of what they're talking about. Yet, even though currently working on our 13th cruise, there will always be someone who has been on more cruise than someone else. Doe that mean the person who has the most numbers wins? However, our numbers also include booking far more clients on cruises than anyone could have possibly been on personally. So we're not simply on the outside looking in. And besides, what do numbers have to do with it? I've owned many cars in my time, driven even more. Yet, that certainly does not make me an expert mechanic. Now, don't get me wrong, I do welcome and appreciate the real experience others have gained from decades of sailing. The only problem that I can see now and then, is how they choose to present it. Does it indeed comes from the heart as helpful recommendations, or a form of ignorance and a know-it-all attitude? That comes through loud and clear as the latter on this newsgroup. John "Warren" wrote in message oups.com... John Sisker wrote: I am always open to learning more, provided we are indeed talking facts here and not just more personal opinions. However, there is also a big difference between suggestions and opinionated rebuttals. Unfortunately John, you dismiss as "opinion" the real experience that many of us have gained from **decades** of sailing **dozens** of cruises on practically every ocean and itinerary. When I and others post our "rebuttals" it's not merely conjecture - we've been there, done that. Looking at the names who have been "talking facts" in response to your many uniformed posts, it is safe to say that collectively (and in some cases individually), we provide far more accurate facts and information whether you provide it directly or by posting what other unknown entities have written. Warren |
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Don't set sail on a cruise without doing some research first
"John Sisker" wrote in message ink.net... As for being consistently wrong as some like to point out, again that is entirely subjective and mostly differing opinions. However, the solution is very simple. No one has to book through me. If some want to point out any alleged errors in my so-called facts, so others will have the correct information to act upon, that is just fine with me. I am always open to learning more, provided we are indeed talking facts here and not just more personal opinions. However, there is also a big difference between suggestions and opinionated rebuttals. Yet, like you, I do have a right to post here, for as already pointed out, this is an open, unmonitored newsgroup. Let's let the original posters decide for themselves. John, One of your biggest faults is that whenever you post something erroneous here and it is pointed out to you by another T/A or experienced cruiser, you NEVER admit you were wrong or mistaken...It just goes over your head like water sliding off a duck's back! It's as if it is falling on deaf ears and you believe that you are never wrong...Surely from the many posts that have been directed to your attention, you must have gotten the message by now...they can't ALL be wrong! --Jean .. |
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Don't set sail on a cruise without doing some research first
"Jean O'Boyle" wrote:
"John Sisker" wrote in message link.net... As for being consistently wrong as some like to point out, again that is entirely subjective and mostly differing opinions. However, the solution is very simple. No one has to book through me. If some want to point out any alleged errors in my so-called facts, so others will have the correct information to act upon, that is just fine with me. I am always open to The people who are pointing out errors are not the ones who are booking with you. learning more, provided we are indeed talking facts here and not just more personal opinions. However, there is also a big difference between suggestions and opinionated rebuttals. Yet, like you, I do have a right to post here, for as already pointed out, this is an open, unmonitored newsgroup. Let's let the original posters decide for themselves. John, One of your biggest faults is that whenever you post something erroneous here and it is pointed out to you by another T/A or experienced cruiser, you NEVER admit you were wrong or mistaken...It just goes over your head like water sliding off a duck's back! It's as if it is falling on deaf ears and you believe that you are never wrong...Surely from the many posts that have been directed to your attention, you must have gotten the message by now...they can't ALL be wrong! Don't confuse him with facts. grandma Rosalie |
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Don't set sail on a cruise without doing some research first
It's been pointed out on a number of occasions by some that I am apparently
wrong more than I am right. However, while indeed I may be wrong on occasion, I also found many others are as well. I certainly can't be wrong all the time, as some imply. Yet, some differences are simply a matter of differing opinions, and not much more. I will certainly acknowledge when I do have incorrect information, but it does appear that may not actually be the goal of some. And that may simply be to undermine my creditability, so business will be directed elsewhere. John |
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Don't set sail on a cruise without doing some research first
John Sisker wrote:
It's been pointed out on a number of occasions by some that I am apparently wrong more than I am right. John John, I too am more often wrong than right. Look at it this way, if we were right all the time, we'd get used to it and it would bring us less happiness. By being wrong most of the time, the occasional times we are right is a reason for great happiness and gloating. Nonnymus |
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