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  #11  
Old January 14th, 2004, 03:42 PM
Evelyn C. Leeper
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Mark Hewitt wrote:

"Icono Clast" wrote in message
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"Jim Davis Sr." wrote:


I don't understand why people burden themselves on the long walks to
and from the gangways and then trouble their fellow passengers by
blocking an aisle. I just don't get it. When they're a bit early have
have to go to the toilet, they ask strangers to "watch my bag" not
knowing whether that stranger is going to disappear with it. I just
don't get it.



Because quite often I've had to wait in excess of 40 minutes after the plane
has landed, before my bag actually shows up. If I could get away with just
hang baggage when I go on a flight. I would do that!


Or because twice the airlines have failed to send my luggage on the same
flight as me.

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Old January 14th, 2004, 06:01 PM
Menachem Mavet
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"Jim Davis Sr." wrote in message m...
Here's a question for discussion;
What's your opinion on carry-ons.
I travel for business, and check my tools & suitcase. I carry on my
Computer Case. I can't believe the amount of things that people try to
stuff into the overheads. If I put my case under the seat, I have to sit
with my legs in my chest. It goes up. I'll move it in an unusual
circumstance, but not for the half dozen people toting 2 or 3 fairly large
bags. And no matter what people think, the Airlines DON'T enforce the 1 bag
rule.


Ah, yes, one of my pet peeves about modern air travel in the
deregulated era. If I can't fit my stuff into a soft-sided bag that
meets the official carry-on dimensions, my luggage gets checked. I
only carry aboard a fabric attache case or daypack (depending whether
I'm travelling on business or pleasure.) I do like to have some
reading material and audio playback device (and food, too) to amuse
myself during the flight.

My real pet peeve regarding luggage are those damn cases on rollers,
esepcially the ones in the smaller sizes. I can understand someone
needing rollers for a large case (which should be checked baggage,
anyway), but I see people dragging along attache-sized cases and
daypacks on rollers, which impede foot traffic more than someone just
carrying the case. No the mention the fact that cases with rollers
are bulkier and take up more space in the over head bin than
soft-sided cases, and you can't squish them to cram more stuff in.
What the hell are people carrying in those cases anyway that they need
rollers? Lead bricks? No wonder people are so out of shape these
days. They don't even want to carry briefcases!

(Of course, I'm one to talk, I'll be boarding an Amtrak coach carrying
a duffle bag, a daypack, and a pair of skis. But at least on a train,
there's a little more room in the aisles and in the overhead racks
than the typical coach cabin in a plane , and, in my defense, trains
on the Washington-Boston line don't have checked baggage service.

But, still, I don't see why people want to haul large bags around a
transportation terminal when they can dump them right at the door, and
pick them up right before they leave when they get to their
destination. So what if takes 40 minutes to retrieve the bag? The
person just flew across the continent in half a day, they should be
grateful they didn't have to go by wagon train and take 6 months
complete with risks of starvation and Indian attacks. If they're that
much in a hurry, they should either travel light or ship their stuff
sperately. End of rant.)
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Old January 14th, 2004, 06:21 PM
Banty
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In article , Evelyn C. Leeper
says...

Mark Hewitt wrote:

"Icono Clast" wrote in message
om...

"Jim Davis Sr." wrote:


I don't understand why people burden themselves on the long walks to
and from the gangways and then trouble their fellow passengers by
blocking an aisle. I just don't get it. When they're a bit early have
have to go to the toilet, they ask strangers to "watch my bag" not
knowing whether that stranger is going to disappear with it. I just
don't get it.



Because quite often I've had to wait in excess of 40 minutes after the plane
has landed, before my bag actually shows up. If I could get away with just
hang baggage when I go on a flight. I would do that!


If you're on a business trip and the time is critical - then pack lighter. Wear
clothing passable for your business in case there is a problem. If you're
moving or have acquired some largish items, ship stuff. If you're travelling on
pleasure, the first step to pleasure would be to learn how to relax and stop
counting minutes at the baggage carousel.


Or because twice the airlines have failed to send my luggage on the same
flight as me.


Twice out of how many flights? And did they or did they not get the bags to you
within a day?

I mean, good grief. These complaints are just control-phreaky "I demand a
glitch-free life and I wanna be first" stuff. The large number of
self-appointed carry-on exceptions (and the resultant scrable for overhead,
underfoot, and garment bag space) *is* impacting other pax. PDA's, music
players, and cameras fit in largish purses and soft briefcases (for the latter,
with laptop). Medicine and magazines too. One more of carry-on size handles a
weekend's worth of stuff (say - how 'bout packing one of those such that you're
covered for a baggage-loading disaster and checking the rest!).

Bamtu

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Old January 14th, 2004, 06:32 PM
Jim Anderson
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"Menachem Mavet" wrote in message
om...
"Jim Davis Sr." wrote in message

m...
Here's a question for discussion;
What's your opinion on carry-ons.
I travel for business, and check my tools & suitcase. I carry on my
Computer Case. I can't believe the amount of things that people try to
stuff into the overheads. If I put my case under the seat, I have to

sit
with my legs in my chest. It goes up. I'll move it in an unusual
circumstance, but not for the half dozen people toting 2 or 3 fairly

large
bags. And no matter what people think, the Airlines DON'T enforce the 1

bag
rule.


But, still, I don't see why people want to haul large bags around a
transportation terminal when they can dump them right at the door, and
pick them up right before they leave when they get to their
destination. So what if takes 40 minutes to retrieve the bag? The
person just flew across the continent in half a day, they should be
grateful they didn't have to go by wagon train and take 6 months
complete with risks of starvation and Indian attacks. If they're that
much in a hurry, they should either travel light or ship their stuff
sperately. End of rant.)


I agree with your last point whole-heartedly. There's two issues here as to
why people HAVE to carry everything on.

1. The MYTH of lost luggage. I KNOW there will be a multitude of "well, I
lost mine" posts to this comment. SAVE IT. I've lost one bag and that was
six years ago, even before I started travelling regularly. In the past 3
3/4 years I've done atleast 500 segments. more than 95% of the time I've
checked a bag. The only time I don't is if I'm running late and can't check
it in time. Of the more than 450 flights I've done, my bag hasn't made it
exactly 5 times. Of those 5 time times, the bag has made it to my hotel or
home on the next flight. Couple of times this was the next morning, the
other times is was by noon that day.

2. Well, I have to wait XX of minutes for my bag. I will admit there are
two airports I go into frequently that have very, very slow service. These
are PHL and BOS. It sucks sometimes. There have been a few
"non-scientific" tests done on this from my perspective. Both times a
business-dweeb that ran me over on the Jetway getting off the plane.
Happens we both rented cars from the the same company. Both times, I was in
line at the gate pulling out of the lot behind these two different people.
Circumstantial, sure. As to the whole excuse, I say bull...

My two cents worth. Flames to /dev/null.

J


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Old January 14th, 2004, 07:26 PM
Hell Toupee
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Jim Anderson wrote:

I agree with your last point whole-heartedly. There's two issues here as to
why people HAVE to carry everything on.

1. The MYTH of lost luggage.


Well, there's also the problem of finding valuables disappearing from
one's checked luggage. In fact, an undercover investigation at our local
airport discovered a thriving practice in ground crews stealing from
baggage. That makes people want to keep their valuables with them on the
plane - and some of those things are quite bulky.

2. Well, I have to wait XX of minutes for my bag.


I really don't know why UPS or Pack 'n Mail or some other package
delivery service doesn't set up shipping kiosks in terminals. That'd be
a convenient last-minute option for people who, say, shopped excessively
while on vacation and daren't check their bag full of expensive or
fragile goodies. Just take it to the shipping counter and pay a few
bucks to have it all shipped home. And it'd make it easier for the
airlines to take a hard line on their baggage restrictions. If you can't
take it onboard, take it over to the freight counter and have it shipped
back to your home.

HellT
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Old January 14th, 2004, 07:47 PM
Binyamin Dissen
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On 14 Jan 2004 09:21:37 -0800 Banty wrote:

:If you're on a business trip and the time is critical - then pack lighter.

It is amusing to get advice from those whose big air travel experience was
visiting Grandma for Xmas.

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Old January 14th, 2004, 08:44 PM
Evelyn C. Leeper
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Menachem Mavet wrote:

My real pet peeve regarding luggage are those damn cases on rollers,
esepcially the ones in the smaller sizes. I can understand someone
needing rollers for a large case (which should be checked baggage,
anyway), but I see people dragging along attache-sized cases and
daypacks on rollers, which impede foot traffic more than someone just
carrying the case. No the mention the fact that cases with rollers
are bulkier and take up more space in the over head bin than
soft-sided cases, and you can't squish them to cram more stuff in.
What the hell are people carrying in those cases anyway that they need
rollers? Lead bricks? No wonder people are so out of shape these
days. They don't even want to carry briefcases!


Well, we're thinking of buying one to cart around my husband's CPAP
(Constant Pressure Air Pump--a medical device to get around sleep
problems). It's about the size of a large shoebox plus cords and
tubing, but heavy as the dickens, and not something we would want to check.

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or freed a human soul. --Mark Twain







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Old January 14th, 2004, 09:06 PM
Jenn
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In article ,
"Evelyn C. Leeper" wrote:

Menachem Mavet wrote:

My real pet peeve regarding luggage are those damn cases on rollers,
esepcially the ones in the smaller sizes. I can understand someone
needing rollers for a large case (which should be checked baggage,
anyway), but I see people dragging along attache-sized cases and
daypacks on rollers, which impede foot traffic more than someone just
carrying the case. No the mention the fact that cases with rollers
are bulkier and take up more space in the over head bin than
soft-sided cases, and you can't squish them to cram more stuff in.
What the hell are people carrying in those cases anyway that they need
rollers? Lead bricks? No wonder people are so out of shape these
days. They don't even want to carry briefcases!


Well, we're thinking of buying one to cart around my husband's CPAP
(Constant Pressure Air Pump--a medical device to get around sleep
problems). It's about the size of a large shoebox plus cords and
tubing, but heavy as the dickens, and not something we would want to check.



people who whine about other people's small wheelies are generally fit
and middle aged or younger and have no ability whatsoever to imagine
that THEY might ever have shoulder problems, or arthritis, or get old
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Old January 14th, 2004, 09:18 PM
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Jim Anderson wrote:

2. Well, I have to wait XX of minutes for my bag. I will admit there are
two airports I go into frequently that have very, very slow service. These
are PHL and BOS. It sucks sometimes. There have been a few
"non-scientific" tests done on this from my perspective. Both times a
business-dweeb that ran me over on the Jetway getting off the plane.
Happens we both rented cars from the the same company. Both times, I was in
line at the gate pulling out of the lot behind these two different people.
Circumstantial, sure. As to the whole excuse, I say bull...


Why do you suppose the business person got his car just before you, if
you had to stop at baggage claim? It sounds like he didn't use the gold
service, or maybe he stopped to shave in the terminal because he didn't
want to do it on the plane.

 




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