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Old August 12th, 2008, 09:51 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
David Horne, _the_ chancellor[_2_]
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News item on arrest figures of British tourists abroad-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7553643.stm

I've isolated here the number of visits and number of arrests.
Interesting statistics- begs lots of meaningless questions I can't
answer! Are tourists to France, Germany, Italy the Netherlands and
Turkey particularly well behaved? Possibly!

Country British visits (millions) Arrests
Spain 17 2,032
France 14.8 153
US 6.5 1,415
Italy 3.5 38
Greece 3 230
Germany 2.37 162
Turkey 1.92 34
Netherlands 1.9 20
Cyprus 1.5 377
UAE 1.1 230
Thailand 0.86 141
Australia 0.7 47
India 0.6 46
Pakistan 0.28 19
Indonesia 0.14 18

Source: FCO



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Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins
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Old August 12th, 2008, 01:34 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
Gerald Oliver Swift
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"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" wrote in message
...
News item on arrest figures of British tourists abroad-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7553643.stm

I've isolated here the number of visits and number of arrests.
Interesting statistics- begs lots of meaningless questions I can't
answer! Are tourists to France, Germany, Italy the Netherlands and
Turkey particularly well behaved? Possibly!

Country British visits (millions) Arrests
Spain 17 2,032
France 14.8 153
US 6.5 1,415
Italy 3.5 38
Greece 3 230
Germany 2.37 162
Turkey 1.92 34
Netherlands 1.9 20
Cyprus 1.5 377
UAE 1.1 230
Thailand 0.86 141
Australia 0.7 47
India 0.6 46
Pakistan 0.28 19
Indonesia 0.14 18


The highest rate of arrests per visitor numbers is in Cyprus. The Ayia Napa
Effect?

Gerry


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Old August 12th, 2008, 11:20 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:
News item on arrest figures of British tourists abroad-


Cheap flights are to blame. Reminds me of the Duke of Wellington's
disapproval of the new railway system, when he was Prime Minister, as it
would cause the working classes to travel around unnecessarily.
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Old August 12th, 2008, 11:27 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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Martin wrote:

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:20:13 +0100, Mike O'Sullivan wrote:

[]
Reminds me of the Duke of Wellington's
disapproval of the new railway system, when he was Prime Minister, as it
would cause the working classes to travel around unnecessarily.


He;s been proved right. Look how far we got


Yeah- the Netherlands!

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onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins
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Old August 13th, 2008, 09:30 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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On Aug 12, 4:51*am, (David Horne, _the_ chancellor
(*)) wrote:
News item on arrest figures of British tourists abroad-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7553643.stm

I've isolated here the number of visits and number of arrests.
Interesting statistics- begs lots of meaningless questions I can't
answer! Are tourists to France, Germany, Italy the Netherlands and
Turkey particularly well behaved? Possibly!

Country British visits (millions) * * * Arrests
Spain * * * * * 17 * * * * * * *2,032 *
France * * * * *14.8 * * * * * *153 * *
US * * * * * * *6.5 * * * * * * 1,415 *
Italy * * * * * 3.5 * * * * * * 38 * * *
Greece * * * * *3 * * * * * * * 230 * *
Germany * * * * 2.37 * * * * * *162 * *
Turkey * * * * *1.92 * * * * * *34 * * *
Netherlands * * 1.9 * * * * * * 20 * * *
Cyprus * * * * *1.5 * * * * * * 377 * *
UAE * * * * * * 1.1 * * * * * * 230 * *
Thailand * * * * * * * *0.86 * * * * * *141 * * * * * *
Australia * * * * * * * 0.7 * * * * * * 47 * * * * * * *
India * * * * * 0.6 * * * * * * 46 * * *
Pakistan * * * * * * * *0.28 * * * * * *19 * * *
Indonesia * * * * * * * 0.14 * * * * * *18 * * *

Source: FCO


What strikes me as very strange is the high ratio of arrests to visits
in the USA. I assume Spain and Cyprus are easily explained by lager
louts but is the UK sending a lot of them to Florida now?
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Old August 13th, 2008, 09:42 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
David Horne, _the_ chancellor[_2_]
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John Kane wrote:

On Aug 12, 4:51 am, (David Horne, _the_ chancellor
(*)) wrote:
News item on arrest figures of British tourists abroad-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7553643.stm

I've isolated here the number of visits and number of arrests.
Interesting statistics- begs lots of meaningless questions I can't
answer! Are tourists to France, Germany, Italy the Netherlands and
Turkey particularly well behaved? Possibly!

Country British visits (millions) Arrests
Spain 17 2,032
France 14.8 153
US 6.5 1,415
Italy 3.5 38
Greece 3 230
Germany 2.37 162
Turkey 1.92 34
Netherlands 1.9 20
Cyprus 1.5 377
UAE 1.1 230
Thailand 0.86 141
Australia 0.7 47
India 0.6 46
Pakistan 0.28 19
Indonesia 0.14 18

Source: FCO


What strikes me as very strange is the high ratio of arrests to visits
in the USA. I assume Spain and Cyprus are easily explained by lager
louts but is the UK sending a lot of them to Florida now?


Who really knows, but I'd point out that, despite my 'headline' this is
not just only tourists- but could include people living in the country
who aren't citizens of that country. Hence why there is _such_ a large
number of deaths in Spain- i.e. lots of retirees etc. Also, people
visiting the US are likely to spend longer there than, say, NL. You'd
need to see a breakdown for what peopple are arrested _for_ to get a
little closer to what is actually happenning.

--
(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www.davidhorne.net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins
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Old August 13th, 2008, 10:47 PM posted to rec.travel.europe
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"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" wrote in message
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John Kane wrote:

On Aug 12, 4:51 am, (David Horne, _the_ chancellor
(*)) wrote:
News item on arrest figures of British tourists abroad-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7553643.stm

I've isolated here the number of visits and number of arrests.
Interesting statistics- begs lots of meaningless questions I can't
answer! Are tourists to France, Germany, Italy the Netherlands and
Turkey particularly well behaved? Possibly!

Country British visits (millions) Arrests
Spain 17 2,032
France 14.8 153
US 6.5 1,415
Italy 3.5 38
Greece 3 230
Germany 2.37 162
Turkey 1.92 34
Netherlands 1.9 20
Cyprus 1.5 377
UAE 1.1 230
Thailand 0.86 141
Australia 0.7 47
India 0.6 46
Pakistan 0.28 19
Indonesia 0.14 18

Source: FCO


What strikes me as very strange is the high ratio of arrests to visits
in the USA. I assume Spain and Cyprus are easily explained by lager
louts but is the UK sending a lot of them to Florida now?


Who really knows, but I'd point out that, despite my 'headline' this is
not just only tourists- but could include people living in the country
who aren't citizens of that country. Hence why there is _such_ a large
number of deaths in Spain- i.e. lots of retirees etc. Also, people
visiting the US are likely to spend longer there than, say, NL. You'd
need to see a breakdown for what peopple are arrested _for_ to get a
little closer to what is actually happening.


It's also only those events that need consular assistance.

I would expect that in the more civilised countries most people manage this
on their own (like I did). But in some countries (like Greece) it is much
more difficult than it should be for the foreigner to get treatment.

tim


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(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www.davidhorne.net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins



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Old August 14th, 2008, 08:43 AM posted to rec.travel.europe
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tim..... wrote:

"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" wrote in message
...
John Kane wrote:

On Aug 12, 4:51 am, (David Horne, _the_ chancellor
(*)) wrote:
News item on arrest figures of British tourists abroad-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7553643.stm

I've isolated here the number of visits and number of arrests.
Interesting statistics- begs lots of meaningless questions I can't
answer! Are tourists to France, Germany, Italy the Netherlands and
Turkey particularly well behaved? Possibly!

Country British visits (millions) Arrests
Spain 17 2,032
France 14.8 153
US 6.5 1,415
Italy 3.5 38
Greece 3 230
Germany 2.37 162
Turkey 1.92 34
Netherlands 1.9 20
Cyprus 1.5 377
UAE 1.1 230
Thailand 0.86 141
Australia 0.7 47
India 0.6 46
Pakistan 0.28 19
Indonesia 0.14 18

Source: FCO

What strikes me as very strange is the high ratio of arrests to visits
in the USA. I assume Spain and Cyprus are easily explained by lager
louts but is the UK sending a lot of them to Florida now?


Who really knows, but I'd point out that, despite my 'headline' this is
not just only tourists- but could include people living in the country
who aren't citizens of that country. Hence why there is _such_ a large
number of deaths in Spain- i.e. lots of retirees etc. Also, people
visiting the US are likely to spend longer there than, say, NL. You'd
need to see a breakdown for what peopple are arrested _for_ to get a
little closer to what is actually happening.


It's also only those events that need consular assistance.


These are arrest statistics- there are separate figure for consular
assistance on the FCO website. They've said that such incidents have
risen by a third in Spain in a year, which is quite remarkable. Maybe
that's all down to drunks- you can't tell from the figures- other than
by anecdote. Something like 700,000 UK citizens live in Spain (i.e. they
are resident there most of the year)- the figure for the US is just a
bit below that.

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(*) of the royal duchy of city south and deansgate -www.davidhorne.net
(email address on website) "If people think God is interesting, the
onus is on them to show that there is anything there to talk about.
Otherwise they should just shut up about it." -Richard Dawkins
 




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