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Old September 9th, 2005, 09:09 AM
Earl Evleth
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Default French fast food caters to Muslims

McDonalds serves all-beef in their restaurants, I don`t
think there is any pork served. Halal may be the problem,
however. Jews have the same problem of they are observant.

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French fast food caters to a new audience: Muslims

By Frank Renout, Correspondent of The Christian Science Monitor Thu Sep 8,
4:00 AM ET

Beholding the two steaming hamburgers before her, Marika Karboia's eyes
gleam with joy beneath her head scarf. "You can't imagine how this feels!"
she exclaims. "For the very first time in my life, I'm eating a hamburger!"

Ms. Karboia is Muslim and is visiting the brand-new fast-food restaurant
Beurger King Muslim (BKM) in Clichy-sous-Bois, a suburb east of Paris. "It
tastes just great," she says, accompanied by her husband and son. "We used
to go to McDonalds every now and then, but as Muslims we could only have the
fishburgers."

Muslims have ritual rules for food. Fish is allowed; pork isn't. Other types
of meat have to be prepared in specific ways, according to Islamic laws.
Only then is it deemed halal - fit to eat.

A month ago, Beurger King Muslim, an independently owned restaurant that is
not related to America's Burger King chain, set a precedent by selling its
halal fast-food products in Clichy-sous-Bois. Never before has anyone in
this gourmet country tried to position fast food so explicitly for France's
estimated five million Muslims.

The interior of BKM is not unlike the better known American Burger King
chain, except for the fact that most women - customers and employees - wear
head scarves.

The word Beurger is a play on words, alluding to the young French ethnic
minorities from northern Africa - like the majority of the clients and
owners of BKM - who are often referred to as "beurs."

"Here in Clichy many people often asked for halal food," says Rachid
Bouzidi, manager of the restaurant. "That's why we started our own business.
So far, up to 80 percent of our customers are Muslim."

Beurger King Muslim appears to have hit a demographic gold mine - one few
entrepreneurs have exploited. Ibrahim Dar is one of them. After working at
Kentucky Fried Chicken for many years in Britain, he started his own chain
of restaurants in London in 1994 with halal chicken fast food. Now he owns
32 Chicken Spots throughout Britain.

His restaurants are all set up in migrant areas, with Muslim inhabitants.

"Yes, we're quite successful," he admits with a shy voice. "But it's thanks
to the demand. Muslims are asking for these sort of products. They like to
go to a fast-food restaurant, but there was nowhere to go."

The rise of these new restaurants, however, does not please everyone. Many
French say halal restaurants hinder integration.

"I think that such an idea is really passé," says Patrick Simon, who sees
the restaurants as an inevitable development. He's a migration specialist at
the French national Institute of Demographic Studies. "Integration in a
multicultural society, which we are, means new ways of collective life will
arise. And that includes people clinging to their religious identity, and
eating halal, while at the same time participating and functioning well in
French society."

Ahmed Bouadla couldn't agree more. He's having a Bacon Halal at BKM with his
wife and two children. "I was born in France, I work here and pay my taxes.
What more can I do to integrate into this society? But I can still have my
own faith, can't I? I don't see what it has to do with integration."

Mr. Bouzidi, the manager, nods in agreement. "So far, we have only got
positive feedback." And that's not just because they serve this forgotten
group of millions of clients. Company policy is to recruit staff from the
neighborhood. Most of them were jobless before they started working here.

"We cooperate closely with the job center, to give these young people a new
start," Bouzidi says.

Ibrahim Dar, owner of Chicken Spot, can cite only one disadvantage of the
new business: Ramadan - the month-long fast that Muslims hold each year.

"Ramadan is really tough for us," he says. "These four weeks of fasting
during daytime make our sales plunge. It's a setback of about 40 to 50
percent in profits."



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Old September 9th, 2005, 03:11 PM
Iceman
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"McDonalds serves all-beef in their restaurants, I don`t think there is
any pork served. Halal may be the problem, however. Jews have the
same problem of they are observant."

Strictly observant Jews can't have McDonald's hamburgers for two
reasons: (1) they cook pork and dairy products on the same grills as
beef, and (2) the cows that the beef comes from are not slaughtered by
the kosher procedure.

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Old September 9th, 2005, 07:20 PM
Gregory Morrow
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Earl Evleth wrote:

Ms. Karboia is Muslim and is visiting the brand-new fast-food restaurant
Beurger King Muslim (BKM) in Clichy-sous-Bois, a suburb east of Paris.



An excellent place to avoid.

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Old September 9th, 2005, 08:48 PM
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evleth reads a lot and he likes sharing

"Earl Evleth" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
McDonalds serves all-beef in their restaurants, I don`t
think there is any pork served. Halal may be the problem,
however. Jews have the same problem of they are observant.

***

French fast food caters to a new audience: Muslims

By Frank Renout, Correspondent of The Christian Science Monitor Thu Sep
8,
4:00 AM ET

Beholding the two steaming hamburgers before her, Marika Karboia's eyes
gleam with joy beneath her head scarf. "You can't imagine how this feels!"
she exclaims. "For the very first time in my life, I'm eating a
hamburger!"

Ms. Karboia is Muslim and is visiting the brand-new fast-food restaurant
Beurger King Muslim (BKM) in Clichy-sous-Bois, a suburb east of Paris. "It
tastes just great," she says, accompanied by her husband and son. "We used
to go to McDonalds every now and then, but as Muslims we could only have
the
fishburgers."

Muslims have ritual rules for food. Fish is allowed; pork isn't. Other
types
of meat have to be prepared in specific ways, according to Islamic laws.
Only then is it deemed halal - fit to eat.

A month ago, Beurger King Muslim, an independently owned restaurant that
is
not related to America's Burger King chain, set a precedent by selling its
halal fast-food products in Clichy-sous-Bois. Never before has anyone in
this gourmet country tried to position fast food so explicitly for
France's
estimated five million Muslims.

The interior of BKM is not unlike the better known American Burger King
chain, except for the fact that most women - customers and employees -
wear
head scarves.

The word Beurger is a play on words, alluding to the young French ethnic
minorities from northern Africa - like the majority of the clients and
owners of BKM - who are often referred to as "beurs."

"Here in Clichy many people often asked for halal food," says Rachid
Bouzidi, manager of the restaurant. "That's why we started our own
business.
So far, up to 80 percent of our customers are Muslim."

Beurger King Muslim appears to have hit a demographic gold mine - one few
entrepreneurs have exploited. Ibrahim Dar is one of them. After working at
Kentucky Fried Chicken for many years in Britain, he started his own chain
of restaurants in London in 1994 with halal chicken fast food. Now he owns
32 Chicken Spots throughout Britain.

His restaurants are all set up in migrant areas, with Muslim inhabitants.

"Yes, we're quite successful," he admits with a shy voice. "But it's
thanks
to the demand. Muslims are asking for these sort of products. They like to
go to a fast-food restaurant, but there was nowhere to go."

The rise of these new restaurants, however, does not please everyone. Many
French say halal restaurants hinder integration.

"I think that such an idea is really passé," says Patrick Simon, who sees
the restaurants as an inevitable development. He's a migration specialist
at
the French national Institute of Demographic Studies. "Integration in a
multicultural society, which we are, means new ways of collective life
will
arise. And that includes people clinging to their religious identity, and
eating halal, while at the same time participating and functioning well in
French society."

Ahmed Bouadla couldn't agree more. He's having a Bacon Halal at BKM with
his
wife and two children. "I was born in France, I work here and pay my
taxes.
What more can I do to integrate into this society? But I can still have my
own faith, can't I? I don't see what it has to do with integration."

Mr. Bouzidi, the manager, nods in agreement. "So far, we have only got
positive feedback." And that's not just because they serve this forgotten
group of millions of clients. Company policy is to recruit staff from the
neighborhood. Most of them were jobless before they started working here.

"We cooperate closely with the job center, to give these young people a
new
start," Bouzidi says.

Ibrahim Dar, owner of Chicken Spot, can cite only one disadvantage of the
new business: Ramadan - the month-long fast that Muslims hold each year.

"Ramadan is really tough for us," he says. "These four weeks of fasting
during daytime make our sales plunge. It's a setback of about 40 to 50
percent in profits."





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Old September 9th, 2005, 08:48 PM
Earl Evleth
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On 9/09/05 20:20, in article
et, "Gregory Morrow"
[email protected] hlink.net wrote:

Ms. Karboia is Muslim and is visiting the brand-new fast-food restaurant
Beurger King Muslim (BKM) in Clichy-sous-Bois, a suburb east of Paris.



An excellent place to avoid



I have never been there. I did go out to Sarcelles to take photos for a
book. This is mostly black and dark skin territory, probably not dangerous
although my picture taking was not fully appreciated.

But, right, these are not the areas a foreign tourist would be interested
in visiting!

Earl

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Old September 9th, 2005, 09:04 PM
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Strictly observant Jews can't have McDonald's hamburgers for two
reasons: (1) they cook pork and dairy products on the same grills as beef,

What pork or diary products do they grill at all??


The sausage and bacon in the breakfast sandwiches, and the cheese
slices on cheeseburgers.

However, many Jews and Moslem are not that observant. But they will not
eat pork. That is a strict taboo.
The Moslem prisoner we help in prison in France draws the line at pork, he won't
touch it. But he does not insist on Halal.


Some Jews or Muslims who are not religiously observant but were brought
up never eating pork often simply don't have a taste for pork and avoid
it.

The commercial creation of a Moslem hamburger fast food is probably more social
than anything, a declaration of being different,


Would a fast food chain aimed at Latin American immigrants to the US be
a social statement and declaration of difference, or simply an effort
to capitalize on a market?

Moslem pride if you wish. I suspect that 70-80% of both the French Moslems and
Jews are not strictly observant


That is probably true. And 95% of French Catholics?

but the Moslems in particular have a statement to make.


Which is understandable, since Muslims are economically and politically
marginalized in France, and many of them feel alienated from the
mainstream of French society.

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Old September 9th, 2005, 09:12 PM
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Iceman wrote:

Strictly observant Jews can't have McDonald's hamburgers for two
reasons: (1) they cook pork and dairy products on the same grills as beef,

What pork or diary products do they grill at all??


The sausage and bacon in the breakfast sandwiches, and the cheese
slices on cheeseburgers.

However, many Jews and Moslem are not that observant. But they will not
eat pork. That is a strict taboo.
The Moslem prisoner we help in prison in France draws the line at pork,
he won't touch it. But he does not insist on Halal.


Some Jews or Muslims who are not religiously observant but were brought
up never eating pork often simply don't have a taste for pork and avoid
it.


And there are certainly non-observant Jews who eat pork. Plenty.

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Old September 9th, 2005, 10:48 PM
Runge
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Lol
the adventurous evleth went to sarcelles !

"Earl Evleth" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
On 9/09/05 20:20, in article
et, "Gregory Morrow"
[email protected] hlink.net wrote:

Ms. Karboia is Muslim and is visiting the brand-new fast-food restaurant
Beurger King Muslim (BKM) in Clichy-sous-Bois, a suburb east of Paris.



An excellent place to avoid



I have never been there. I did go out to Sarcelles to take photos for a
book. This is mostly black and dark skin territory, probably not dangerous
although my picture taking was not fully appreciated.

But, right, these are not the areas a foreign tourist would be interested
in visiting!

Earl



 




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