What's happened to our money?

"Gunter Herrmann" wrote in message
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Hi!

Bob Myers wrote:

First, you're wrong. SERIOUSLY wrong - the park itself (both
Yellowstone specifically, and the National Park System in
general) is NOT run by a "concession" - it is run by the Park Service.
The concessionaire runs such things as gift shops, snack bars,
lodging in the park (if any), etc.. (And, by the way, the
concessionaire for Yellowstone, and a number of others, isn't
Aramark - it's Xanterra, based in Aurora, CO.)

What I can't understand is the idea of giving all business in a
certain location to one company.

Do you think a single business could successfully run the concession stand
out in the middle of nowhere? If one company didn't have all of the
concessions in a park the prices would be much higher.

It is the same stupid idea in a lot
of airports in the USA. Why not have different restaurants in a NP
run by different businesses?

No thanks. I prefer the existing system over ever seeing the golden arches
near Old Faithful.

Isn't competition a major part of the
American Way of Live?

How do you think they got the contract?


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"Gunter Herrmann" wrote in message
...
Hi!

Bob Myers wrote:

First, you're wrong. SERIOUSLY wrong - the park itself (both
Yellowstone specifically, and the National Park System in
general) is NOT run by a "concession" - it is run by the Park Service.
The concessionaire runs such things as gift shops, snack bars,
lodging in the park (if any), etc.. (And, by the way, the
concessionaire for Yellowstone, and a number of others, isn't
Aramark - it's Xanterra, based in Aurora, CO.)

What I can't understand is the idea of giving all business in a
certain location to one company.

Do you think a single business could successfully run the concession stand
out in the middle of nowhere? If one company didn't have all of the
concessions in a park the prices would be much higher.

It is the same stupid idea in a lot
of airports in the USA. Why not have different restaurants in a NP
run by different businesses?

No thanks. I prefer the existing system over ever seeing the golden arches
near Old Faithful.

Isn't competition a major part of the
American Way of Live?

How do you think they got the contract?


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"Irv" wrote in message
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Winabagel wrote:

There must be some kind of serious corruption going on in the Department
of Interior starting with the Chief named G. W. Bush, who has been known
to the world as the evil leader of the century. This idiot Bush has
funneled hundred of billions of dollars into the pockets of his friends
in the oil industry such as Halliburton while depleting and endangering
the natural resources of the very country he has sworn to protect.

Isn't it time that the American people take back this country before
it's too late???

Mr. Clinton had 8 years to toss them out.
You need to explain why he didn't before you have any credibility at all.


You're right! The OP must be a Nader supporter!!

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"Irv" wrote in message
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Winabagel wrote:

There must be some kind of serious corruption going on in the Department
of Interior starting with the Chief named G. W. Bush, who has been known
to the world as the evil leader of the century. This idiot Bush has
funneled hundred of billions of dollars into the pockets of his friends
in the oil industry such as Halliburton while depleting and endangering
the natural resources of the very country he has sworn to protect.

Isn't it time that the American people take back this country before
it's too late???

Mr. Clinton had 8 years to toss them out.
You need to explain why he didn't before you have any credibility at all.


You're right! The OP must be a Nader supporter!!

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" BruceB" wrote...
Pls get a life. Concessions in parks all over the country including
National Parks have been dealing with consessionaires(sp?) since the
beginning of time. You think the government would do a better job while
making a profit?? This was taking place under every President since
probably Jefferson.. Your rant just makes you look like an asshole. You
want to bitch about the current President, go to some political site and do
so. It's a free country. Meanwhile, be aware this site is supposed to be
about Travel in the US and Canada. Your post was OT.

I agree that concessionaires have been a part of park-life since the NPS
began, and its something the OP should hardly be surprised by, and could
easily deal with by ignoring their services. However, it is also true that the
Bush admin. has no great love for protecting wilderness or the environment.

From drilling in the ANWAR to paving roads thru wild lands in National
Forests, to increasing coal plant emissions, Republicans seem to have an
unseemly eagerness to sell off our natural legacy to the highest bidder. Can
anyone remember James Watt, Regan's Sec'y. of the Interior, who wanted
to allow strip mining next to Bryce Canyon NP? It may not be /that/ bad,
yet, but if the yahoo's running the environmental agencies these days
have their way, who's to say.

There was a time when conservatives also could believe in conservation.
The shame of it is that the Republican party used to have leaders who felt
that government should preserve our natural heritage and protect the
environment, but that no longer seems to be the case. [R]

" BruceB" wrote...
Pls get a life. Concessions in parks all over the country including
National Parks have been dealing with consessionaires(sp?) since the
beginning of time. You think the government would do a better job while
making a profit?? This was taking place under every President since
probably Jefferson.. Your rant just makes you look like an asshole. You
want to bitch about the current President, go to some political site and do
so. It's a free country. Meanwhile, be aware this site is supposed to be
about Travel in the US and Canada. Your post was OT.

I agree that concessionaires have been a part of park-life since the NPS
began, and its something the OP should hardly be surprised by, and could
easily deal with by ignoring their services. However, it is also true that the
Bush admin. has no great love for protecting wilderness or the environment.

From drilling in the ANWAR to paving roads thru wild lands in National
Forests, to increasing coal plant emissions, Republicans seem to have an
unseemly eagerness to sell off our natural legacy to the highest bidder. Can
anyone remember James Watt, Regan's Sec'y. of the Interior, who wanted
to allow strip mining next to Bryce Canyon NP? It may not be /that/ bad,
yet, but if the yahoo's running the environmental agencies these days
have their way, who's to say.

There was a time when conservatives also could believe in conservation.
The shame of it is that the Republican party used to have leaders who felt
that government should preserve our natural heritage and protect the
environment, but that no longer seems to be the case. [R]

" BruceB" wrote...
Pls get a life. Concessions in parks all over the country including
National Parks have been dealing with consessionaires(sp?) since the
beginning of time. You think the government would do a better job while
making a profit?? This was taking place under every President since
probably Jefferson.. Your rant just makes you look like an asshole. You
want to bitch about the current President, go to some political site and do
so. It's a free country. Meanwhile, be aware this site is supposed to be
about Travel in the US and Canada. Your post was OT.

I agree that concessionaires have been a part of park-life since the NPS
began, and its something the OP should hardly be surprised by, and could
easily deal with by ignoring their services. However, it is also true that the
Bush admin. has no great love for protecting wilderness or the environment.

From drilling in the ANWAR to paving roads thru wild lands in National
Forests, to increasing coal plant emissions, Republicans seem to have an
unseemly eagerness to sell off our natural legacy to the highest bidder. Can
anyone remember James Watt, Regan's Sec'y. of the Interior, who wanted
to allow strip mining next to Bryce Canyon NP? It may not be /that/ bad,
yet, but if the yahoo's running the environmental agencies these days
have their way, who's to say.

There was a time when conservatives also could believe in conservation.
The shame of it is that the Republican party used to have leaders who felt
that government should preserve our natural heritage and protect the
environment, but that no longer seems to be the case. [R]

In article ,
Gunter Herrmann wrote:

Hi!

Bob Myers wrote:

First, you're wrong. SERIOUSLY wrong - the park itself (both
Yellowstone specifically, and the National Park System in
general) is NOT run by a "concession" - it is run by the Park Service.
The concessionaire runs such things as gift shops, snack bars,
lodging in the park (if any), etc.. (And, by the way, the
concessionaire for Yellowstone, and a number of others, isn't
Aramark - it's Xanterra, based in Aurora, CO.)

What I can't understand is the idea of giving all business in a
certain location to one company. It is the same stupid idea in a lot
of airports in the USA. Why not have different restaurants in a NP
run by different businesses? Isn't competition a major part of the
American Way of Live?

The reason is something that's referred to as "economies of scale."
In short, its cheaper to contract out with one company than numerous
companies and one contract is a heck of a lot easier to administer
than multiple contracts.

In article ,
Gunter Herrmann wrote:

Hi!

Bob Myers wrote:

First, you're wrong. SERIOUSLY wrong - the park itself (both
Yellowstone specifically, and the National Park System in
general) is NOT run by a "concession" - it is run by the Park Service.
The concessionaire runs such things as gift shops, snack bars,
lodging in the park (if any), etc.. (And, by the way, the
concessionaire for Yellowstone, and a number of others, isn't
Aramark - it's Xanterra, based in Aurora, CO.)

What I can't understand is the idea of giving all business in a
certain location to one company. It is the same stupid idea in a lot
of airports in the USA. Why not have different restaurants in a NP
run by different businesses? Isn't competition a major part of the
American Way of Live?

The reason is something that's referred to as "economies of scale."
In short, its cheaper to contract out with one company than numerous
companies and one contract is a heck of a lot easier to administer
than multiple contracts.

"Winabagel" wrote in message
...
In our recent visit to the Yellowstone NP we learned that the Park was
essentially run by a "concession", a privately-owned for-profit outfit
called Aramark. This huge multi-national corporation basically owns the
big wheels in the Department of the Interior, or at least has these
corrupted politicians in its pocket.

I had thought the National Parks system is suppose to be managed by the
tax-payers supported organization called "the government". But it's
turned out that it cost taxpayers much more to enjoy the NP system now a
day. Everything in the park, such as gifts and food and transportation,
is more expensive than it should be because we have a FOR-PROFIT
organization sits between the people and the beautiful nature with one
objective in mind: MONEY and lots of it. What I don't get is the
national parks belong to everyone in the US - not just for a few rich
and powerful corporations to exploit the park visitors and to capitalize
on what suppose to be free in nature.


You dont have to buy those gifts (mainly trash ) , food or transportation
and this is nothing new , it dates back to the early 20th century so blaming
in the present administration is just stoopid.

Keith





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