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Old June 5th, 2010, 12:04 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
O'Donovan, PJ, Himself
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National Healthcare Saves $$ By Letting Patients Suffer


"Governor Sarah Palin once complained of those "death panels" in the
President's healthcare policy, a scoff that infuriated Obamacare's
supporters. But the fact is, by its very nature a nationalized
healthcare system like the one that Obama wants acts as a "death
panel" by denying care to save money. We don't have to guess at this
eventuality, either. We have but to look to England's health services
and we'll see the exact situation that Palin warned about.

A recent piece published in the Daily Mail reports that the British
National Health Service is going to deny services to millions of
Britain's citizens in order to save twenty billion pounds of the NHS
budget. "Millions of patients face losing NHS care as bosses prepare
to axe treatments to make 20billion of savings by 2014, a top doctor
has warned," the paper warns.

British medical services will likely soon deny hernia treatments,
joint replacement for overweight patients, ear procedures (even for
children), nose and eye operations, varicose vein procedures,
gallbladder and also carpal tunnel procedures. And this isn't
something new. The Brits already deny all sorts of modern medicines
because they feel the costs are too high.

Some may say that the Brit's failures may not be visited upon the
nationalized healthcare system in the United States but Obamacare
isn't even fairly implemented and we are seeing mounting costs that
far and away out pace the costs we were told that the policy would
cost us.

One of the hidden costs nestled in the 2,400-page bill is the $3.4
billion hit that American businesses will be faced with upon the
implementation of the new tax on benefits that many large corporations
will have to pay.

Paul Howard of City Journal finds the irony in this new tax.

Here’s the irony. When Democrats removed the tax exemption for the
subsidy, they claimed to be striking a blow against corporate welfare.
What they ignored, however, was that the subsidy was actually a
previous Congress’s attempt to protect taxpayers. In creating the
Medicare Part D drug benefit in 2003, Congress added the subsidy—which
amounted to about 28 percent of the cost of coverage—to encourage
companies that already offered drug benefits to retirees to keep
paying those benefits, rather than dumping them onto taxpayers. By
taxing the subsidy, Democrats are effectively encouraging companies to
scrap the benefit entirely and ask Uncle Sam to foot the bill.
So benefits that are now partly borne by corporations, partly by
employees, and partly by a government subsidy will likely now either
be wholly forced on the businesses -- which will then raise prices of
its product to cover costs -- or will be wholly covered by the
taxpayers through total assumption by government once corporations
drop the benefit.

Howard sums up with a lament that shows that opposition to Obamacare
is justified.

In short, Obamacare is barely two months old, and the nation is
already discovering what opponents of the legislation argued all
along: that it will cost taxpayers far more than expected and send
health-care spending into the stratosphere.
And once all these "unexpected costs" (as Democrats will likely term
them) become manifest the only solution will be to cut services just
like the British are now doing.

Hence, Palin's much feared "death panels" will appear full grown and
authored by Barack Obama."
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Old June 5th, 2010, 02:29 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,soc.retirement,rec.travel.europe
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National Healthcare Saves $$ By Letting Patients Suffer


"Governor Sarah Palin once complained of those "death panels" in the
President's healthcare policy, a scoff that infuriated Obamacare's
supporters. But the fact is, by its very nature a nationalized
healthcare system like the one that Obama wants acts as a "death
panel" by denying care to save money. We don't have to guess at this
eventuality, either. We have but to look to England's health services
and we'll see the exact situation that Palin warned about.


TIS PJ WITH MORE CRAP.



A recent piece published in the Daily Mail reports that the British
National Health Service is going to deny services to millions of
Britain's citizens in order to save twenty billion pounds of the NHS
budget.

OF COURSE WITH AMERICA'S NO HEALTH SYSTEM THIS IS NOT A PROBLEM BECAUSE NO
ATTEMPT IS MADE TO MEET THE HEALTH REQUIREMENTS OF A NATION SO JUST GO AND
SUFFER, DIE, WHATEVER, WE DO NOT WANT PJ AND HIS GREEDY FRIENDS TO WORRY
ABOUT THE CENTS MORE THEY MIGHT HAVE TO PART WITH INTAXES?
HOW LOW CAN YOU GO.



"Millions of patients face losing NHS care as bosses prepare
to axe treatments to make 20billion of savings by 2014, a top doctor
has warned," the paper warns.

NO PROBLEM UNDER THE AMERICAN PAY FOR HEALTH SYSTEM, YOU ARE NOT GETTING
CARE ANYWAY.
AND DONT HAVE THAT PESKY CROWDING OF HOSPITALS THAT IS SO ANNOYING FOR THE
RICH BITCH CROWD THAT IS PJ'S TURF.


British medical services will likely soon deny hernia treatments,
joint replacement for overweight patients, ear procedures (even for
children), nose and eye operations, varicose vein procedures,
gallbladder and also carpal tunnel procedures. And this isn't
something new. The Brits already deny all sorts of modern medicines
because they feel the costs are too high.

OF COURSE AS AN AMERICAN IN THE PAY FOR HEALTH SYSTEM YOU WEILL NOT EVEN
HEAR A MENTION OF WHAT YOU ARE MISSING OUT ON BECAUSE YOU CANNOT EVEN AFFORD
A CONSULTATION WITH A DOCTOR TO FIND OUT WHAT YOUR PROBLEM IS.

AND IF YOU DO CANNOT AFFORD THE TREATMENT BECAUSE PJ AND HIS ILK DONT WANT
TO PAY ANY MORE TAXES ON THEIR MILLION DOLLAR INCOMES.




Some may say that the Brit's failures may not be visited upon the
nationalized healthcare system in the United States but Obamacare
isn't even fairly implemented and we are seeing mounting costs that
far and away out pace the costs we were told that the policy would
cost us.

OBAMCARE WILL BE BETTER THAN NO CARE THAT PJ IS TRYING TO SELL TO SAVE A FEW
BUCKS ON THE TAXES OF HIS MILLION DOLLAR INCOME.




One of the hidden costs nestled in the 2,400-page bill is the $3.4
billion hit that American businesses will be faced with upon the
implementation of the new tax on benefits that many large corporations
will have to pay.

YES MUCH CHEAPER TO LET EM DIE, SAVES ALL THOSE COMPLICATIONS AND SAVES A
FEW DOLLARS ON MILLION DOLLAR INCOMES.





Paul Howard of City Journal finds the irony in this new tax.

Here’s the irony. When Democrats removed the tax exemption for the
subsidy, they claimed to be striking a blow against corporate welfare.
What they ignored, however, was that the subsidy was actually a
previous Congress’s attempt to protect taxpayers. In creating the
Medicare Part D drug benefit in 2003, Congress added the subsidy—which
amounted to about 28 percent of the cost of coverage—to encourage
companies that already offered drug benefits to retirees to keep
paying those benefits, rather than dumping them onto taxpayers. By
taxing the subsidy,

SO NICE THE PARTIAL AND ADHOC COVERS GONE FOR A MORE SUBSTANTIAL AND
PERMANENT COVER.

GOODNESS WHO WOULD WANT THAT WHEN YOU CAN STAY UNCOVERED OR SO POORLY
COVERED THAT NO SANE PERSON WOULD ACCEPT IT.
AND ALL TO SAVE A FEW DOLLARS FOR THE MILLIONAIRES CLUB.





Democrats are effectively encouraging companies to
scrap the benefit entirely and ask Uncle Sam to foot the bill.
So benefits that are now partly borne by corporations, partly by
employees, and partly by a government subsidy will likely now either
be wholly forced on the businesses -- which will then raise prices of
its product to cover costs -- or will be wholly covered by the
taxpayers through total assumption by government once corporations
drop the benefit.


Howard sums up with a lament that shows that opposition to Obamacare
is justified.

In short, Obamacare is barely two months old, and the nation is
already discovering what opponents of the legislation argued all
along: that it will cost taxpayers far more than expected and send
health-care spending into the stratosphere.

ENGLAND AND A DOZEN OTHER COUNTRIES MANAGE TO MAKE THE ADJUSTMENTS AND HAVE
FREE HEALTH CARE.

THE ABSOLUTE DICKHEAD IS TRYING TO TELL US THAT WOE WOE MILLIONARES AND
MILLIONS OF BIG CO'S MIGHT BE DOWN A COUPLE OF DOLLARS INWHAT ISSUPPOSED TO
BE THE RICHEST COUNTRY INTHE WORLD.

AND PJ SUPPORTS CUTTING THE NATIONAL CAKE SO TAT THE HAVES DO NOT HAVETO
CONTRIBUTE A TITTLE TO THE HAVE NOTS.




And once all these "unexpected costs" (as Democrats will likely term
them) become manifest the only solution will be to cut services just
like the British are now doing.

Hence, Palin's much feared "death panels" will appear full grown and
authored by Barack Obama."


 




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