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Immigration patrols on domestic Amtrak
"Martin D. Pay" wrote in message ... On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 22:39:37 -0700, mangled uncounted electrons thus: On Jul 14, 6:44 pm, "Bill in Schenectady" wrote: We were on the Lake Shore Limited, traveling from Chicago to Schenectady (the train goes on to New York City) when, just after the Buffalo stop, the train stopped and two uniformed immigration patrol officers boarded and walked through the coach class cars asking each person if he or she is an American citizen. And this surprises you because...? Amtrak official policy (as stated on their website) is that government-issued photo ID is required to purchase a ticket. Does that mean a US-government issued ID? No If so, the tentative plans my wife and I are making to use Amtrack for internal travel (rather than fly internally within the USA) on our next visit won't be possible... British passports are OK, I've used Amtrak no problem. Keith |
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On Jul 15, 7:35 am, "Adam H. Kerman" wrote:
Yeah, I'm sure it's just like the Soviet Union was, where I'll bet you never traveled by train either. So how much you wanna bet? I've been riding trains in that part of the world going as far back as 1979. In my experience they would do ID checks to make sure foreigners paid a huge markup on fares. |
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Immigration patrols on domestic Amtrak
""Király"" wrote in message
news:09smi.44658$xk5.8451@edtnps82... In rec.travel.usa-canada Whitelightning wrote: Once west of the great lakes the border between Canada and the USA is damn near imposable to secure unless we put troops on the border spaced every 100 yards, would to be every 25 yards in some places unless we started clear cutting vegetation. It is already clear cut, 20 feet wide. It is? I've crossed the US-Canadian border a dozen times in the last few years, and I've never been able to figure out exactly where it is because it's just a bunch of trees right up to the road. I figure it's somewhere between the respective countries' checkpoints, but they're a quarter mile or so a part in places. No clearcutting or even signs to tell you where the actual border is. Anyone who cared could easily just walk around the checkpoints and never be noticed. What really jerks my chain is that folks on the US side demanded to see my passport to allow me to _leave_ the US. They were far more interested in me than the Canadians, who just waved me through without even opening the booth's window. S -- Stephen Sprunk "Those people who think they know everything CCIE #3723 are a great annoyance to those of us who do." K5SSS --Isaac Asimov -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Immigration patrols on domestic Amtrak
"Martin D. Pay" wrote in message
... On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 22:39:37 -0700, mangled uncounted electrons thus: Amtrak official policy (as stated on their website) is that government-issued photo ID is required to purchase a ticket. Does that mean a US-government issued ID? If so, the tentative plans my wife and I are making to use Amtrack for internal travel (rather than fly internally within the USA) on our next visit won't be possible... "Government-issued photo ID" means any piece of paper or plastic issued by any government, anywhere on the planet, that has your name and photo. A passport is preferred if you don't have a US driver's license, but not strictly necessary. S -- Stephen Sprunk "Those people who think they know everything CCIE #3723 are a great annoyance to those of us who do." K5SSS --Isaac Asimov -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Immigration patrols on domestic Amtrak
On 2007-07-15 15:49:11 -0400, "Stephen Sprunk" said:
What really jerks my chain is that folks on the US side demanded to see my passport to allow me to _leave_ the US. They were far more interested in me than the Canadians, who just waved me through without even opening the booth's window. What do you mean? We cross the border frequently. Going from the US to Canada, we don't even go through a US checkpoint. How do you get sent through one? And Canada is not nearly that bored by us. We always get stopped and asked where we're going, how long we're going to be in Canada and whether we're bringing anything that might interest them. |
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In message Fred Ellis
wrote: You must not have travel on any of the interstate highways or US Routes in the southwest part of the country. The Border Patrol has numerous elaborate check points that are manned 24/7. If you are east bound on IH 10 from El Paso, there is permanent check point station near Sierra Blanca that you have to go through. I have been through at least a half dozen or more of these permanent facilities while traveling through the southwestern part of the country. And if the driver presents valid identification and everyone else refuses, then what? -- If quitters never win, and winners never quit, what fool came up with, "Quit while you're ahead"? |
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Immigration patrols on domestic Amtrak
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:26:40 +0100, Martin D. Pay
wrote: Amtrak official policy (as stated on their website) is that government-issued photo ID is required to purchase a ticket. Does that mean a US-government issued ID? If so, the tentative plans my wife and I are making to use Amtrack for internal travel (rather than fly internally within the USA) on our next visit won't be possible... I bought my ticket over the web on the AMTRAK site and showed my Australian passport when I picked it up at Penn Station. I also picked up my wife's ticket and the clerk never even saw her, let alone her passport. Cheers, Alan, Australia -- http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/ latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/ latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management |
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On 2007-07-15 17:35:40 -0400, "Adam H. Kerman" said:
wrote: On 2007-07-15 15:49:11 -0400, "Stephen Sprunk" said: What really jerks my chain is that folks on the US side demanded to see my passport to allow me to _leave_ the US. They were far more interested in me than the Canadians, who just waved me through without even opening the booth's window. What do you mean? We cross the border frequently. Going from the US to Canada, we don't even go through a US checkpoint. How do you get sent through one? And Canada is not nearly that bored by us. We always get stopped and asked where we're going, how long we're going to be in Canada and whether we're bringing anything that might interest them. Beer? Back bacon? Do you have an answer to my questions or are you just bull****ting? |
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"sechumlib" wrote in message
... On 2007-07-15 15:49:11 -0400, "Stephen Sprunk" said: What really jerks my chain is that folks on the US side demanded to see my passport to allow me to _leave_ the US. They were far more interested in me than the Canadians, who just waved me through without even opening the booth's window. What do you mean? We cross the border frequently. Going from the US to Canada, we don't even go through a US checkpoint. How do you get sent through one? It was just a couple guys in uniform standing in the northbound lanes, across from the checkpoint heading south. I asked why they were there, and they said it was a "courtesy" to make sure people had the papers they'd need to come back. They weren't particularly courteous, though, and they grilled me about why I was going to Canada. My bet is they were really looking for fugitives trying to leave the country, and it's a lot easier to catch them on the US side than to hope the Canadians will nab them and then have to deal with extradition. Since I've only crossed at that location once, I don't know if it's a regular thing there or only on special occasions. And Canada is not nearly that bored by us. We always get stopped and asked where we're going, how long we're going to be in Canada and whether we're bringing anything that might interest them. Drive across alone in business attire; apparently terrorists and smugglers dress casually and/or bring their families with them ;-) They're a bit better in airports, but after they flip through my passport and see prior Canadian entries, they just stamp it again, ask a couple questions, and tell me to enjoy my stay. This is the same idiocy that exempts "elite" members of frequent flyer programs from the TSA's "random" screening. They only focus on the folks that travel/cross infrequently. S -- Stephen Sprunk "Those people who think they know everything CCIE #3723 are a great annoyance to those of us who do." K5SSS --Isaac Asimov -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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