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German stabbed to Death on PHUKET
German stabbed to death in Phuket
RAWAI, PHUKET: A German expat was stabbed to death last night outside a 7-Eleven shop on a busy road in Rawai. The dead man has been identified as 66-year-old Eugen Wolf-Dieter, a resident of Ban Saiyuan in Rawai. Police are on the hunt for three teenage suspects who beat and stabbed Mr Wolf-Dieter before fleeing on a motorbike. From their initial investigations, police said Mr Dieter was driving his Toyota Vigo pick-up south along Chao Fa Road West. As he reached Chalong Circle, a pink Yamaha Fino driving against the flow of traffic suddenly cut across his path and drove onto the Chalong Pier road, just missing Mr Wolf-Dieter's truck, witnesses said. Witnesses said Mr Wolf-Dieter got angry, shouted at the boys and then gave them the middle finger. Chalong Police Duty Officer Anukul Nuket received the report of the stabbing at 7:40pm. The riders got angry, so they had an argument with the German and followed him until he stopped the truck at the scene, he said. A fight ensued during which the German was stabbed in his chest and stomach, he said. The three suspects fled on their bike south toward Rawai Beach. By the time police arrived, rescue workers from Phuket Rumjai Kupai Foundation had already rushed Mr Wolf-Dieter to Vachira Phuket Hospital in Phuket Town, but he died en route. As of 11am today, Chalong Police were still searching for the assailants. Print this story | Send it to a friend Send Letter to Gazette Editor Facebook MySpace Twitter Gazette Reporter Phuket,Thailand 15:46 local time (GMT +7) Comment on this story [There are 44 comments so far.] Land of smiles. NOT. Posted by lord Jim Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 3:59:40 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend What wonderful publicity for Phuket! First the tuk-tuk drivers are beating up tourists and now lawless teens after recklessly driving in front of this man have the audacity to get angry and kill him! Phuket's reputation continues to suffer at the hands of these lawless thugs! The "prisoners are running the jail" in Phuket and if the police do not get this crime fest under control there will be a big price to pay. The police need to stop worrying about collecting 200 baht fines for minor issues and focus on crime prevention. Posted by tommy Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:04:18 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend People get killed in Thailand so easy and no witnesses because we all too afraid to get involved. So everyone just stands there and watches, and after someone is hurt or dead they all say they saw nothing. We need help from the police, and the police also need our help. Stop the Thai moong thing and do something to help! Posted by aussiejoy Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:12:02 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I hope that they'll get these cowards and let them rot in prison. Posted by Islander Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:17:48 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Just a few short years ago, things like this were unheard of. Just what is happening to this beautiful island? The levels of violence just keep increasing, yet the authorities don't seem to care enough to get tough on these criminals. Posted by Tom Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:27:01 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend If the violence continues I will be changing my retirement plans to calmer waters, ike Malaysia. Posted by Scotty Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:35:59 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Too many deaths by stabbing or shooting. Why don't the police stop and search motorbike riders for such weapons? These aren't legal in this country, I suppose, so why not take action in this direction from time to time as a measure of prevention? They'll sure catch some long wanted fish that way! Posted by dieter Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:39:02 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Why do we NEVER hear about a one-on-one fight in Thailand? If Muay Thai is supposedly so awesome (which it's not), why do these cowards always fight with weapons and always with overwhelming odds? This is pathetic. It's a mess in Thailand now. Posted by Dave Williams Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:59:39 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend The police need to stop bothering about catching farang without helmets and get out there and attend to more important issues. A good place to start would be to apprehend all these guys who flout the road rules as many incidents are caused through such carelessness as they know the police will do nothing. Posted by Dave Lombardi Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:10:21 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Let's hope for real justice. Long sentences might prevent further deaths Posted by john webb Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:20:06 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I am saddened by this latest tragedy. Phuket is becoming a very unsafe place to be. I agree that if something is not done soon there will be a price to pay. Right now it's the foreigners paying the price with there lives. I hope these thugs, or should I say cowards, are caught and dealt with severely. They should receive the same treatment they dished out. Posted by rg Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:21:46 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Respect older people? Land of Smiles? Phuket is clearly not safe anymore. Way too many incidents like this, with too many foreigners hurt or killed during the past few weeks! What do the police in Chalong do, anyway. Do they just check foreigners for helmets and driving licenses? Posted by moskito Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:22:41 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Did not anybody tell this German that it is the god-given right of young Thais to drive wherever they wish? The police are not teaching them and neither are their parents. And to give them the finger salute is a big mistake! Posted by Guenter Bellach Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:42:48 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I don't think that you can expect Chalong police to 'just happen' to be at the exact place at the at exact time of a murder. It doesn't happen with any other police force, in any other place on the planet! This is a social problem, linked to poverty and education, just like the steep rise in knife crime in Europe. Remember that place? Posted by Jon Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:46:19 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I'm not surprised that it happens in Rawai. Rawai, Chalong, Kata and Karon are unsafe areas because the police have been quite there over the past few years. Posted by Satip Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:49:06 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I am retired and have been living for many years with my Thai wife on this ex-wonderful island, which remained a very nice place for living until 4-5 years ago. We've decided to move soon to another province in Thailand, leaving Phuket to its 'authorities', to the gangs, to the scams, to the tuk-tuks, to the salaeng (illegal, but thousands of them anyway), to the jet-skis, to all the vendors and touts (especially in Patong) that jam the sidewalks, etc. Phuket has become just a factory, obviously attracting the worst, but there are so many other provinces in Thailand where life and the people are so nice, and authentic. Pai! ('Let's go', in Thai.) Posted by sm Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:49:31 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Don't get me wrong; I'm 100% against this type of violent behavior. This type of 'road rage' is insane and should not be tolerated by any society. But how hard is it to understand that you do NOT give the finger in this country? While it is not acceptable behavior even in Europe, it is an extreme personal insult in Thai society. Not long ago on this site there was another report of a German giving the finger in traffic. He, too, ended up dead on the site, by shooting in that particular incident. Posted by Michael Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:06:00 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend It seems the local authorities don't have the skill or the will to crack down on the HUGE number of murders here on Phuket. Posted by Concerned Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:24:56 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Welcome to the land of: "Of course you can kill and get away with it as long as you wear a helmet while riding your motorbike". Posted by olov hallberg Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:30:55 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend 1. How did the witnesses see him flip the finger to the guy? Who were they? They saw the German get angry and followed him to where he was stabbed? Or some random people came forward and just said they saw this as they put 2 and 2 together. Looks like the police are trying to 'justify' it. 2. Who said these things never happened before? They did; they are just reported more I think. Four years ago someone tried to attack me on my bike. This was at 3pm in Kata 5. All these expensive villas in Rawai and the unsuspecting investors don't realize the area is infested with killers and thieves. I'll bet they'll arrest the perpetrators of this murder and let them out the same day. LIke the tuk-tuk driver. Where is he now? Posted by Vfaye Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:41:04 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend This is just one in a long, long stream of crimes against foreigners over the past couple of years. Thailand is no longer safe. Every farang who dreams about retirement in Thailand should give that idea a second thought. Posted by gunnar Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:46:11 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Just a thought... not trying to justify this, but isn't giving the middle finger issuing a challenge? After which we'd better be damn sure we can back up? Posted by Just a thought ... Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:48:29 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Seems to me this sort of thing happens all too often. Then a few days later it's forgotten by all except those who knew the victim. It also seems to me that a fund to offer a reward/incentive to the police to catch and prosecute the guilty might help. If everyone living here that gave a damn chipped in at least a few hundred baht it might add up to enough to make a difference. Just need someone trustworthy to hold the funds! Posted by Stuart Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:52:03 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Phuket pays his bill already. Less tourists every year and a big decline in quality. Only low-key people arrive. They do not spend much and avoid high paying venues. That is one result of non-protection of foreign tourists by the Thai government. But the rapidly rising crime rate is only one of the many developments that have conspired to destroy Phuket as a tourist destination. Posted by Peter Czasch Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:56:20 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend The police do actually stop vehicles and check for weapons, but they can't stop every motorbike on this island. Gang crime happens all over the world now, also in western countries, sad but true. Most people avoid being confronted with dangerous animals in the wild; they should do the same on the streets. Posted by Nicolas Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:57:32 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Lesson: Don't shout or give the middle finger to a Thai, and especially not a young punk in the company of his friends. So beware of the farang-temper. When mixed with the local ego, it can get you in big, big trouble. May the deceased RIP. Posted by Jens Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:26:27 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Just another reason why my family will not ever visit Phuket. What on earth is going on down there? Posted by Mr. Don Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:52:06 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend The very obvious tuk-tuk banditry on the island has shown the Phuket police to be quite weak. One result of the weakness is that every young hood with an attitude feels free to do whatever he pleases to anyone he likes. They believe, often rightly, that there are no consequences that can't be negotiated away or intimidated out of sight from the limp-wristed arm of the law here. Condolences to Mr Wolf- Dieter's family. Posted by Phuket insider Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:54:40 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Just a few short years ago, things like this were unheard of. Just what is happening to this beautiful island? The levels of violence just keep increasing, yet the authorities don't seem to care enough to get tough on these criminals. Posted by Tom Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:27:01 PM This is a beautiful island still, but for how long? I agree, what is going on? Especially in the south of the island in places like Rawai. Is this to become a no-go area for Westerner? The Thai police don't seem to care very much about serious crime so long as they can continue to raise money through small stuff like traffic fines, etc. It never never used to be like this, and I suspect a lot of the so- called locals are not from Phuket at all. They've come here from other areas of Thailand to share in the 'easy pickings' arising from the heavy presence of foreigners here. Posted by kamala girl Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:56:56 PM Comment on kamala girl's comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Lesson: Don't shout or give the middle finger to a Thai, and especially not a young punk in the company of his friends. So beware of the farang-temper. When mixed with the local ego, it can get you in big, big trouble. May the deceased RIP. Posted by Jens Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:26:27 PM Jens, you are so right. Best to just turn the other cheek and let it pass. Remember you are not home! Posted by Mr Don Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:58:01 PM Comment on Mr Don's comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Respect older people? Land of Smiles? Phuket is clearly not safe anymore. Way too many incidents like this, with too many foreigners hurt or killed during the past few weeks! What do the police in Chalong do, anyway. Do they just check foreigners for helmets and driving licenses? Posted by moskito Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:22:41 PM "What do the police in Chalong do, anyway. Do they just check foreigners for helmets and driving licenses?" This is the quickest way for them to make easy money. Posted by Richard Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:06:23 PM Comment on Richard's comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Every time I read an article like this it makes me happy that I left Phuket nearly two years ago. I lived in Rawai and it was getting pretty bad before we left, and it seems the police still have not got a handle on it. What a shame. May the victim RIP and may the cowardly youths go to jail. Posted by Val Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:19:30 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend This unfortunate man made an ill-advised gesture and paid with his life. But however many of these violent incidents are reported, somehow the Phuket Gazette never manages to properly describe the full circumstances leading up to the act of violence. The articles are full of vagueness and innuendo, instead of facts. In this instance, what time did the incident occur? (The time the police heard about it is of little interest or relevance.) How many witnesses were there? How many stab wounds were inflicted and how deep were they, and where upon his body was the fatal wound? Was the victim traveling alone? Where was he going and coming from? Posted by Bystander Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:39:59 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I was extremely saddened to read of another foreigner killed/murdered in Thailand. I have had several visits to Phuket and other areas of Thailand over the past 20 years, but with the news of killings/murders of foreigners in the recent past I now consider Thailand as an extreme safety risk and plan to take my future vacations in Bali. At least there I am more confident of being able to use my return air ticket. Sad but true. Posted by Aussie Frank Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:40:29 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend This is a clear example of how things are going in Phuket. Driving is now very dangerous, and the police do not patrol the roads, and motorbikes and tuk-tuks are breaking every sort of traffic rule without fear of being arrested. Where is the law? Posted by Tony Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:40:30 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Lesson: Don't shout or give the middle finger to a Thai, and especially not a young punk in the company of his friends. So beware of the farang-temper. When mixed with the local ego, it can get you in big, big trouble. May the deceased RIP. Posted by Jens Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:26:27 PM Jens, you are so right. Best to just turn the other cheek and let it pass. Remember you are not home! Posted by Mr Don Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:58:01 PM Yep, just be a complete coward and never stand up for yourself just because you live in a place or visit a place where little punks carry weapons and gang up on victims and KILL them for something as trivial as a middle finger. Sorry, but I fight back and will continue to fight back. The problem is that these cowards don't mess with anyone other than old men, old ladies and sissies who can't fight. But I can... and will! Posted by Dave Williams Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:40:32 PM Comment on Dave Williams's comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Lesson: Don't shout or give the middle finger to a Thai, and especially not a young punk in the company of his friends. So beware of the farang-temper. When mixed with the local ego, it can get you in big, big trouble. May the deceased RIP. Posted by Jens Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:26:27 PM "Farang temper!" How dare you! These cowards killed a man because they couldn't control their temper. Posted by Dave Williams Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:42:32 PM Comment on Dave Williams's comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend This is not only a Phuket 'thing but a 'Thailand' thing. And I don't agree with the comments saying that the police have to stop checking people for wearing helmets and instead focus on criminals. They have to do both! You still have a greater chance of being killed in a road accident in Phuket than you do of being murdered. Posted by Terry Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:54:03 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I was born here in Phuket and have lived on the way to Ao-Makham Bay for sixty years already. Every time I have had to go to the Chalong, Rawai or Patong areas (such as when we had friends from other places visiting Phuket), I wondered why so many of you like to live or go there. Those places are really the worst for me. Posted by pc Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 9:02:03 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I am retired and have been living for many years with my Thai wife on this ex-wonderful island, which remained a very nice place for living until 4-5 years ago. We've decided to move soon to another province in Thailand, leaving Phuket to its 'authorities', to the gangs, to the scams, to the tuk-tuks, to the salaeng (illegal, but thousands of them anyway), to the jet-skis, to all the vendors and touts (especially in Patong) that jam the sidewalks, etc. Phuket has become just a factory, obviously attracting the worst, but there are so many other provinces in Thailand where life and the people are so nice, and authentic. Pai! ('Let's go', in Thai.) Posted by sm Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:49:31 PM Like yourself, I have lived here on the island with my Thai wife for many years (12). But something happened here about 4-5 years ago and, like yourself, we also see Phuket becoming an incredibly dangerous place to live. We're selling the home and getting out before we too become statistics. The newspapers over the past 5 years are full of reports about someone getting murdered Thais, tourists, expat residents.... Nobody is safe here. Posted by Ian Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 9:04:35 PM Comment on Ian's comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Unfortunately, the police have to accept some responsibility, if not guilt, over the increasing amount of violent crime. Look the difference between Phuket Town and Rawai. Rawai and Chalong are like the Wild West. Nobody wears a helmet; in the night young Thai boys race modified motorbikes very, very fast; and many bars and discos openly ignore the closing time. And the police? They only go around during the day to collect money and arrest farang right IN Chalong Circle, thereby making a total mess of a traffic jam. Do you ever see any kind of check-point during the night? Sometimes the police just stop in front of 7-Eleven and continue to do absolutely nothing there. Posted by dave Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 9:05:46 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend The police need to stop bothering about catching farang without helmets and get out there and attend to more important issues. A good place to start would be to apprehend all these guys who flout the road rules as many incidents are caused through such carelessness as they know the police will do nothing. Posted by Dave Lombardi Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:10:21 PM Farang without helmets are flouting the road rules too! Are you to be apprehended? If you wear your helmet the police might have time for other matters. Posted by Phuket regular Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 9:12:40 PM Comment on Phuket regular's comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Land of smiles. NOT. Posted by lord Jim Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 3:59:40 PM YES. Land of primitive! Posted by James Hair Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 9:21:01 PM Comment on James Hair's comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Someone wrote already in this forum that Rawai is becoming like Patong: many bars with ladies and Katoey, discotheques, lots of alcohol and drugs (believe me). But in Patong there are a lot of police (the majority in plain clothes), and Patong is a place for farang. Rawai is a Thai place and very few police. Why do young thugs and gangsters from Phuket Town come here in the night? Answer: No Law Enforcement! Posted by robert Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 9:28:42 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Add your comment Search Comments Name: |
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German stabbed to Death on PHUKET
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ These Thai dogs are considered as people from the "land of the smile" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "nobody" wrote in message ... German stabbed to death in Phuket RAWAI, PHUKET: A German expat was stabbed to death last night outside a 7-Eleven shop on a busy road in Rawai. The dead man has been identified as 66-year-old Eugen Wolf-Dieter, a resident of Ban Saiyuan in Rawai. Police are on the hunt for three teenage suspects who beat and stabbed Mr Wolf-Dieter before fleeing on a motorbike. From their initial investigations, police said Mr Dieter was driving his Toyota Vigo pick-up south along Chao Fa Road West. As he reached Chalong Circle, a pink Yamaha Fino driving against the flow of traffic suddenly cut across his path and drove onto the Chalong Pier road, just missing Mr Wolf-Dieter's truck, witnesses said. Witnesses said Mr Wolf-Dieter got angry, shouted at the boys and then gave them the middle finger. Chalong Police Duty Officer Anukul Nuket received the report of the stabbing at 7:40pm. The riders got angry, so they had an argument with the German and followed him until he stopped the truck at the scene, he said. A fight ensued during which the German was stabbed in his chest and stomach, he said. The three suspects fled on their bike south toward Rawai Beach. By the time police arrived, rescue workers from Phuket Rumjai Kupai Foundation had already rushed Mr Wolf-Dieter to Vachira Phuket Hospital in Phuket Town, but he died en route. As of 11am today, Chalong Police were still searching for the assailants. Print this story | Send it to a friend Send Letter to Gazette Editor Facebook MySpace Twitter Gazette Reporter Phuket,Thailand 15:46 local time (GMT +7) Comment on this story [There are 44 comments so far.] Land of smiles. NOT. Posted by lord Jim Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 3:59:40 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend What wonderful publicity for Phuket! First the tuk-tuk drivers are beating up tourists and now lawless teens after recklessly driving in front of this man have the audacity to get angry and kill him! Phuket's reputation continues to suffer at the hands of these lawless thugs! The "prisoners are running the jail" in Phuket and if the police do not get this crime fest under control there will be a big price to pay. The police need to stop worrying about collecting 200 baht fines for minor issues and focus on crime prevention. Posted by tommy Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:04:18 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend People get killed in Thailand so easy and no witnesses because we all too afraid to get involved. So everyone just stands there and watches, and after someone is hurt or dead they all say they saw nothing. We need help from the police, and the police also need our help. Stop the Thai moong thing and do something to help! Posted by aussiejoy Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:12:02 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I hope that they'll get these cowards and let them rot in prison. Posted by Islander Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:17:48 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Just a few short years ago, things like this were unheard of. Just what is happening to this beautiful island? The levels of violence just keep increasing, yet the authorities don't seem to care enough to get tough on these criminals. Posted by Tom Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:27:01 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend If the violence continues I will be changing my retirement plans to calmer waters, ike Malaysia. Posted by Scotty Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:35:59 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Too many deaths by stabbing or shooting. Why don't the police stop and search motorbike riders for such weapons? These aren't legal in this country, I suppose, so why not take action in this direction from time to time as a measure of prevention? They'll sure catch some long wanted fish that way! Posted by dieter Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:39:02 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Why do we NEVER hear about a one-on-one fight in Thailand? If Muay Thai is supposedly so awesome (which it's not), why do these cowards always fight with weapons and always with overwhelming odds? This is pathetic. It's a mess in Thailand now. Posted by Dave Williams Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:59:39 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend The police need to stop bothering about catching farang without helmets and get out there and attend to more important issues. A good place to start would be to apprehend all these guys who flout the road rules as many incidents are caused through such carelessness as they know the police will do nothing. Posted by Dave Lombardi Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:10:21 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Let's hope for real justice. Long sentences might prevent further deaths Posted by john webb Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:20:06 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I am saddened by this latest tragedy. Phuket is becoming a very unsafe place to be. I agree that if something is not done soon there will be a price to pay. Right now it's the foreigners paying the price with there lives. I hope these thugs, or should I say cowards, are caught and dealt with severely. They should receive the same treatment they dished out. Posted by rg Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:21:46 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Respect older people? Land of Smiles? Phuket is clearly not safe anymore. Way too many incidents like this, with too many foreigners hurt or killed during the past few weeks! What do the police in Chalong do, anyway. Do they just check foreigners for helmets and driving licenses? Posted by moskito Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:22:41 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Did not anybody tell this German that it is the god-given right of young Thais to drive wherever they wish? The police are not teaching them and neither are their parents. And to give them the finger salute is a big mistake! Posted by Guenter Bellach Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:42:48 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I don't think that you can expect Chalong police to 'just happen' to be at the exact place at the at exact time of a murder. It doesn't happen with any other police force, in any other place on the planet! This is a social problem, linked to poverty and education, just like the steep rise in knife crime in Europe. Remember that place? Posted by Jon Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:46:19 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I'm not surprised that it happens in Rawai. Rawai, Chalong, Kata and Karon are unsafe areas because the police have been quite there over the past few years. Posted by Satip Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:49:06 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I am retired and have been living for many years with my Thai wife on this ex-wonderful island, which remained a very nice place for living until 4-5 years ago. We've decided to move soon to another province in Thailand, leaving Phuket to its 'authorities', to the gangs, to the scams, to the tuk-tuks, to the salaeng (illegal, but thousands of them anyway), to the jet-skis, to all the vendors and touts (especially in Patong) that jam the sidewalks, etc. Phuket has become just a factory, obviously attracting the worst, but there are so many other provinces in Thailand where life and the people are so nice, and authentic. Pai! ('Let's go', in Thai.) Posted by sm Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:49:31 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Don't get me wrong; I'm 100% against this type of violent behavior. This type of 'road rage' is insane and should not be tolerated by any society. But how hard is it to understand that you do NOT give the finger in this country? While it is not acceptable behavior even in Europe, it is an extreme personal insult in Thai society. Not long ago on this site there was another report of a German giving the finger in traffic. He, too, ended up dead on the site, by shooting in that particular incident. Posted by Michael Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:06:00 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend It seems the local authorities don't have the skill or the will to crack down on the HUGE number of murders here on Phuket. Posted by Concerned Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:24:56 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Welcome to the land of: "Of course you can kill and get away with it as long as you wear a helmet while riding your motorbike". Posted by olov hallberg Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:30:55 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend 1. How did the witnesses see him flip the finger to the guy? Who were they? They saw the German get angry and followed him to where he was stabbed? Or some random people came forward and just said they saw this as they put 2 and 2 together. Looks like the police are trying to 'justify' it. 2. Who said these things never happened before? They did; they are just reported more I think. Four years ago someone tried to attack me on my bike. This was at 3pm in Kata 5. All these expensive villas in Rawai and the unsuspecting investors don't realize the area is infested with killers and thieves. I'll bet they'll arrest the perpetrators of this murder and let them out the same day. LIke the tuk-tuk driver. Where is he now? Posted by Vfaye Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:41:04 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend This is just one in a long, long stream of crimes against foreigners over the past couple of years. Thailand is no longer safe. Every farang who dreams about retirement in Thailand should give that idea a second thought. Posted by gunnar Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:46:11 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Just a thought... not trying to justify this, but isn't giving the middle finger issuing a challenge? After which we'd better be damn sure we can back up? Posted by Just a thought ... Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:48:29 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Seems to me this sort of thing happens all too often. Then a few days later it's forgotten by all except those who knew the victim. It also seems to me that a fund to offer a reward/incentive to the police to catch and prosecute the guilty might help. If everyone living here that gave a damn chipped in at least a few hundred baht it might add up to enough to make a difference. Just need someone trustworthy to hold the funds! Posted by Stuart Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:52:03 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Phuket pays his bill already. Less tourists every year and a big decline in quality. Only low-key people arrive. They do not spend much and avoid high paying venues. That is one result of non-protection of foreign tourists by the Thai government. But the rapidly rising crime rate is only one of the many developments that have conspired to destroy Phuket as a tourist destination. Posted by Peter Czasch Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:56:20 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend The police do actually stop vehicles and check for weapons, but they can't stop every motorbike on this island. Gang crime happens all over the world now, also in western countries, sad but true. Most people avoid being confronted with dangerous animals in the wild; they should do the same on the streets. Posted by Nicolas Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:57:32 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Lesson: Don't shout or give the middle finger to a Thai, and especially not a young punk in the company of his friends. So beware of the farang-temper. When mixed with the local ego, it can get you in big, big trouble. May the deceased RIP. Posted by Jens Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:26:27 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Just another reason why my family will not ever visit Phuket. What on earth is going on down there? Posted by Mr. Don Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:52:06 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend The very obvious tuk-tuk banditry on the island has shown the Phuket police to be quite weak. One result of the weakness is that every young hood with an attitude feels free to do whatever he pleases to anyone he likes. They believe, often rightly, that there are no consequences that can't be negotiated away or intimidated out of sight from the limp-wristed arm of the law here. Condolences to Mr Wolf- Dieter's family. Posted by Phuket insider Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:54:40 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Just a few short years ago, things like this were unheard of. Just what is happening to this beautiful island? The levels of violence just keep increasing, yet the authorities don't seem to care enough to get tough on these criminals. Posted by Tom Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:27:01 PM This is a beautiful island still, but for how long? I agree, what is going on? Especially in the south of the island in places like Rawai. Is this to become a no-go area for Westerner? The Thai police don't seem to care very much about serious crime so long as they can continue to raise money through small stuff like traffic fines, etc. It never never used to be like this, and I suspect a lot of the so- called locals are not from Phuket at all. They've come here from other areas of Thailand to share in the 'easy pickings' arising from the heavy presence of foreigners here. Posted by kamala girl Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:56:56 PM Comment on kamala girl's comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Lesson: Don't shout or give the middle finger to a Thai, and especially not a young punk in the company of his friends. So beware of the farang-temper. When mixed with the local ego, it can get you in big, big trouble. May the deceased RIP. Posted by Jens Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:26:27 PM Jens, you are so right. Best to just turn the other cheek and let it pass. Remember you are not home! Posted by Mr Don Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:58:01 PM Comment on Mr Don's comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Respect older people? Land of Smiles? Phuket is clearly not safe anymore. Way too many incidents like this, with too many foreigners hurt or killed during the past few weeks! What do the police in Chalong do, anyway. Do they just check foreigners for helmets and driving licenses? Posted by moskito Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:22:41 PM "What do the police in Chalong do, anyway. Do they just check foreigners for helmets and driving licenses?" This is the quickest way for them to make easy money. Posted by Richard Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:06:23 PM Comment on Richard's comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Every time I read an article like this it makes me happy that I left Phuket nearly two years ago. I lived in Rawai and it was getting pretty bad before we left, and it seems the police still have not got a handle on it. What a shame. May the victim RIP and may the cowardly youths go to jail. Posted by Val Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:19:30 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend This unfortunate man made an ill-advised gesture and paid with his life. But however many of these violent incidents are reported, somehow the Phuket Gazette never manages to properly describe the full circumstances leading up to the act of violence. The articles are full of vagueness and innuendo, instead of facts. In this instance, what time did the incident occur? (The time the police heard about it is of little interest or relevance.) How many witnesses were there? How many stab wounds were inflicted and how deep were they, and where upon his body was the fatal wound? Was the victim traveling alone? Where was he going and coming from? Posted by Bystander Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:39:59 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I was extremely saddened to read of another foreigner killed/murdered in Thailand. I have had several visits to Phuket and other areas of Thailand over the past 20 years, but with the news of killings/murders of foreigners in the recent past I now consider Thailand as an extreme safety risk and plan to take my future vacations in Bali. At least there I am more confident of being able to use my return air ticket. Sad but true. Posted by Aussie Frank Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:40:29 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend This is a clear example of how things are going in Phuket. Driving is now very dangerous, and the police do not patrol the roads, and motorbikes and tuk-tuks are breaking every sort of traffic rule without fear of being arrested. Where is the law? Posted by Tony Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:40:30 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Lesson: Don't shout or give the middle finger to a Thai, and especially not a young punk in the company of his friends. So beware of the farang-temper. When mixed with the local ego, it can get you in big, big trouble. May the deceased RIP. Posted by Jens Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:26:27 PM Jens, you are so right. Best to just turn the other cheek and let it pass. Remember you are not home! Posted by Mr Don Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:58:01 PM Yep, just be a complete coward and never stand up for yourself just because you live in a place or visit a place where little punks carry weapons and gang up on victims and KILL them for something as trivial as a middle finger. Sorry, but I fight back and will continue to fight back. The problem is that these cowards don't mess with anyone other than old men, old ladies and sissies who can't fight. But I can... and will! Posted by Dave Williams Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:40:32 PM Comment on Dave Williams's comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Lesson: Don't shout or give the middle finger to a Thai, and especially not a young punk in the company of his friends. So beware of the farang-temper. When mixed with the local ego, it can get you in big, big trouble. May the deceased RIP. Posted by Jens Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 7:26:27 PM "Farang temper!" How dare you! These cowards killed a man because they couldn't control their temper. Posted by Dave Williams Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:42:32 PM Comment on Dave Williams's comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend This is not only a Phuket 'thing but a 'Thailand' thing. And I don't agree with the comments saying that the police have to stop checking people for wearing helmets and instead focus on criminals. They have to do both! You still have a greater chance of being killed in a road accident in Phuket than you do of being murdered. Posted by Terry Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 8:54:03 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I was born here in Phuket and have lived on the way to Ao-Makham Bay for sixty years already. Every time I have had to go to the Chalong, Rawai or Patong areas (such as when we had friends from other places visiting Phuket), I wondered why so many of you like to live or go there. Those places are really the worst for me. Posted by pc Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 9:02:03 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I am retired and have been living for many years with my Thai wife on this ex-wonderful island, which remained a very nice place for living until 4-5 years ago. We've decided to move soon to another province in Thailand, leaving Phuket to its 'authorities', to the gangs, to the scams, to the tuk-tuks, to the salaeng (illegal, but thousands of them anyway), to the jet-skis, to all the vendors and touts (especially in Patong) that jam the sidewalks, etc. Phuket has become just a factory, obviously attracting the worst, but there are so many other provinces in Thailand where life and the people are so nice, and authentic. Pai! ('Let's go', in Thai.) Posted by sm Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:49:31 PM Like yourself, I have lived here on the island with my Thai wife for many years (12). But something happened here about 4-5 years ago and, like yourself, we also see Phuket becoming an incredibly dangerous place to live. We're selling the home and getting out before we too become statistics. The newspapers over the past 5 years are full of reports about someone getting murdered Thais, tourists, expat residents.... Nobody is safe here. Posted by Ian Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 9:04:35 PM Comment on Ian's comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Unfortunately, the police have to accept some responsibility, if not guilt, over the increasing amount of violent crime. Look the difference between Phuket Town and Rawai. Rawai and Chalong are like the Wild West. Nobody wears a helmet; in the night young Thai boys race modified motorbikes very, very fast; and many bars and discos openly ignore the closing time. And the police? They only go around during the day to collect money and arrest farang right IN Chalong Circle, thereby making a total mess of a traffic jam. Do you ever see any kind of check-point during the night? Sometimes the police just stop in front of 7-Eleven and continue to do absolutely nothing there. Posted by dave Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 9:05:46 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend The police need to stop bothering about catching farang without helmets and get out there and attend to more important issues. A good place to start would be to apprehend all these guys who flout the road rules as many incidents are caused through such carelessness as they know the police will do nothing. Posted by Dave Lombardi Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:10:21 PM Farang without helmets are flouting the road rules too! Are you to be apprehended? If you wear your helmet the police might have time for other matters. Posted by Phuket regular Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 9:12:40 PM Comment on Phuket regular's comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Land of smiles. NOT. Posted by lord Jim Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 3:59:40 PM YES. Land of primitive! Posted by James Hair Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 9:21:01 PM Comment on James Hair's comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Someone wrote already in this forum that Rawai is becoming like Patong: many bars with ladies and Katoey, discotheques, lots of alcohol and drugs (believe me). But in Patong there are a lot of police (the majority in plain clothes), and Patong is a place for farang. Rawai is a Thai place and very few police. Why do young thugs and gangsters from Phuket Town come here in the night? Answer: No Law Enforcement! Posted by robert Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 9:28:42 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Add your comment Search Comments Name: |
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tourists ? n Jan 28, 9:42*am, "Alexx" wrote: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ These Thai dogs are considered as people from the "land of the smile" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "nobody" wrote in message ... German stabbed to death in Phuket RAWAI, PHUKET: A German expat was stabbed to death last night outside a 7-Eleven shop on a busy road in Rawai. The dead man has been identified as 66-year-old Eugen Wolf-Dieter, a resident of Ban Saiyuan in Rawai. Police are on the hunt for three teenage suspects who beat and stabbed Mr Wolf-Dieter before fleeing on a motorbike. From their initial investigations, police said Mr Dieter was driving his Toyota Vigo pick-up south along Chao Fa Road West. As he reached Chalong Circle, a pink Yamaha Fino driving against the flow of traffic suddenly cut across his path and drove onto the Chalong Pier road, just missing Mr Wolf-Dieter's truck, witnesses said. Witnesses said Mr Wolf-Dieter got angry, shouted at the boys and then gave them the middle finger. Chalong Police Duty Officer Anukul Nuket received the report of the stabbing at 7:40pm. The riders got angry, so they had an argument with the German and followed him until he stopped the truck at the scene, he said. A fight ensued during which the German was stabbed in his chest and stomach, he said. The three suspects fled on their bike south toward Rawai Beach. By the time police arrived, rescue workers from Phuket Rumjai Kupai Foundation had already rushed Mr Wolf-Dieter to Vachira Phuket Hospital in Phuket Town, but he died en route. As of 11am today, Chalong Police were still searching for the assailants. Print this story | Send it to a friend Send Letter to Gazette Editor Facebook MySpace Twitter Gazette Reporter Phuket,Thailand 15:46 local time (GMT +7) Comment on this story *[There are 44 comments so far.] Land of smiles. NOT. *Posted by lord Jim Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 3:59:40 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend What wonderful publicity for Phuket! First the tuk-tuk drivers are beating up tourists and now lawless teens after recklessly driving in front of this man have the audacity to get angry and kill him! Phuket's reputation continues to suffer at the hands of these lawless thugs! The "prisoners are running the jail" in Phuket and if the police do not get this crime fest under control there will be a big price to pay. The police need to stop worrying about collecting 200 baht fines for minor issues and focus on crime prevention. *Posted by tommy Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:04:18 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend People get killed in Thailand so easy and no witnesses because we all too afraid to get involved. So everyone just stands there and watches, and after someone is hurt or dead they all say they saw nothing. We need help from the police, and the police also need our help. Stop the Thai moong thing and do something to help! *Posted by aussiejoy Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:12:02 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I hope that they'll get these cowards and let them rot in prison. *Posted by Islander Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:17:48 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Just a few short years ago, things like this were unheard of. Just what is happening to this beautiful island? The levels of violence just keep increasing, yet the authorities don't seem to care enough to get tough on these criminals. *Posted by Tom Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:27:01 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend If the violence continues I will be changing my retirement plans to calmer waters, ike Malaysia. *Posted by Scotty Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:35:59 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Too many deaths by stabbing or shooting. Why don't the police stop and search motorbike riders for such weapons? These aren't legal in this country, I suppose, so why not take action in this direction from time to time as a measure of prevention? They'll sure catch some long wanted fish that way! *Posted by dieter Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:39:02 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Why do we NEVER hear about a one-on-one fight in Thailand? If Muay Thai is supposedly so awesome (which it's not), why do these cowards always fight with weapons and always with overwhelming odds? This is pathetic. It's a mess in Thailand now. *Posted by Dave Williams Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:59:39 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend The police need to stop bothering about catching farang without helmets and get out there and attend to more important issues. A good place to start would be to apprehend all these guys who flout the road rules as many incidents are caused through such carelessness as they know the police will do nothing. *Posted by Dave Lombardi Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:10:21 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Let's hope for real justice. Long sentences might prevent further deaths *Posted by john webb Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:20:06 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I am saddened by this latest tragedy. Phuket is becoming a very unsafe place to be. I agree that if something is not done soon there will be a price to pay. Right now it's the foreigners paying the price with there lives. I hope these thugs, or should I say cowards, are caught and dealt with severely. They should receive the same treatment they dished out. *Posted by rg Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:21:46 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Respect older people? Land of Smiles? Phuket is clearly not safe anymore. Way too many incidents like this, with too many foreigners hurt or killed during the past few weeks! What do the police in Chalong do, anyway. Do they just check foreigners for helmets and driving licenses? *Posted by moskito Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:22:41 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Did not anybody tell this German that it is the god-given right of young Thais to drive wherever they wish? The police are not teaching them and neither are their parents. And to give them the finger salute is a big mistake! *Posted by Guenter Bellach Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:42:48 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I don't think that you can expect Chalong police to 'just happen' to be at the exact place at the at exact time of a murder. It doesn't happen with any other police force, in any other place on the planet! This is a social problem, linked to poverty and education, just like the steep rise in knife crime in Europe. Remember that place? *Posted by Jon Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:46:19 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I'm not surprised that it happens in Rawai. Rawai, Chalong, Kata and Karon are unsafe areas because the police have been quite there over the past few years. *Posted by Satip Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:49:06 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I am retired and have been living for many years with my Thai wife on this ex-wonderful island, which remained a very nice place for living until 4-5 years ago. We've decided to move soon to another province in Thailand, leaving Phuket to its 'authorities', to the gangs, to the scams, to the tuk-tuks, to the salaeng (illegal, but thousands of them anyway), to the jet-skis, to all the vendors and touts (especially in Patong) that jam the sidewalks, etc. Phuket has become just a factory, obviously attracting the worst, but there are so many other provinces in Thailand where life and the people are so nice, and authentic. Pai! ('Let's go', in Thai.) *Posted by sm Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:49:31 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Don't get me wrong; I'm 100% against this type of violent behavior. This type of 'road rage' is insane and should not be tolerated by any society. But how hard is it to understand that you do NOT give the finger in this country? While it is not acceptable behavior even in Europe, it is an extreme personal insult in Thai society. Not long ago on this site there was another report of a German giving the finger in traffic. He, too, ended up dead on the site, by shooting in that particular incident. *Posted by Michael Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:06:00 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend It seems the local authorities don't have the skill or the will to crack down on the HUGE number of murders here on Phuket. *Posted by Concerned Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:24:56 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Welcome to the land of: "Of course you can kill and get away with it as long as you wear a helmet while riding your motorbike". *Posted by olov hallberg Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:30:55 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend 1. How did the witnesses see him flip the finger to the guy? Who were they? They saw the German get angry and followed him to where he was stabbed? Or some random people came forward and just said they saw this as they put 2 and 2 together. Looks like the police are trying to 'justify' it. 2. Who said these things never happened before? They did; they are just reported more I think. Four years ago someone tried to attack me on my bike. This was at 3pm in Kata 5. All these expensive villas in Rawai and the unsuspecting investors don't realize the area is infested with killers and thieves. I'll bet they'll arrest the perpetrators of this murder and let them out the same day. LIke the tuk-tuk driver. Where is he now? *Posted by Vfaye Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - ... read more » |
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On Jan 29, 8:45*am, the Black LEARN GA kock of the ****ing Boudha THIEF wrote: is *Thailand *still *more *safe *than *Malaysia *for *foreign tourists * *? THIEF n Jan 28, 9:42*am, "Alexx" wrote: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ These Thai dogs are considered as people from the "land of the smile" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "nobody" wrote in message ... German stabbed to death in Phuket RAWAI, PHUKET: A German expat was stabbed to death last night outside a 7-Eleven shop on a busy road in Rawai. The dead man has been identified as 66-year-old Eugen Wolf-Dieter, a resident of Ban Saiyuan in Rawai. Police are on the hunt for three teenage suspects who beat and stabbed Mr Wolf-Dieter before fleeing on a motorbike. From their initial investigations, police said Mr Dieter was driving his Toyota Vigo pick-up south along Chao Fa Road West. As he reached Chalong Circle, a pink Yamaha Fino driving against the flow of traffic suddenly cut across his path and drove onto the Chalong Pier road, just missing Mr Wolf-Dieter's truck, witnesses said. Witnesses said Mr Wolf-Dieter got angry, shouted at the boys and then gave them the middle finger. Chalong Police Duty Officer Anukul Nuket received the report of the stabbing at 7:40pm. The riders got angry, so they had an argument with the German and followed him until he stopped the truck at the scene, he said. A fight ensued during which the German was stabbed in his chest and stomach, he said. The three suspects fled on their bike south toward Rawai Beach. By the time police arrived, rescue workers from Phuket Rumjai Kupai Foundation had already rushed Mr Wolf-Dieter to Vachira Phuket Hospital in Phuket Town, but he died en route. As of 11am today, Chalong Police were still searching for the assailants. Print this story | Send it to a friend Send Letter to Gazette Editor Facebook MySpace Twitter Gazette Reporter Phuket,Thailand 15:46 local time (GMT +7) Comment on this story *[There are 44 comments so far.] Land of smiles. NOT. *Posted by lord Jim Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 3:59:40 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend What wonderful publicity for Phuket! First the tuk-tuk drivers are beating up tourists and now lawless teens after recklessly driving in front of this man have the audacity to get angry and kill him! Phuket's reputation continues to suffer at the hands of these lawless thugs! The "prisoners are running the jail" in Phuket and if the police do not get this crime fest under control there will be a big price to pay. The police need to stop worrying about collecting 200 baht fines for minor issues and focus on crime prevention. *Posted by tommy Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:04:18 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend People get killed in Thailand so easy and no witnesses because we all too afraid to get involved. So everyone just stands there and watches, and after someone is hurt or dead they all say they saw nothing. We need help from the police, and the police also need our help. Stop the Thai moong thing and do something to help! *Posted by aussiejoy Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:12:02 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I hope that they'll get these cowards and let them rot in prison. *Posted by Islander Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:17:48 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Just a few short years ago, things like this were unheard of. Just what is happening to this beautiful island? The levels of violence just keep increasing, yet the authorities don't seem to care enough to get tough on these criminals. *Posted by Tom Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:27:01 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend If the violence continues I will be changing my retirement plans to calmer waters, ike Malaysia. *Posted by Scotty Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:35:59 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Too many deaths by stabbing or shooting. Why don't the police stop and search motorbike riders for such weapons? These aren't legal in this country, I suppose, so why not take action in this direction from time to time as a measure of prevention? They'll sure catch some long wanted fish that way! *Posted by dieter Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:39:02 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Why do we NEVER hear about a one-on-one fight in Thailand? If Muay Thai is supposedly so awesome (which it's not), why do these cowards always fight with weapons and always with overwhelming odds? This is pathetic. It's a mess in Thailand now. *Posted by Dave Williams Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:59:39 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend The police need to stop bothering about catching farang without helmets and get out there and attend to more important issues. A good place to start would be to apprehend all these guys who flout the road rules as many incidents are caused through such carelessness as they know the police will do nothing. *Posted by Dave Lombardi Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:10:21 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Let's hope for real justice. Long sentences might prevent further deaths *Posted by john webb Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:20:06 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I am saddened by this latest tragedy. Phuket is becoming a very unsafe place to be. I agree that if something is not done soon there will be a price to pay. Right now it's the foreigners paying the price with there lives. I hope these thugs, or should I say cowards, are caught and dealt with severely. They should receive the same treatment they dished out. *Posted by rg Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:21:46 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Respect older people? Land of Smiles? Phuket is clearly not safe anymore. Way too many incidents like this, with too many foreigners hurt or killed during the past few weeks! What do the police in Chalong do, anyway. Do they just check foreigners for helmets and driving licenses? *Posted by moskito Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:22:41 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Did not anybody tell this German that it is the god-given right of young Thais to drive wherever they wish? The police are not teaching them and neither are their parents. And to give them the finger salute is a big mistake! *Posted by Guenter Bellach Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:42:48 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I don't think that you can expect Chalong police to 'just happen' to be at the exact place at the at exact time of a murder. It doesn't happen with any other police force, in any other place on the planet! This is a social problem, linked to poverty and education, just like the steep rise in knife crime in Europe. Remember that place? *Posted by Jon Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:46:19 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I'm not surprised that it happens in Rawai. Rawai, Chalong, Kata and Karon are unsafe areas because the police have been quite there over the past few years. *Posted by Satip Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:49:06 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I am retired and have been living for many years with my Thai wife on this ex-wonderful island, which remained a very nice place for living until 4-5 years ago. We've decided to move soon to another province in Thailand, leaving Phuket to its 'authorities', to the gangs, to the scams, to the tuk-tuks, to the salaeng (illegal, but thousands of them anyway), to the jet-skis, to all the vendors and touts (especially in Patong) that jam the sidewalks, etc. Phuket has become just a factory, obviously attracting the worst, but there are so many other provinces in Thailand where life and the people are so nice, and authentic. Pai! ('Let's go', in Thai.) *Posted by sm Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:49:31 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Don't get me wrong; I'm 100% against this type of violent behavior. This type of 'road rage' is insane and should not be tolerated by any society. But how hard is it to understand that you do NOT give the finger in this country? While it is not acceptable behavior even in Europe, it is an extreme personal insult in Thai society. Not long ago on this site there was another report of a German giving the finger in traffic. He, too, ended up dead on the site, by shooting in that particular incident. *Posted by Michael Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:06:00 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend It seems the local authorities don't have the skill or the will to crack down on the HUGE number of murders here on Phuket. *Posted by Concerned Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:24:56 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Welcome to the land of: "Of course you can kill and get away with it as long as you wear a helmet while riding your motorbike". *Posted by olov hallberg Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:30:55 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend 1. How did the witnesses see him flip the finger to the guy? Who were they? They saw the German get angry and followed him to where he was stabbed? Or some random people came forward ... read more »- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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you should be careful with this wakalukong
because wakalukong is faking to be a " Chinese native " of ASEAN . Jan 29, 11:41*am, Wakalukong wrote: THIEF On Jan 29, 8:45*am, the Black *LEARN GA *kock *of the *****ing Boudha THIEF wrote: is *Thailand *still *more *safe *than *Malaysia *for *foreign tourists * *? THIEF n Jan 28, 9:42*am, "Alexx" wrote: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ These Thai dogs are considered as people from the "land of the smile" ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ "nobody" wrote in message .... German stabbed to death in Phuket RAWAI, PHUKET: A German expat was stabbed to death last night outside a 7-Eleven shop on a busy road in Rawai. The dead man has been identified as 66-year-old Eugen Wolf-Dieter, a resident of Ban Saiyuan in Rawai. Police are on the hunt for three teenage suspects who beat and stabbed Mr Wolf-Dieter before fleeing on a motorbike. From their initial investigations, police said Mr Dieter was driving his Toyota Vigo pick-up south along Chao Fa Road West. As he reached Chalong Circle, a pink Yamaha Fino driving against the flow of traffic suddenly cut across his path and drove onto the Chalong Pier road, just missing Mr Wolf-Dieter's truck, witnesses said. Witnesses said Mr Wolf-Dieter got angry, shouted at the boys and then gave them the middle finger. Chalong Police Duty Officer Anukul Nuket received the report of the stabbing at 7:40pm. The riders got angry, so they had an argument with the German and followed him until he stopped the truck at the scene, he said. A fight ensued during which the German was stabbed in his chest and stomach, he said. The three suspects fled on their bike south toward Rawai Beach. By the time police arrived, rescue workers from Phuket Rumjai Kupai Foundation had already rushed Mr Wolf-Dieter to Vachira Phuket Hospital in Phuket Town, but he died en route. As of 11am today, Chalong Police were still searching for the assailants. Print this story | Send it to a friend Send Letter to Gazette Editor Facebook MySpace Twitter Gazette Reporter Phuket,Thailand 15:46 local time (GMT +7) Comment on this story *[There are 44 comments so far.] Land of smiles. NOT. *Posted by lord Jim Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 3:59:40 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend What wonderful publicity for Phuket! First the tuk-tuk drivers are beating up tourists and now lawless teens after recklessly driving in front of this man have the audacity to get angry and kill him! Phuket's reputation continues to suffer at the hands of these lawless thugs! The "prisoners are running the jail" in Phuket and if the police do not get this crime fest under control there will be a big price to pay. The police need to stop worrying about collecting 200 baht fines for minor issues and focus on crime prevention. *Posted by tommy Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:04:18 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend People get killed in Thailand so easy and no witnesses because we all too afraid to get involved. So everyone just stands there and watches, and after someone is hurt or dead they all say they saw nothing. We need help from the police, and the police also need our help. Stop the Thai moong thing and do something to help! *Posted by aussiejoy Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:12:02 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I hope that they'll get these cowards and let them rot in prison. *Posted by Islander Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:17:48 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Just a few short years ago, things like this were unheard of. Just what is happening to this beautiful island? The levels of violence just keep increasing, yet the authorities don't seem to care enough to get tough on these criminals. *Posted by Tom Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:27:01 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend If the violence continues I will be changing my retirement plans to calmer waters, ike Malaysia. *Posted by Scotty Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:35:59 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Too many deaths by stabbing or shooting. Why don't the police stop and search motorbike riders for such weapons? These aren't legal in this country, I suppose, so why not take action in this direction from time to time as a measure of prevention? They'll sure catch some long wanted fish that way! *Posted by dieter Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:39:02 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Why do we NEVER hear about a one-on-one fight in Thailand? If Muay Thai is supposedly so awesome (which it's not), why do these cowards always fight with weapons and always with overwhelming odds? This is pathetic. It's a mess in Thailand now. *Posted by Dave Williams Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 4:59:39 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend The police need to stop bothering about catching farang without helmets and get out there and attend to more important issues. A good place to start would be to apprehend all these guys who flout the road rules as many incidents are caused through such carelessness as they know the police will do nothing. *Posted by Dave Lombardi Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:10:21 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Let's hope for real justice. Long sentences might prevent further deaths *Posted by john webb Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:20:06 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I am saddened by this latest tragedy. Phuket is becoming a very unsafe place to be. I agree that if something is not done soon there will be a price to pay. Right now it's the foreigners paying the price with there lives. I hope these thugs, or should I say cowards, are caught and dealt with severely. They should receive the same treatment they dished out. *Posted by rg Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:21:46 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Respect older people? Land of Smiles? Phuket is clearly not safe anymore. Way too many incidents like this, with too many foreigners hurt or killed during the past few weeks! What do the police in Chalong do, anyway. Do they just check foreigners for helmets and driving licenses? *Posted by moskito Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:22:41 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Did not anybody tell this German that it is the god-given right of young Thais to drive wherever they wish? The police are not teaching them and neither are their parents. And to give them the finger salute is a big mistake! *Posted by Guenter Bellach Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:42:48 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I don't think that you can expect Chalong police to 'just happen' to be at the exact place at the at exact time of a murder. It doesn't happen with any other police force, in any other place on the planet! This is a social problem, linked to poverty and education, just like the steep rise in knife crime in Europe. Remember that place? *Posted by Jon Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:46:19 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I'm not surprised that it happens in Rawai. Rawai, Chalong, Kata and Karon are unsafe areas because the police have been quite there over the past few years. *Posted by Satip Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:49:06 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend I am retired and have been living for many years with my Thai wife on this ex-wonderful island, which remained a very nice place for living until 4-5 years ago. We've decided to move soon to another province in Thailand, leaving Phuket to its 'authorities', to the gangs, to the scams, to the tuk-tuks, to the salaeng (illegal, but thousands of them anyway), to the jet-skis, to all the vendors and touts (especially in Patong) that jam the sidewalks, etc. Phuket has become just a factory, obviously attracting the worst, but there are so many other provinces in Thailand where life and the people are so nice, and authentic. Pai! ('Let's go', in Thai.) *Posted by sm Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 5:49:31 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend Don't get me wrong; I'm 100% against this type of violent behavior. This type of 'road rage' is insane and should not be tolerated by any society. But how hard is it to understand that you do NOT give the finger in this country? While it is not acceptable behavior even in Europe, it is an extreme personal insult in Thai society. Not long ago on this site there was another report of a German giving the finger in traffic. He, too, ended up dead on the site, by shooting in that particular incident. *Posted by Michael Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:06:00 PM Comment on this comment Comment on this story Send this post to a friend It seems the local authorities don't have the skill or the will to crack down on the HUGE number of murders here on Phuket. *Posted by Concerned Thu, Jan 28, 2010 - 6:24:56 PM Comment ... read more » |
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wrote: you *should be careful *with this *wakalukong *because wakalukong is *faking to be a *" *Chinese native *" *of *ASEAN . (snip) ----------- Hymen aka Thief Komin, prove that Sun Yat Sen was a fake doctor, as claimed by you. Hahahaha! Wakalukong |
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wakalukong, you should give more respect to the ****ing Budha .
the Budha ****ed like me when the Budha was still young, so you should respect the Budha ., n Jan 29, 1:29*pm, Wakalukong wrote: On Jan 29, 2:03*pm, "Hatjman Hunsen , mafia *Boss *of wrote: you *should be careful *with this *wakalukong *because wakalukong is *faking to be a *" *Chinese native *" *of *ASEAN . (snip) ----------- Hymen aka Thief Komin, prove that Sun Yat Sen was a fake doctor, as claimed by you. *Hahahaha! Wakalukong |
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On Jan 30, 9:36*am, "Thief Komin, expert ****er of hole on wall"
wrote: wakalukong, you should *give more *respect to the ****ing *Budha . the *Budha * ****ed *like *me when the *Budha was *still young, so you should *respect the *Budha ., (snip) ---------- After your tearful confession that you knew next to nothing about Malaysia (after years of pretending to be an expert), you're fit only to drill walls. Wakalukong |
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wakalukong , so are you an expert on Malaysia ?
how do you decide who is an expert on Malaysia ? wakalukong , are you from Malaysia ? how come you know so much about Malaysia ? n Jan 30, 8:56*am, Wakalukong wrote: On Jan 30, 9:36*am, "Thief Komin, expert ****er of *hole on wrote: wakalukong, you should *give more *respect to the ****ing *Budha .. the *Budha * ****ed *like *me when the *Budha was *still young, so you should *respect the *Budha ., (snip) ---------- After your tearful confession that you knew next to nothing about Malaysia (after years of pretending to be an expert), you're fit only to drill walls. Wakalukong |
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On Jan 30, 7:37*pm, "Allah , your only god Allah , you are only
allowed to have me as your only God , you are only authorised to have Allah as your only God ." wrote: wakalukong , so *are you *an expert on Malaysia ? how *do *you *decide *who is *an *expert on *Malaysia ? wakalukong , *are *you *from *Malaysia ? how *come you *know *so *much *about *Malaysia ? (snip) ------------ How come I know so much about Malaysia? Moron, if you need to ask this question your knowledge of Malaysia and Singapore is zero. Go drill a wall, liar. Wakalukong |
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