Don't Buy a Timeshare

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Then again, there are those of us who realize that the "lifetime" of some
such schemes can be only a few years or less. Again, caveat emptor. KM

We've been in business since 1986. How long has your business been
alive?


First of all, I don't know that your company HAS been in business since
1986 - I've never heard of it. Just because the company has been in
business since 1986, doesn't mean it's been selling that product since 1986.
And a Google search reveals that Global Resorts Network, LLC (a name that's
a copycat knock-off of the older Global Resorts, Inc.) And if it has been
selling that product since 1986, howcum nobody's heard of it? Or do you take
personal credit for helping to keep it obscure? ;-) Now to answer your
question, (How long has my business been alive?) AT&T have been around since
1875. (And yes, I know that wasn't its original name.) That's longer than
being around since 1986 and your company is barely old enough or almost old
enough to drink liquor in most U.S. states. Not all that impressive to me.
But, at least your petty bickering is helping to tarnish the very image you
wish to burnish. No telling how many people you've already alienated.
Think of it as a $1,000 per person you won't be getting from the $3,000 they
pay upfront. It all started with your bashing the timeshare business
(negativity) instead of posting a positive image by telling us what your
oh-so-old company has to offer, if anything. But, I guess negative people
want everyone else to be negative, so they spread negativity even if it
costs them a thousand dollars a whack. Misery loves company and all that
rot. Keep up the good work - there are a lot more remaining people out there
to alienate. KM
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On May 6, 1:34 am, "Alohacyberian" wrote:
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Then again, there are those of us who realize that the "lifetime" of some
such schemes can be only a few years or less. Again, caveat emptor. KM

We've been in business since 1986. How long has your business been
alive?

First of all, I don't know that your company HAS been in business since
1986 - I've never heard of it. Just because the company has been in
business since 1986, doesn't mean it's been selling that product since 1986.
And a Google search reveals that Global Resorts Network, LLC (a name that's
a copycat knock-off of the older Global Resorts, Inc.) And if it has been
selling that product since 1986, howcum nobody's heard of it? Or do you take
personal credit for helping to keep it obscure? ;-) Now to answer your
question, (How long has my business been alive?) AT&T have been around since
1875. (And yes, I know that wasn't its original name.) That's longer than
being around since 1986 and your company is barely old enough or almost old
enough to drink liquor in most U.S. states. Not all that impressive to me.
But, at least your petty bickering is helping to tarnish the very image you
wish to burnish. No telling how many people you've already alienated.
Think of it as a $1,000 per person you won't be getting from the $3,000 they
pay upfront. It all started with your bashing the timeshare business
(negativity) instead of posting a positive image by telling us what your
oh-so-old company has to offer, if anything. But, I guess negative people
want everyone else to be negative, so they spread negativity even if it
costs them a thousand dollars a whack. Misery loves company and all that
rot. Keep up the good work - there are a lot more remaining people out there
to alienate. KM
--
(-:alohacyberian:-) At my website view over 3,600 live cameras or
visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI, and
NBA, the White House, Academy Awards, 150 language translators!
Visit Hawaii, Israel and more at: http://keith.martin.home.att.net/

If your friend were buying a $3,000 car for $25,000, wouldn't you tell
your friend to end the deal? That's what I'm doing. Don't buy a time
share. Save your money, and buy luxury resorts ala carte. That's all.
Do the math. GRN really is a better deal. Contact me at the number at
my website if you'd like. I'm not trying to make you angry.

http://TravelAdventure.tv

It all started with your bashing the timeshare business

We need laugh therapy. Here ya go:

http://professionalsales411.blogspot...re-relief.html

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On May 6, 1:34 am, "Alohacyberian" wrote:
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Then again, there are those of us who realize that the "lifetime" of
some
such schemes can be only a few years or less. Again, caveat emptor.
KM

We've been in business since 1986. How long has your business been
alive?

First of all, I don't know that your company HAS been in business since
1986 - I've never heard of it. Just because the company has been in
business since 1986, doesn't mean it's been selling that product since
1986.
And a Google search reveals that Global Resorts Network, LLC (a name
that's
a copycat knock-off of the older Global Resorts, Inc.) And if it has
been
selling that product since 1986, howcum nobody's heard of it? Or do you
take
personal credit for helping to keep it obscure? ;-) Now to answer your
question, (How long has my business been alive?) AT&T have been around
since
1875. (And yes, I know that wasn't its original name.) That's longer
than
being around since 1986 and your company is barely old enough or almost
old
enough to drink liquor in most U.S. states. Not all that impressive to
me.
But, at least your petty bickering is helping to tarnish the very image
you
wish to burnish. No telling how many people you've already alienated.
Think of it as a $1,000 per person you won't be getting from the $3,000
they
pay upfront. It all started with your bashing the timeshare business
(negativity) instead of posting a positive image by telling us what your
oh-so-old company has to offer, if anything. But, I guess negative
people
want everyone else to be negative, so they spread negativity even if it
costs them a thousand dollars a whack. Misery loves company and all that
rot. Keep up the good work - there are a lot more remaining people out
there
to alienate. KM

If your friend were buying a $3,000 car for $25,000, wouldn't you tell
your friend to end the deal? That's what I'm doing. Don't buy a time
share.

Once again, you're living in a dreamworld where you invent the so-called
facts and then proceed to argue against your own creations. A timeshare is
worth what it's worth, whatever the market determines; so no, I'm not going
to tell my friend not to buy one - it's none of my business. And there
aren't any $3,000 cars on sale for $25,000, anyway. You aren't selling
timeshares, you're attempting to sell another product that isn't a
timeshare, so your comparison is moot. The old comparing apples to oranges
routine designed to confuse, confound, obfuscate and generally work someone
over. First of all you're claiming to sell your product for $3,000 which you
aren't selling it for that. The $3,000 that someone forks over (of which
you, personally, get to keep $1,000) is only the beginning. Every time
anyone uses the service which your company offers, those people going to pay
more money. So it isn't $3,000 at all. How much more are these "members"
going to pay? Well, that depends on all kind of things. I don't know the
answer and neither do you. How much are they going to spend ten years from
now? Nobody knows and nobody knows if the company will still be around.
But, multi-level marketing companies do raise caution flags and for good
reason. Is your company or your scheme regulated? Well, no. Does the
company run all its business from its own offices or does it have a bunch of
"independent contractors" like you who go out and hawk their services for
$1,000 a crack? That is, you get a thousand dollars of the $3,000 that the
target pays. So if something goes wrong, who is liable, the company or that
pesky multi-level independent contractor? I know, I know, your going to
claim the company backs you 100%, but, if that were the case, you'd be on
their payroll instead of peddling your wares independently. Be honest, you
aren't even an employee of the company you claim to represent, you're not on
their payroll, so now it's my turn to ask you (see above) how long your
"business" has been alive as opposed to Global Resorts Network? And why
does Global Resorts Network stoop to using a copycat knock-off name to try
to fool people into thinking they're aligned with the older, established
Global Resorts, Inc.? Don't tell the rest of us what not to buy, tell us
what you have to sell. If Ford bashes Chevy, my opinion of Ford is
diminished. If you bash another field of commercial endeavor, I lose
respect for you. That simple. Others who feel that way probably won't
bother to tell you so or they'll agree with you because they know the price
of disagreeing. But, they aren't helping you. KM
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On 3 May 2007 19:37:06 -0700,
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WARNING: Viewing this information may cause nausea, mild depression
and anxiety for current time share owners.

http://professionalsales411.blogspot...etter-way.html

I reckon telemarketed timeshares are great.

In 2003 I went rtw and accrued lots of FF miles with Qantas.
A month after we returned Worldmark Trendwest rang from the
Gold Coast (Oz) and asked if we'd sit through a sales spiel.
I asked what's in it for me - they said free accommodation
if I turned up. So I said yes.

Sat through the spiel, said no to the saleslady (twice the
price I could have bought from a re-seller, IF I had been
buying) , and six months later spent 4 days in the Outrigger
in Fiji. Lovely.

A year later, they rang again - from Bangalore this time. I
said I'd been before, they said it didn't matter. I sat
through the spiel again (pushier this time) said no again,
and a few months later stayed in a motel in Auckland NZ free
for four nights.

last year I went rtw again, so more FF miles. They rang
AGAIN. I couldn't believe it - I told them I'd been twice,
they said come again. So I did; really high pressure this
time "you realise this is the third time - we can't invite
you again?" I just told them I was surprised at the second
time, let alone the third one. Said no, withstood the
pressure - so we'll be off to Cairns for three free nights
in June.

At about 90 minutes a spiel, I reckon it's worth my time for
the free hotels. Values my time at about $300 per hour - and
I'm retired. It will be fascinating to see if they ring for
number four.

Of course, I'd never buy one:-)


Cheers, Alan, Australia
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latest: Venice, Aquileia and Trieste
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/

On May 7, 1:24 am, "Alohacyberian" wrote:
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On May 6, 1:34 am, "Alohacyberian" wrote:
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Then again, there are those of us who realize that the "lifetime" of
some
such schemes can be only a few years or less. Again, caveat emptor.
KM

We've been in business since 1986. How long has your business been
alive?

First of all, I don't know that your company HAS been in business since
1986 - I've never heard of it. Just because the company has been in
business since 1986, doesn't mean it's been selling that product since
1986.
And a Google search reveals that Global Resorts Network, LLC (a name
that's
a copycat knock-off of the older Global Resorts, Inc.) And if it has
been
selling that product since 1986, howcum nobody's heard of it? Or do you
take
personal credit for helping to keep it obscure? ;-) Now to answer your
question, (How long has my business been alive?) AT&T have been around
since
1875. (And yes, I know that wasn't its original name.) That's longer
than
being around since 1986 and your company is barely old enough or almost
old
enough to drink liquor in most U.S. states. Not all that impressive to
me.
But, at least your petty bickering is helping to tarnish the very image
you
wish to burnish. No telling how many people you've already alienated.
Think of it as a $1,000 per person you won't be getting from the $3,000
they
pay upfront. It all started with your bashing the timeshare business
(negativity) instead of posting a positive image by telling us what your
oh-so-old company has to offer, if anything. But, I guess negative
people
want everyone else to be negative, so they spread negativity even if it
costs them a thousand dollars a whack. Misery loves company and all that
rot. Keep up the good work - there are a lot more remaining people out
there
to alienate. KM

If your friend were buying a $3,000 car for $25,000, wouldn't you tell
your friend to end the deal? That's what I'm doing. Don't buy a time
share.

Once again, you're living in a dreamworld where you invent the so-called
facts and then proceed to argue against your own creations. A timeshare is
worth what it's worth, whatever the market determines; so no, I'm not going
to tell my friend not to buy one - it's none of my business. And there
aren't any $3,000 cars on sale for $25,000, anyway. You aren't selling
timeshares, you're attempting to sell another product that isn't a
timeshare, so your comparison is moot. The old comparing apples to oranges
routine designed to confuse, confound, obfuscate and generally work someone
over. First of all you're claiming to sell your product for $3,000 which you
aren't selling it for that. The $3,000 that someone forks over (of which
you, personally, get to keep $1,000) is only the beginning. Every time
anyone uses the service which your company offers, those people going to pay
more money. So it isn't $3,000 at all. How much more are these "members"
going to pay? Well, that depends on all kind of things. I don't know the
answer and neither do you. How much are they going to spend ten years from
now? Nobody knows and nobody knows if the company will still be around.
But, multi-level marketing companies do raise caution flags and for good
reason. Is your company or your scheme regulated? Well, no. Does the
company run all its business from its own offices or does it have a bunch of
"independent contractors" like you who go out and hawk their services for
$1,000 a crack? That is, you get a thousand dollars of the $3,000 that the
target pays. So if something goes wrong, who is liable, the company or that
pesky multi-level independent contractor? I know, I know, your going to
claim the company backs you 100%, but, if that were the case, you'd be on
their payroll instead of peddling your wares independently. Be honest, you
aren't even an employee of the company you claim to represent, you're not on
their payroll, so now it's my turn to ask you (see above) how long your
"business" has been alive as opposed to Global Resorts Network? And why
does Global Resorts Network stoop to using a copycat knock-off name to try
to fool people into thinking they're aligned with the older, established
Global Resorts, Inc.? Don't tell the rest of us what not to buy, tell us
what you have to sell. If Ford bashes Chevy, my opinion of Ford is
diminished. If you bash another field of commercial endeavor, I lose
respect for you. That simple. Others who feel that way probably won't
bother to tell you so or they'll agree with you because they know the price
of disagreeing. But, they aren't helping you. KM
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visit NASA, the Vatican, the Smithsonian, the Louvre, CIA, FBI, and
NBA, the White House, Academy Awards, 150 language translators!
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But we really do have a much better deal than timeshares. Truly and
honestly!

Try this:

1. Go to http://TravelAdventure.tv. I'm an affiliate with Global
Resorts Network, and this is my affiliate site.

2. Click the "BROWSE..." link at the bottom right and use login:
vacation, password: lookfor

3. I found a really nice Fairfield resort in Myrtle Beach for only
$298 to $699 per week, the Fairfield Seawatch Plantation.

If you bought into a Fairfield resort through their regular timeshare
route, you would probably pay $20,000 up front, plus maintenance fees
and other costs every single month. You would have to pay an RCI fee
to switch to another resort chain of your liking at a more desirable
time of the year, and the week that you really want may not be
available without another upcharge. That's the way it's been working
for years now.

Take your time and look around. We have zero blackout weeks, no
maintenance fees, and no mortgage payments.

Math is good.

Here's another cool movie: http://grntour.us, login: resort, password:
movie

On May 7, 2:35 am, Alan S wrote:
On 3 May 2007 19:37:06 -0700,
wrote:

WARNING: Viewing this information may cause nausea, mild depression
and anxiety for current time share owners.

http://professionalsales411.blogspot...uy-time-share-...

I reckon telemarketed timeshares are great.

In 2003 I went rtw and accrued lots of FF miles with Qantas.
A month after we returned Worldmark Trendwest rang from the
Gold Coast (Oz) and asked if we'd sit through a sales spiel.
I asked what's in it for me - they said free accommodation
if I turned up. So I said yes.

Sat through the spiel, said no to the saleslady (twice the
price I could have bought from a re-seller, IF I had been
buying) , and six months later spent 4 days in the Outrigger
in Fiji. Lovely.

A year later, they rang again - from Bangalore this time. I
said I'd been before, they said it didn't matter. I sat
through the spiel again (pushier this time) said no again,
and a few months later stayed in a motel in Auckland NZ free
for four nights.

last year I went rtw again, so more FF miles. They rang
AGAIN. I couldn't believe it - I told them I'd been twice,
they said come again. So I did; really high pressure this
time "you realise this is the third time - we can't invite
you again?" I just told them I was surprised at the second
time, let alone the third one. Said no, withstood the
pressure - so we'll be off to Cairns for three free nights
in June.

At about 90 minutes a spiel, I reckon it's worth my time for
the free hotels. Values my time at about $300 per hour - and
I'm retired. It will be fascinating to see if they ring for
number four.

Of course, I'd never buy one:-)

Cheers, Alan, Australia
--http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Venice, Aquileia and Triestehttp://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/

Wow. You have nerves of steel. I could only do it once. I posted my
experience he

http://professionalsales411.blogspot...tter-than.html

Here's a cool video of some folks that opted out of the timeshare deal
as well:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...94895551&hl=en

On May 7, 2:35 am, Alan S wrote:
On 3 May 2007 19:37:06 -0700,
wrote:

WARNING: Viewing this information may cause nausea, mild depression
and anxiety for current time share owners.

http://professionalsales411.blogspot...uy-time-share-...

I reckon telemarketed timeshares are great.

In 2003 I went rtw and accrued lots of FF miles with Qantas.
A month after we returned Worldmark Trendwest rang from the
Gold Coast (Oz) and asked if we'd sit through a sales spiel.
I asked what's in it for me - they said free accommodation
if I turned up. So I said yes.

Sat through the spiel, said no to the saleslady (twice the
price I could have bought from a re-seller, IF I had been
buying) , and six months later spent 4 days in the Outrigger
in Fiji. Lovely.

A year later, they rang again - from Bangalore this time. I
said I'd been before, they said it didn't matter. I sat
through the spiel again (pushier this time) said no again,
and a few months later stayed in a motel in Auckland NZ free
for four nights.

last year I went rtw again, so more FF miles. They rang
AGAIN. I couldn't believe it - I told them I'd been twice,
they said come again. So I did; really high pressure this
time "you realise this is the third time - we can't invite
you again?" I just told them I was surprised at the second
time, let alone the third one. Said no, withstood the
pressure - so we'll be off to Cairns for three free nights
in June.

At about 90 minutes a spiel, I reckon it's worth my time for
the free hotels. Values my time at about $300 per hour - and
I'm retired. It will be fascinating to see if they ring for
number four.

Of course, I'd never buy one:-)

Cheers, Alan, Australia
--http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/
latest: Venice, Aquileia and Triestehttp://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/

Hi, Alan

I was reading your blog entry at http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2006...ng-on-net.html

You do get around! I had grown accustomed to using Expedia and
Travelocity myself. But at $1,400 to $2,500 per week for the type of
resorts I really liked, the costs started to add up pretty fast. So
GRN was a good fit for my travel personality, which is nowhere near as
extensive as yours. However, I'm pretty sure I will make up for lost
time with the travel deal I have now.

Antony
http://TravelAdventure.tv

Alohacyberian wrote:

First of all, I don't know that your company HAS been in business since
1986 - I've never heard of it. Just because the company has been in
business since 1986, doesn't mean it's been selling that product since 1986.
And a Google search reveals that Global Resorts Network, LLC (a name that's
a copycat knock-off of the older Global Resorts, Inc.) And if it has been
selling that product since 1986, howcum nobody's heard of it? Or do you take
personal credit for helping to keep it obscure? ;-)

It's yet another multi-level marketing scheme. The poster that is
spamming is just trying to sell memberships, and has nothing to do with
the company's history. The MLM scheme for this company is relatively
recent. The MLM reseller makes at least $1000 if they sell a $3000
"lifetime membership."

The best advice is to avoid this company at all costs. You can get the
same sort of deals without paying out for this sort of ridiculous
membership.

As to timeshares, yes they are best avoided unless you're going to
actually use the timeshare that you bought yourself. Other than that,
they are almost always a terrible deal. By the time you pay the yearly
fees, the exchange fees, etc., you can rent a condo in whatever location
you're going to for less.

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But we really do have a much better deal than timeshares. Truly and
honestly!


That may or may not be true, but, why not promote what you do have rather
than disparage a different medium? If you really have confidence in what
you have to sell, you wouldn't need to mention other products and services.
Does Hilton mention Motel 6 or vice-versa? Well, no. Why not? The answer
is obvious. They tell you what they have, not what the other medium
supposedly doesn't have. Does KFC knock McDonalds? Why not? The answer
seems obvious to everyone but you. Besides, I'd never take any
businessperson seriously who uses a free e-mail address (business is so bad
I'm forced to use free e-mail) such as @yahoo.com - @hotmail.com and
@gmail.com - KM
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