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The era of FORMAL NIGHTS is fading rapidly...
On 10/11/2007 8:28 PM Ermalee consulted a Magic 8 Ball and declared:
Br What say we throw another dozen scorpions on the barbie? Then we'll top it off with Madagascar Hissing Roaches in aspic or we could start the whole thing off with some goat's head soup sprinkled with live African termites. You guys have to get to experience real exotic cuisine before you think boiled goat is adventurous dining. Brian, please don't bring any of these delicacies to our Saturday luncheon! vbg Ermalee Oh Ermalee, You're tempting me! I know a place in New York where you can get deep fried tarantulas on a stick. But they wouldn't be crunchy by the time they got to our destination. Nobody should have to eat deep fried tarantulas that have gone soggy for their first time. It could totally put them off this snack. Thanks for resisting the temptation. I may have you down for a rabbit dinner sometime. g Ermalee ----looking forward to Saturday Are you going to catch it yourself? I like Hassenpfeffer, not as much as Soft Shell Crabs but I like it. To toss things back on topic maybe you can have a "Candle Light Dinner" a la "Keeping Up Appearances" (PBS) and make it an Ultra-Semi-Formal Formal affair. :-) -- ________ To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!" View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 |
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The era of FORMAL NIGHTS is fading rapidly...
Thus spake Mary Foster :
Charles wrote: In article , Becca wrote: Goat would be unusual to find on a dining room menu. At the Rotisserie on a Carnival cruise, they had frog's legs. You do not find that on a cruise ship very often, in fact, that is the only time I saw it. I have seen frogs legs a few times on the menu on cruises. Also I have seen rabbit. I have seen them and have ordered and enjoyed them. I even ordered and enjoyed Mountain Oysters. I too tend to go for the dishes I cannot or do not have at home. I love variety in my life. (grin) Mary I've had roo and camel. Kangaroo tastes kind of like a gamey beef. Camel is just stringy. -- dillon Elvis is still dead |
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The era of FORMAL NIGHTS is fading rapidly...
"Dillon Pyron" wrote in message ... Thus spake Mary Foster : Goat would be unusual to find on a dining room menu. At the Rotisserie on a Carnival cruise, they had frog's legs. You do not find that on a cruise ship very often, in fact, that is the only time I saw it. I've had roo and camel. Kangaroo tastes kind of like a gamey beef. Camel is just stringy. -- dillon I think the boiled goat referred to Clint's unfortunate demise in the hot tub..... |
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"Uncle Peter" wrote: "Dillon Pyron" wrote in message ... Thus spake Mary Foster : Goat would be unusual to find on a dining room menu. At the Rotisserie on a Carnival cruise, they had frog's legs. You do not find that on a cruise ship very often, in fact, that is the only time I saw it. I've had roo and camel. Kangaroo tastes kind of like a gamey beef. Camel is just stringy. -- dillon I think the boiled goat referred to Clint's unfortunate demise in the hot tub..... That would be boiled OLD goat... |
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The era of FORMAL NIGHTS is fading rapidly...
Bingo2002 wrote:
Ike wrote: .....And in those years, when the grand liners of history served only the affluent, EVERY night was formal night. "Dressing for dinner" was mandatory in the prime of the Queen and on the superb Cunard ships, and men who never asked the cost of anything would arrive with luggage that included several tuxedos or dinner jackets plus a box of their favorite cigars, as their wives brought an array of splendid gowns. They often traveled with their servants... You might be mistaken.... In "those years," the vast majority of people, millions of them, sailed steerage on those grand liners. Even on the superb Cunard ships. Dressing for dinner was the folly of the rich and famous, those people who's sailings were listed in the society pages of the newspapers. They were the tiniest minority of passengers on the ships. What's there to be "mistaken" about? I think we agree... |
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:22:11 -0700, Ike
wrote: Bingo2002 wrote: Ike wrote: .....And in those years, when the grand liners of history served only the affluent, EVERY night was formal night. "Dressing for dinner" was mandatory in the prime of the Queen and on the superb Cunard ships, and men who never asked the cost of anything would arrive with luggage that included several tuxedos or dinner jackets plus a box of their favorite cigars, as their wives brought an array of splendid gowns. They often traveled with their servants... You might be mistaken.... In "those years," the vast majority of people, millions of them, sailed steerage on those grand liners. Even on the superb Cunard ships. Dressing for dinner was the folly of the rich and famous, those people who's sailings were listed in the society pages of the newspapers. They were the tiniest minority of passengers on the ships. What's there to be "mistaken" about? I think we agree... The practice was not exclusive to shipboard. The rich in those days nearly always dressed for dinner, even at home. Thumper |
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Bingo2002 wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:08:13 -0400, Thumper wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:22:11 -0700, Ike wrote: Bingo2002 wrote: Ike wrote: .....And in those years, when the grand liners of history served only the affluent, EVERY night was formal night. "Dressing for dinner" was mandatory in the prime of the Queen and on the superb Cunard ships, and men who never asked the cost of anything would arrive with luggage that included several tuxedos or dinner jackets plus a box of their favorite cigars, as their wives brought an array of splendid gowns. They often traveled with their servants... You might be mistaken.... In "those years," the vast majority of people, millions of them, sailed steerage on those grand liners. Even on the superb Cunard ships. Dressing for dinner was the folly of the rich and famous, those people who's sailings were listed in the society pages of the newspapers. They were the tiniest minority of passengers on the ships. What's there to be "mistaken" about? I think we agree... The practice was not exclusive to shipboard. The rich in those days nearly always dressed for dinner, even at home. Thumper And the vast majority, the 10's of millions of people who sailed on these ships, did not dress to impress. So I get kinda antsy when I hear talk about "formal night" being one of the grand old traditions of the sea, of the great age of the ocean liners. It's fiction. Some people did indeed dress in fancy clothes, but most made do with what they had. We're comparing apples to oranges. During the era when passengers used ships ("ocean liners") to go somewhere, there indeed would be more than one class and only the uppermost class wore the finery. Those in steerage didn't. Today, cruise ships usually end up where they started. Passengers travel on them for the pleasure of the ride. The closest there is to "steerage" is an inside stateroom, but there's no difference in the dining room. The question I raised had to do with today's interest in "formal nights"... Ike |
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Bingo2002 wrote:
And the vast majority, the 10's of millions of people who sailed on these ships, did not dress to impress. So I get kinda antsy when I hear talk about "formal night" being one of the grand old traditions of the sea, of the great age of the ocean liners. It's fiction. Some people did indeed dress in fancy clothes, but most made do with what they had. Back in "those days," people also dressed more formally for about everything. Look at old photos even dating from the depression era. Men generally wore coats even to do manual labor. Back then, you'd never think of going to a restaurant for dinner without dressing up- even the middle class, and the upper class dressed formally for most group activities. Now, that kind of dress is more "nostalgia" for people than a reflection of dining in a fine restaurant. Back then, formal attire was frequently used both ashore and certainly aboard a ship, where the dressing itself was a diversion and for the wealthy- a chance to show off jewels and their best clothes. In most shoreside cities, someone dressed in a tux or gown would be as out of place in virtually all restaurants as would someone dressed in rags would be aboard a ship. IMHO,formal attire aboard a ship is an affectation some folks enjoy, so power to them. However, it's also an anachronism and not one I prefer to continue. I will dress nicely, as I would if attending a similar dinner in a nice restaurant in a city, but to heck with the tux, formal shoes and general silliness. Nonny -- ---Nonnymus--- No matter how large your boat, the person you are talking with will have a close friend with a larger one. ---Observation by my son |
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The era of FORMAL NIGHTS is fading rapidly...
On 10/22/2007 11:37 PM Nonnymus plucked Senior Frog's Magic Twanger and
said: Bingo2002 wrote: And the vast majority, the 10's of millions of people who sailed on these ships, did not dress to impress. So I get kinda antsy when I hear talk about "formal night" being one of the grand old traditions of the sea, of the great age of the ocean liners. It's fiction. Some people did indeed dress in fancy clothes, but most made do with what they had. Back in "those days," people also dressed more formally for about everything. Look at old photos even dating from the depression era. Men generally wore coats even to do manual labor. Back then, you'd never think of going to a restaurant for dinner without dressing up- even the middle class, and the upper class dressed formally for most group activities. Now, that kind of dress is more "nostalgia" for people than a reflection of dining in a fine restaurant. Back then, formal attire was frequently used both ashore and certainly aboard a ship, where the dressing itself was a diversion and for the wealthy- a chance to show off jewels and their best clothes. In most shoreside cities, someone dressed in a tux or gown would be as out of place in virtually all restaurants as would someone dressed in rags would be aboard a ship. IMHO,formal attire aboard a ship is an affectation some folks enjoy, so power to them. However, it's also an anachronism and not one I prefer to continue. I will dress nicely, as I would if attending a similar dinner in a nice restaurant in a city, but to heck with the tux, formal shoes and general silliness. Nonny This has got me thinking. I wonder what the African passengers on slave ships wore on "Formal Nights". ;-) -- ________ To email me, Edit "blog" from my email address. Brian M. Kochera "Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once!" View My Web Page: http://home.earthlink.net/~brian1951 |
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The era of FORMAL NIGHTS is fading rapidly...
Nonnymus wrote: Bingo2002 wrote: And the vast majority, the 10's of millions of people who sailed on these ships, did not dress to impress. So I get kinda antsy when I hear talk about "formal night" being one of the grand old traditions of the sea, of the great age of the ocean liners. It's fiction. Some people did indeed dress in fancy clothes, but most made do with what they had. Back in "those days," people also dressed more formally for about everything. Look at old photos even dating from the depression era. Men generally wore coats even to do manual labor. Back then, you'd never think of going to a restaurant for dinner without dressing up- even the middle class, and the upper class dressed formally for most group activities. Now, that kind of dress is more "nostalgia" for people than a reflection of dining in a fine restaurant. Back then, formal attire was frequently used both ashore and certainly aboard a ship, where the dressing itself was a diversion and for the wealthy- a chance to show off jewels and their best clothes. In most shoreside cities, someone dressed in a tux or gown would be as out of place in virtually all restaurants as would someone dressed in rags would be aboard a ship. IMHO,formal attire aboard a ship is an affectation some folks enjoy, so power to them. However, it's also an anachronism and not one I prefer to continue. I will dress nicely, as I would if attending a similar dinner in a nice restaurant in a city, but to heck with the tux, formal shoes and general silliness. Nonny Dear Nonny, Right on. The Penguin Suits are fine for those who want them, but when I am on a cruise I prefer to dress comfortably as I would at a nice restaurant here in Southern California I dress not like some of the "stars" in their cheap trash chic but, clean, untorn, pressed clothing with polished shoes, etc. By the way, I am sure that my grandparents when they sailed over here from the "Old Country," did not have many jewels, fancy clothes, etc. in their cardboard suitcases. Cheers, John in LALALand (Home of the $300+ torn jeans) |
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