Terrorism effect?

Ray Goldenberg wrote:

BTW, Abu Abbas, also known as Mohammad Abbas,
escaped from an Italian prison. He remained a terrorist until he was
apprehended by our US-led coalition in Baghdad. He died of a heart
attack on 3/9/2004 while in US custody.

Abbas wasn't active, and about the only terrorist found in Iraq. Make no
doubt about it, most terrorists are from U.S. ally countries: Saudi
Arabia (including bin Laden), Egypt (including Ayman al-Zawahiri),
Jordan (including al-Zaqawri), Kuwait, and Pakistan. Places like Iran,
Iraq, and Syria have produced few al-Qaeda members, I can't think of one
actually, and all of these countries, including and perhaps especially
the American allies, have financially supported Palistinian groups
linked to terrorism. Per al-Qaeda affiliated terrorist group Ansar
al-Islam, they were active in the Kurdish-controlled area of Iraq.

It's questionable if Abbas died of a heart attack but few are that
concerned.

I think the ship hijacked was the Achille Lauro (something like that).
And this was in a time when Lebanon was a disaster area and aircraft
were hijacked, hostages were taken in a few instances--a fairly active
time of terrorism, similar to now but more politicized.

Ben S.



Best regards,
Ray
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On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:27:09 GMT, Benjamin Smith
wrote:

Abbas wasn't active, and about the only terrorist found in Iraq.

Hi Ben,

Unfortunately you are mistaken. Abbas was very active and we are
seeing terrorists targeting coalition troops and Iraqi citizens on a
daily basis. I am surprised you did not know this since even the
liberal NY Times reports this. vbg

I think the ship hijacked was the Achille Lauro (something like that).
I identified the ship in my original post.

Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL
800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905
http://www.lighthousetravel.com

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 14:46:01 -0700, Ray Goldenberg wrote:

we are
seeing terrorists targeting coalition troops and Iraqi citizens on a
daily basis.


do they begin their attacks by saying "Hi, Everyone" as if they really
care, I mean really, truly care to be so cheery and disingenuous?
--
"A lot of things wrong with society today are directly attributable to the
fact that the people who make the laws are sexually maladjusted." -Frank
Zappa

In article
, Gayle A
Kortright wrote:

One result of the London bombings is a program called "ICE" in your
cellphone--"in case of emergency" you program in the number of next of kin,
spouse, whatever. Then if you aren't able to talk (God forbid) the police
or emergency people can look on your cellphone for the "ICE" entry and notify
your loved ones.

What a great idea. And not just regarding terrorism either. What if
you're in an automobile accident?

This is not a terrorism plan. It is just an idea for putting emergency
info on your phone.

I think a lamenated card in your wallet with that information would be
a better idea. Lots of things could go wrong with the phone. Damaged
phone, low battery, password required, etc.

--
Charles

Ray Goldenberg wrote:

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:27:09 GMT, Benjamin Smith
wrote:


Abbas wasn't active, and about the only terrorist found in Iraq.


Hi Ben,

Unfortunately you are mistaken. Abbas was very active and we are
seeing terrorists targeting coalition troops and Iraqi citizens on a
daily basis. I am surprised you did not know this since even the
liberal NY Times reports this. vbg

The troops are at war and *they* occupy a foreign land. All is fair in
war, especially when one side has planes and aircraft carriers, unmaned
drones, satellites, night vision, and all sorts of other advantages in
this war. I don't consider attacks on coalition troops terrorism. I
consider it part of war. Now, the attacks on Iraqi citizens can be
considered terrorism.

I've read accounts of Abbas being a "has been" terrorist. He wasn't
al-Qaeda, maybe we can agree on that.

Ben S.


I think the ship hijacked was the Achille Lauro (something like that).

I identified the ship in my original post.

Best regards,
Ray
LIGHTHOUSE TRAVEL
800-719-9917 or 805-566-3905
http://www.lighthousetravel.com

Old news!
"Charles" wrote in message
d...
In article
, Gayle A
Kortright wrote:

One result of the London bombings is a program called "ICE" in your
cellphone--"in case of emergency" you program in the number of next of
kin,
spouse, whatever. Then if you aren't able to talk (God forbid) the
police
or emergency people can look on your cellphone for the "ICE" entry and
notify
your loved ones.

What a great idea. And not just regarding terrorism either. What if
you're in an automobile accident?

This is not a terrorism plan. It is just an idea for putting emergency
info on your phone.

I think a lamenated card in your wallet with that information would be
a better idea. Lots of things could go wrong with the phone. Damaged
phone, low battery, password required, etc.

--
Charles

I am a FF/paaramedic and while this sounds like a great idea......would you
rather me look thru your phone and try to find out who you are on scene or
transport you and concentrate on stopping the bleeding or reversing your
insulin shock, or pushing ALS drugs and defibbing your V-fibbing heart?

Good idea just not very practical in an emergency situation.

" Unfortunately you are mistaken. Abbas was very active and we are
seeing terrorists targeting coalition troops and Iraqi citizens on a
daily basis. I am surprised you did not know this since even the
liberal NY Times reports this. vbg


Wow an expert in travel as well as terrorists and terrorism. This
lighthouse guy is a triple threat.....

Rosalie B. wrote:

Hasn't there already been terrorism on cruise ships? Wasn't there a
man who was killed by people who came aboard?

I only remember one about 20 years ago, the Achille Lauro. An old man
was killed. Karl Malden portrayed him in the TV movie.
The size of a cruise ship make a takeover difficult.

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 06:52:24 GMT, mrtravel wrote:

The size of a cruise ship make a takeover difficult.

Anyone know where security keeps its cache of weapons?
--
"The ONLY thing that seems to band all nations together, is that their
governments are universally bad....." -Frank Zappa