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They're at it in Crete too.
On May 22, 4:44*pm, "James Silverton"
wrote: *aquachimp *wrote *on Sat, 22 May 2010 06:22:38 -0700 (PDT): Now, obviously from the sheer weight of number of people turning up at Scam Central (and that was just while we were there) *clearly this say something about the Cretan Holiday Experience ... just that if I were the Cretan authorities, rather than relying on that hidden criteria as a measure of success through which to further promote Crete, *I'd go for chucking these scamsters out of my country. Or at least try to ensure that all tourists are advised to go around looking as miserable as possible at all times. As Douglas Hoffstadter put it : 'Epimenides was a Cretan who made one immortal statement: "All Cretans are liars." *' The quotation from Epimenides has actually been around since the third century BC. Aah, but "immortal" and "true" are evidentially not mutually exclusive, or at least this experience offered no such evidence given that the scammers were of just about every nationality except Greek. (assuming the taxis were independent) |
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They're at it in Crete too.
On May 22, 4:38*pm, BP killed my turtle
wrote: On May 22, 3:22*pm, aquachimp wrote: On May 22, 3:00*pm, (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote: Andy Pandy wrote: "aquachimp" wrote in message ... Oddly enough, there's not much mention about this kind of thing here. Or does it go by another name. I suspect it's never mentioned here because most people who post here are independant travellers who don't go on "beach" holidays or to typical package holiday destinations where these scum operate. Never bumped into them myself, certainly. Maybe I just look as if I'm skint? Nah, that aint it; I've been doing some research into the scams prime target selection and I since found one site claiming to reveal all. It's not that they're looking out for package holiday destination tourists, nor childless couples, or "newbie" tourists. No, what they pick out are people who look like they are having fun and clearly enjoying their holiday. *gullible ?! Hmm, can't say I saw a mention of gullible. http://www.ehow.com/how_2272842_spot...avel-scam.html However, there is a scientific basis that would agree with that, or at least from what I read in a fairly recent New Scientist, or Scientific American magazine which pointed out that happiness makes people more prone to being gullible. What might interest you though is that there's a sort of "save our turtles" campaign going on there. But no, it 's not the BP ones; We saw the kiosk near the opening to the harbour car park. Previously, the holiday rep had mentioned something about turtles coming ashore to nest and that was about all he seemed to know about the place, though it seems now that his direction were about 15 km out (he was suggesting to the West of Scam Central, when in fact it's to the east and , oh, they don't do the nesting gig until late July -to August, so he got that bit wrong too. |
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They're at it in Crete too.
On 22/05/10 16:38, BP killed my turtle wrote:
On May 22, 3:22 pm, aquachimp wrote: On May 22, 3:00 pm, (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote: Andy Pandy wrote: "aquachimp" wrote in message ... Oddly enough, there's not much mention about this kind of thing here. Or does it go by another name. I suspect it's never mentioned here because most people who post here are independant travellers who don't go on "beach" holidays or to typical package holiday destinations where these scum operate. Never bumped into them myself, certainly. Maybe I just look as if I'm skint? Nah, that aint it; I've been doing some research into the scams prime target selection and I since found one site claiming to reveal all. It's not that they're looking out for package holiday destination tourists, nor childless couples, or "newbie" tourists. No, what they pick out are people who look like they are having fun and clearly enjoying their holiday. gullible ?! In Lanzarote they were indiscriminate. We had flu, hated the place and even tried to go home a week early and they still accosted us. |
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On May 22, 5:16*pm, aquachimp
wrote: On May 22, 4:38*pm, BP killed my turtle wrote: On May 22, 3:22*pm, aquachimp wrote: On May 22, 3:00*pm, (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote: Andy Pandy wrote: "aquachimp" wrote in message ... Oddly enough, there's not much mention about this kind of thing here. Or does it go by another name. I suspect it's never mentioned here because most people who post here are independant travellers who don't go on "beach" holidays or to typical package holiday destinations where these scum operate. Never bumped into them myself, certainly. Maybe I just look as if I'm skint? Nah, that aint it; I've been doing some research into the scams prime target selection and I since found one site claiming to reveal all. It's not that they're looking out for package holiday destination tourists, nor childless couples, or "newbie" tourists. No, what they pick out are people who look like they are having fun and clearly enjoying their holiday. *gullible ?! Hmm, can't say I saw a mention of gullible.http://www.ehow.com/how_2272842_spot...avel-scam.html However, there is a scientific basis that would agree with that, or at least from what I read in a fairly recent New Scientist, or Scientific American *magazine which pointed out that happiness makes people more prone to being gullible. What might interest you though is that there's a *sort of "save our turtles" campaign going on there. But no, it 's not the BP ones; We saw the kiosk near the opening to the harbour car park. Previously, the holiday rep had mentioned something about turtles coming ashore to nest and that was about all he seemed to know about the place, though it seems now that his direction were about 15 km out (he was suggesting to the West of Scam Central, when in fact it's to the east and , oh, they don't do the nesting gig until late July -to August, so he got that bit wrong too. Be wary of people who approach you....nuff sed |
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On May 22, 5:55*pm, Martin wrote:
On 22/05/10 16:38, BP killed my turtle wrote: On May 22, 3:22 pm, aquachimp wrote: On May 22, 3:00 pm, (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote: Andy Pandy wrote: "aquachimp" wrote in message ... Oddly enough, there's not much mention about this kind of thing here. Or does it go by another name. I suspect it's never mentioned here because most people who post here are independant travellers who don't go on "beach" holidays or to typical package holiday destinations where these scum operate. Never bumped into them myself, certainly. Maybe I just look as if I'm skint? Nah, that aint it; I've been doing some research into the scams prime target selection and I since found one site claiming to reveal all. It's not that they're looking out for package holiday destination tourists, nor childless couples, or "newbie" tourists. No, what they pick out are people who look like they are having fun and clearly enjoying their holiday. *gullible ?! In Lanzarote they were indiscriminate. We had flu, hated the place and even tried to go home a week early and they still accosted us. ROLF! |
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On 22/05/10 18:00, BP killed my turtle wrote:
On May 22, 5:16 pm, aquachimp wrote: On May 22, 4:38 pm, BP killed my turtle wrote: On May 22, 3:22 pm, aquachimp wrote: On May 22, 3:00 pm, (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote: Andy Pandy wrote: "aquachimp" wrote in message ... Oddly enough, there's not much mention about this kind of thing here. Or does it go by another name. I suspect it's never mentioned here because most people who post here are independant travellers who don't go on "beach" holidays or to typical package holiday destinations where these scum operate. Never bumped into them myself, certainly. Maybe I just look as if I'm skint? Nah, that aint it; I've been doing some research into the scams prime target selection and I since found one site claiming to reveal all. It's not that they're looking out for package holiday destination tourists, nor childless couples, or "newbie" tourists. No, what they pick out are people who look like they are having fun and clearly enjoying their holiday. gullible ?! Hmm, can't say I saw a mention of gullible.http://www.ehow.com/how_2272842_spot...avel-scam.html However, there is a scientific basis that would agree with that, or at least from what I read in a fairly recent New Scientist, or Scientific American magazine which pointed out that happiness makes people more prone to being gullible. What might interest you though is that there's a sort of "save our turtles" campaign going on there. But no, it 's not the BP ones; We saw the kiosk near the opening to the harbour car park. Previously, the holiday rep had mentioned something about turtles coming ashore to nest and that was about all he seemed to know about the place, though it seems now that his direction were about 15 km out (he was suggesting to the West of Scam Central, when in fact it's to the east and , oh, they don't do the nesting gig until late July -to August, so he got that bit wrong too. Be wary of people who approach you....nuff sed and avoid Greeks bearing gifts. ) |
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They're at it in Crete too.
"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" wrote in message ... Andy Pandy wrote: "aquachimp" wrote in message ... Oddly enough, there's not much mention about this kind of thing here. Or does it go by another name. I suspect it's never mentioned here because most people who post here are independant travellers who don't go on "beach" holidays or to typical package holiday destinations where these scum operate. Never bumped into them myself, certainly. Maybe I just look as if I'm skint? They're looking for "couples", and although you may travel as a couple I guess you might not be obviously identifiable as such ;-) -- Andy |
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On 22/05/10 18:43, Andy Pandy wrote:
"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" wrote in message ... Andy Pandy wrote: "aquachimp" wrote in message ... Oddly enough, there's not much mention about this kind of thing here. Or does it go by another name. I suspect it's never mentioned here because most people who post here are independant travellers who don't go on "beach" holidays or to typical package holiday destinations where these scum operate. Never bumped into them myself, certainly. Maybe I just look as if I'm skint? They're looking for "couples", and although you may travel as a couple I guess you might not be obviously identifiable as such ;-) They look for gullible suckers. |
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On May 22, 6:00*pm, BP killed my turtle
wrote: On May 22, 5:16*pm, aquachimp wrote: On May 22, 4:38*pm, BP killed my turtle wrote: On May 22, 3:22*pm, aquachimp wrote: On May 22, 3:00*pm, (David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote: Andy Pandy wrote: "aquachimp" wrote in message ... Oddly enough, there's not much mention about this kind of thing here. Or does it go by another name. I suspect it's never mentioned here because most people who post here are independant travellers who don't go on "beach" holidays or to typical package holiday destinations where these scum operate. Never bumped into them myself, certainly. Maybe I just look as if I'm skint? Nah, that aint it; I've been doing some research into the scams prime target selection and I since found one site claiming to reveal all. It's not that they're looking out for package holiday destination tourists, nor childless couples, or "newbie" tourists. No, what they pick out are people who look like they are having fun and clearly enjoying their holiday. *gullible ?! Hmm, can't say I saw a mention of gullible.http://www.ehow.com/how_2272842_spot...avel-scam.html However, there is a scientific basis that would agree with that, or at least from what I read in a fairly recent New Scientist, or Scientific American *magazine which pointed out that happiness makes people more prone to being gullible. What might interest you though is that there's a *sort of "save our turtles" campaign going on there. But no, it 's not the BP ones; We saw the kiosk near the opening to the harbour car park. Previously, the holiday rep had mentioned something about turtles coming ashore to nest and that was about all he seemed to know about the place, though it seems now that his direction were about 15 km out (he was suggesting to the West of Scam Central, when in fact it's to the east and , oh, they don't do the nesting gig until late July -to August, so he got that bit wrong too. Be wary of people who approach you....nuff sed Cautiously succinctly expressed. But easier said than done. Put it this way, I popped along here into Usenet Street and in posting this thread I have in effect approached everybody. What's more, though not Greek, I did so bearing the Gifts of information and opportunity/excuse to converse. Not everyone has avoided me. A holiday, such as what I've just had, is a feast of freedom and borrowing the phrase "we are what we eat" feasting of freedom lends us to living more freely and, I suspect, even free from a conscious sense of freedom. So when approached, as we were, the under current sense of freedom expressed itself thus, like someone whispering in your ear saying... ooh go on, listen, check it out, you'll be doing him a favour, you're free to walk away any time you want. Trouble is, the same undercurrent, which is the real Trojan Horse at work here expresses itself in the same way as each greater step of risk is encountered. And that's why I think (though making it up as I go along) is why some people get duped, other than those who are tortured into it through tedium, hunger, thirst or as one couple I've since read about, the woman was diabetic, became ill as a consequence of all the missed meal delays, but the scammers still wouldn't let them go until the husband signed on the dotted line. |
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On May 22, 7:05*pm, Martin wrote:
On 22/05/10 18:43, Andy Pandy wrote: "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" wrote in . uk... Andy Pandy wrote: "aquachimp" wrote in message .... Oddly enough, there's not much mention about this kind of thing here. Or does it go by another name. I suspect it's never mentioned here because most people who post here are independant travellers who don't go on "beach" holidays or to typical package holiday destinations where these scum operate. Never bumped into them myself, certainly. Maybe I just look as if I'm skint? They're looking for "couples", and although you may travel as a couple I guess you might not be obviously identifiable as such ;-) They look for gullible suckers. Nah, that doesn't quite work either because they clearly avoid locals and there's bound to be a few gullible suckers in every community and not necessarily ones that are part of a couple. If you turn over stones in search of slugs, it's not the stones you're looking for. So if you turn over gullible suckers, it's their money you're after, so here "couples" represent location, "gullible suckers" are stones and their money is what you're looking for. |
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