IATA bids farewell to paper tickets

grusl wrote:
Jean Charles de Menezes had.

documents and then shot him. I know he was under surveillance but would his
immigration status have really mattered under the circumstances?


Not even. They say some "arab looking" guy with a backpack, shouted at
him to stop and then shot him before he had time to stop. The action was
condoned by the Bliar regime as "necessary to combat terrorism". The
police had the videos of the event and lied to the press about it until
the press heard what had actually happened.

On Aug 27, 2:13 pm, (VS) wrote:
In article . com,
Alain Quai wrote:

GENEVA (Reuters) - The global airlines body IATA said on Monday it
had placed its last order for paper tickets, clearing the way for air
travel to be based entirely on electronic ticketing from June 1 next
year.

My, and it seems like only yesterday our resident licensed attorney,
PaulTauger, was advising us that an e-ticket is not a written
contract, and that the statute of frauds precludes enforcement
of non-written contracts. I wonder if they changed the statute of
frauds since then, or if IATA is in violation.

Still think you know more law than a lawyer?

When we had this discussion in 2000, the context was e-tickets that
weren't booked on line, but on the phone. You think such an e-ticket
is a written agreement? Show me the writing signed by the party to be
charged.

And you don't "violate" the statute of frauds by failing to have a
written agreement. You just can't enforce the oral agreement in
certain cases.

wrote:
On Aug 27, 2:13 pm, (VS) wrote:

In article . com,
Alain Quai wrote:


GENEVA (Reuters) - The global airlines body IATA said on Monday it
had placed its last order for paper tickets, clearing the way for air
travel to be based entirely on electronic ticketing from June 1 next
year.

My, and it seems like only yesterday our resident licensed attorney,
PaulTauger, was advising us that an e-ticket is not a written
contract, and that the statute of frauds precludes enforcement
of non-written contracts. I wonder if they changed the statute of
frauds since then, or if IATA is in violation.


Still think you know more law than a lawyer?


Is international transportation law his specialty?

On Sep 1, 10:44 pm, mrtravel wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 27, 2:13 pm, (VS) wrote:

In article . com,
Alain Quai wrote:

GENEVA (Reuters) - The global airlines body IATA said on Monday it
had placed its last order for paper tickets, clearing the way for air
travel to be based entirely on electronic ticketing from June 1 next
year.

My, and it seems like only yesterday our resident licensed attorney,
PaulTauger, was advising us that an e-ticket is not a written
contract, and that the statute of frauds precludes enforcement
of non-written contracts. I wonder if they changed the statute of
frauds since then, or if IATA is in violation.

Still think you know more law than a lawyer?

Is international transportation law his specialty?

Why do you think you would need to know anything about "international
transportation law" (whatever that is)? Do you think the law of
contracts mutates because there is an airline involved? And "he," by
the way, is me.

In article .com,
wrote:

My, and it seems like only yesterday our resident licensed attorney,
PaulTauger, was advising us that an e-ticket is not a written
contract, and that the statute of frauds precludes enforcement
of non-written contracts. I wonder if they changed the statute of
frauds since then, or if IATA is in violation.

Still think you know more law than a lawyer?

Not ``think,'' I *know* that I know more about e-tickets than some
once-a-year-to-Vegas traveler who presumes that his degree from Brooklyn
Academy of Law gives the force of law to any random opinion he happens
to hold.

When we had this discussion in 2000, the context was e-tickets that
weren't booked on line, but on the phone.

The context was your ridiculous claim that (quote) ``an e-ticket is not
a written contract,'' followed by a long blovation that any opinion
of yours about e-tickets must be correct because you are a Licensed
Attorney (TM)... even though it was blindingly clear that you knew
bugger-all about e-tickets and how they work. E-tickets were written
contracts back in 2000, and they still are.

Out of curiosity, have you made partner yet?

wrote:
On Sep 1, 10:44 pm, mrtravel wrote:

wrote:

On Aug 27, 2:13 pm, (VS) wrote:

In article . com,
Alain Quai wrote:

GENEVA (Reuters) - The global airlines body IATA said on Monday it
had placed its last order for paper tickets, clearing the way for air
travel to be based entirely on electronic ticketing from June 1 next
year.

My, and it seems like only yesterday our resident licensed attorney,
PaulTauger, was advising us that an e-ticket is not a written
contract, and that the statute of frauds precludes enforcement
of non-written contracts. I wonder if they changed the statute of
frauds since then, or if IATA is in violation.

Still think you know more law than a lawyer?

Is international transportation law his specialty?


Why do you think you would need to know anything about "international
transportation law" (whatever that is)? Do you think the law of
contracts mutates because there is an airline involved? And "he," by
the way, is me.


So, is he specializes in contracts executed in any country in the workd,
because if an e-ticket is a contract in Australia, it must be one in
Costa Rica.

On Sep 2, 1:44 pm, (VS) wrote:
In article .com,

wrote:
My, and it seems like only yesterday our resident licensed attorney,
PaulTauger, was advising us that an e-ticket is not a written
contract, and that the statute of frauds precludes enforcement
of non-written contracts. I wonder if they changed the statute of
frauds since then, or if IATA is in violation.

Still think you know more law than a lawyer?

Not ``think,'' I *know* that I know more about e-tickets than some
once-a-year-to-Vegas traveler who presumes that his degree from Brooklyn
Academy of Law gives the force of law to any random opinion he happens
to hold.

When we had this discussion in 2000, the context was e-tickets that
weren't booked on line, but on the phone.

The context was your ridiculous claim that (quote) ``an e-ticket is not
a written contract,'' followed by a long blovation that any opinion
of yours about e-tickets must be correct because you are a Licensed
Attorney (TM)... even though it was blindingly clear that you knew
bugger-all about e-tickets and how they work. E-tickets were written
contracts back in 2000, and they still are.

Out of curiosity, have you made partner yet?

You haven't a clue, have you? Spend some time on google and then see
what you have to say, both about "Brooklyn Academy of Law," where I
practice law, what position I hold and whether I am a "once-a-year
traveler to Las Vegas.

Don't you ever tire of being wrong?

E-tickets are not written contracts if there is no writing, and there
is no writing when they are booked by phone. You do know the
definition of "writing," don't you?

By the way, where is your law degree from? Where are you authorized
to practice law?

wrote:
When we had this discussion in 2000, the context was e-tickets
that weren't booked on line, but on the phone. You think such an
e-ticket is a written agreement? Show me the writing signed by
the party to be charged.

Even before then I showed up to board a 'plane with what was being
called an "E-ticket" that I had received in the mail after a 'phone
call. The agent said there was no record of the document I had in
hand. So I paid about four times as much to make the trip but, when I
got home, wrote to the company, sent a copy of the "E-ticket" and got
a refund.

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wrote:
When we had this discussion in 2000, the context was e-tickets
that weren't booked on line, but on the phone. You think such an
e-ticket is a written agreement? Show me the writing signed by
the party to be charged.

Even before then I showed up to board a 'plane with what was being
called an "E-ticket" that I had received in the mail after a 'phone
call. The agent said there was no record of the document I had in
hand. So I paid about four times as much to make the trip but, when I
got home, wrote to the company, sent a copy of the "E-ticket" and got
a refund.

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On Aug 27, 11:37 pm, (VS) wrote:
In article . com,

wrote:
E-tickets are written contracts.

Is that right? Paul Tauger, our resident lawyer, spake onto us ignorant
laymen on many occasions that in his learned, licensed-attorney opinion,
an e-ticket is not a written contract, e.g.:
http://tinyurl.com/3xov8k

Are you suggesting that Paul Tauger, Esq., who is - as he never tires
of reminding all and sundry - a licensed attorney, is actually wrong
on a matter of law?!

Perhaps the law has changed: this happens sometimes. I can still
remember when computer programs (software generally) were not covered
by any form of intellectual property protection, and so could be
freely copied and re-used by anyone who wished to do so. Microsoft's
entire business model is based on that law having changed.