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Pan wrote:
On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:24:19 +0100, "Elaine" wrote: "Alfred Molon" wrote in message om... By the way, my wife also told me that I shouldn't use the credit card, even in Sungei Wang or BB Plaza because people might copy the data on it and create a copy. I've never had a fraud case in these past 15 years, but should I perhaps be careful and only use the credit card in big and "established" places ? I had my card cloned whilst in Malaysia in April. I only used it 3 times - at KLIA Duty Free, at the Royal Selangor factory shop and in a "big" department store in Kota Kinabalu. I'm guessing it happened in the last one, but can't be sure. That happened to me too. After my trip to Malaysia in July-August 2003, someone cloned my debit card and maxed out my account taking a trip to Songkhla. I got the money back, but had no money in my account for a week and then my bank wouldn't issue another debit card. I finally got a new account but don't plan on taking a debit card next time I'm in Malaysia. What bank do you use? Should not take more than 48 hrs to replace funds.. Michael If you would like to send a private email to me, please take out the TRASH, so to speak. Please do not email me something which you also posted. |
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Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj. Ahmad wrote:
"Pan" wrote in message ... On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:24:19 +0100, "Elaine" wrote: ... That happened to me too. After my trip to Malaysia in July-August 2003, someone cloned my debit card and maxed out my account taking a It seemed to be prevalent among foreigners and not Malaysians. I used to think it was due to the gold credit cards but now I am using gold cards regularly, I still don't get cloned card charges. trip to Songkhla. I got the money back, but had no money in my account for a week and then my bank wouldn't issue another debit card. I finally got a new account but don't plan on taking a debit card next time I'm in Malaysia. What is a debit card anyway? Looks like a credit card usually issued by 'visa or mastercard' The difference being the money is taken out of your bank account right away without a grace period. It is like writing a check. It is always a good idea to get alternative sources of funds when overseas. Even locally, I and my wife carry with us more than 2 types of credit cards, from different banks. |
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On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 08:39:21 -0500, fairplay
wrote: Pan wrote: On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:24:19 +0100, "Elaine" wrote: "Alfred Molon" wrote in message . com... By the way, my wife also told me that I shouldn't use the credit card, even in Sungei Wang or BB Plaza because people might copy the data on it and create a copy. I've never had a fraud case in these past 15 years, but should I perhaps be careful and only use the credit card in big and "established" places ? I had my card cloned whilst in Malaysia in April. I only used it 3 times - at KLIA Duty Free, at the Royal Selangor factory shop and in a "big" department store in Kota Kinabalu. I'm guessing it happened in the last one, but can't be sure. That happened to me too. After my trip to Malaysia in July-August 2003, someone cloned my debit card and maxed out my account taking a trip to Songkhla. I got the money back, but had no money in my account for a week and then my bank wouldn't issue another debit card. I finally got a new account but don't plan on taking a debit card next time I'm in Malaysia. What bank do you use? Should not take more than 48 hrs to replace funds.. They had to wait for the charges to "hit" before refunding them. It was a pretty small bank, but when I opened a new account at a very large bank, the teller told me that the same thing would have happened there under the same circumstances. Michael If you would like to send a private email to me, please take out the TRASH, so to speak. Please do not email me something which you also posted. |
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Pan wrote:
On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 08:39:21 -0500, fairplay wrote: Pan wrote: On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 10:24:19 +0100, "Elaine" wrote: "Alfred Molon" wrote in message .com... By the way, my wife also told me that I shouldn't use the credit card, even in Sungei Wang or BB Plaza because people might copy the data on it and create a copy. I've never had a fraud case in these past 15 years, but should I perhaps be careful and only use the credit card in big and "established" places ? I had my card cloned whilst in Malaysia in April. I only used it 3 times - at KLIA Duty Free, at the Royal Selangor factory shop and in a "big" department store in Kota Kinabalu. I'm guessing it happened in the last one, but can't be sure. That happened to me too. After my trip to Malaysia in July-August 2003, someone cloned my debit card and maxed out my account taking a trip to Songkhla. I got the money back, but had no money in my account for a week and then my bank wouldn't issue another debit card. I finally got a new account but don't plan on taking a debit card next time I'm in Malaysia. What bank do you use? Should not take more than 48 hrs to replace funds.. They had to wait for the charges to "hit" before refunding them. It was a pretty small bank, but when I opened a new account at a very large bank, the teller told me that the same thing would have happened there under the same circumstances. Check out : http://www.bankofamerica.com/ 1.800.900.9000 toll free Michael If you would like to send a private email to me, please take out the TRASH, so to speak. Please do not email me something which you also posted. |
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Dave Baker wrote in message . ..
On 25 Sep 2004 13:48:52 -0700, (ajali) wrote: Go and check with the police station. Several years ago the police have a public complain program "something like saman ekor", they take your report and pursue from there. Well, I don't hold much hope seeing I still have an outstanding assault case from 9 years ago. Can't imagine that anything would be done about simple road-bullying. True. One report might not make a different. But if they continue receiving that kind of report and reaching 100's, I am quite sure some of their top officers will start doing something about it. I'll just slash all 4 of his tyres next time I see his car - who says I haven't picked up the Malaysian ways! :-) Try sometimes. It feels good. But be aware of the consequences. I don't know our law regarding that but in Singapore, if you spray a car, you might get a few slashes of cane. Nothing big really. Dave The email address used for sending these postings is not valid. All replies to the group please. |
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Dave Baker wrote in message . ..
On 25 Sep 2004 13:48:52 -0700, (ajali) wrote: Go and check with the police station. Several years ago the police have a public complain program "something like saman ekor", they take your report and pursue from there. Well, I don't hold much hope seeing I still have an outstanding assault case from 9 years ago. Can't imagine that anything would be done about simple road-bullying. True. One report might not make a different. But if they continue receiving that kind of report and reaching 100's, I am quite sure some of their top officers will start doing something about it. I'll just slash all 4 of his tyres next time I see his car - who says I haven't picked up the Malaysian ways! :-) Try sometimes. It feels good. But be aware of the consequences. I don't know our law regarding that but in Singapore, if you spray a car, you might get a few slashes of cane. Nothing big really. Dave The email address used for sending these postings is not valid. All replies to the group please. |
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Dear Elaine,
I had mine clones when I was making a purchase in Geneva and subsequently someone used the cloned card to make a USD1,000 purchase in Washington. -Alex "Elaine" wrote in message ... "Alfred Molon" wrote in message ... By the way, my wife also told me that I shouldn't use the credit card, even in Sungei Wang or BB Plaza because people might copy the data on it and create a copy. I've never had a fraud case in these past 15 years, but should I perhaps be careful and only use the credit card in big and "established" places ? I had my card cloned whilst in Malaysia in April. I only used it 3 times - at KLIA Duty Free, at the Royal Selangor factory shop and in a "big" department store in Kota Kinabalu. I'm guessing it happened in the last one, but can't be sure. Take care. Elaine |
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Dear Elaine,
I had mine clones when I was making a purchase in Geneva and subsequently someone used the cloned card to make a USD1,000 purchase in Washington. -Alex "Elaine" wrote in message ... "Alfred Molon" wrote in message ... By the way, my wife also told me that I shouldn't use the credit card, even in Sungei Wang or BB Plaza because people might copy the data on it and create a copy. I've never had a fraud case in these past 15 years, but should I perhaps be careful and only use the credit card in big and "established" places ? I had my card cloned whilst in Malaysia in April. I only used it 3 times - at KLIA Duty Free, at the Royal Selangor factory shop and in a "big" department store in Kota Kinabalu. I'm guessing it happened in the last one, but can't be sure. Take care. Elaine |
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Hi Alfred,
I'm Malaysian and has been staying here for 28 years peacefully. Of course there is a crime but not only in Malaysia and of course in every where in this world. We used to hear that about the rumors in the web-press which is totally untrue and sometime they (the reporters) purposely make the stories even to the worst scenario which is totally ridicules. Not to worry, Malaysian is still a safe country with three main races, Malay, Indian & Chinese staying together so far and we hope to leave here peacefully forever. Things that your wife heard might be normal for all the countries (what I mean thefts are every where) just have to be alert and careful. I do travel to overseas even backpacking and seeing nothing like Malaysian where we have a few races, few language and few religious, I even married to different race. Hope this info help you. "Alfred Molon" wrote in message ... Hi, we are flying to KL in December. My Malaysian wife who routinely reads the news in chinapress.com.my keeps telling me that the security situation in KL has worsened substantially over the last few years. When I'm in KL I'm used to go to the Citibank branch in Jalan Ampang even late at night and get larger amounts of cash from the ATM. Now my wife insists that I stop doing that, because she read stories that people will wait near the ATM, then follow people who took larger amounts of cash to steal it from them. She also told me that if you stop with your car at the red traffic light, it can happen that somebody will open the car door, threaten you with a knife and steal your money. And so on. All this makes me wonder if the security situation in KL has really deteriorated so much...? -- Alfred Molon http://www.molon.de/Galleries.htm - Photos from Myanmar, Brunei, Malaysia, Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Nepal, Egypt, Austria, Prague, Budapest and Portugal |
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Definitely Malaysian you are indeed.
"Samantha" wrote in message ... : Hi Alfred, : : I'm Malaysian and has been staying here for 28 years peacefully. Of course : there is a crime but not only in Malaysia and of course in every where in : this world. We used to hear that about the rumors in the web-press which is : totally untrue and sometime they (the reporters) purposely make the stories : even to the worst scenario which is totally ridicules. : : Not to worry, Malaysian is still a safe country with three main races, : Malay, Indian & Chinese staying together so far and we hope to leave here : peacefully forever. Things that your wife heard might be normal for all the : countries (what I mean thefts are every where) just have to be alert and : careful. : : I do travel to overseas even backpacking and seeing nothing like Malaysian : where we have a few races, few language and few religious, I even married to : different race. : : Hope this info help you. : : : : : : "Alfred Molon" wrote in message : ... : Hi, : : we are flying to KL in December. My Malaysian wife who routinely reads : the news in chinapress.com.my keeps telling me that the security : situation in KL has worsened substantially over the last few years. : : When I'm in KL I'm used to go to the Citibank branch in Jalan Ampang : even late at night and get larger amounts of cash from the ATM. Now my : wife insists that I stop doing that, because she read stories that : people will wait near the ATM, then follow people who took larger : amounts of cash to steal it from them. She also told me that if you stop : with your car at the red traffic light, it can happen that somebody will : open the car door, threaten you with a knife and steal your money. And : so on. : : All this makes me wonder if the security situation in KL has really : deteriorated so much...? : -- : : Alfred Molon : : http://www.molon.de/Galleries.htm - Photos from Myanmar, Brunei, : Malaysia, Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Nepal, Egypt, Austria, Prague, : Budapest and Portugal : : --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.769 / Virus Database: 516 - Release Date: 24-09-2004 |
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