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France: 'Best' Health Care?
On Sep 29, 2:56*am, Earl Evleth wrote:
On 29/09/12 1:23, in article , "Raymond" wrote: France: 'Best' Health Care? The French health care system has been dubbed "the best in the world." David Turecamo finds out why the French can afford to get sick. http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4546219n I think I am the only person on this group to have French health care. Most of the American criticism of other health care systems is not from long personal experience and sometimes influenced by the negative coverage by American conservatives. I am mortally ill but my death has been delayed by being in a special treatment program. My French insurance covers 100% of the costs of my medical care, essentially no copays. *My recent installation of a pace maker was 100% covered. My oxygen bills run around $700/month, also completely covered. *This is also true with my drug costs. When I retired we talked over our possible return to the USA for my retirement. *One of the reasons for remaining in France is because the US health care system looked ify to us, too many copay, limitations in which the coverage actually declines if one has a long lasting costly medical problem. Lung translants are a common treatment in the US for Evleth's unfortunate disease of pulmonary fibrosis. from http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/heal...opics/lungtxp/ "... About 1,800 lung transplants were done in the United States in 2010. ..." (one of the highest per population (m) in the world) I have read that France is at the bottom of the barrel ( only 7 lung transplants performed in France for the most recent year I could find). http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/he...ansplants-lung With Evleth political ideology even supercedes the instinct for survival. |
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France: 'Best' Health Care?
PJ O'D wrote: On Sep 29, 2:56 am, Earl Evleth wrote: On 29/09/12 1:23, in article , "Raymond" wrote: France: 'Best' Health Care? The French health care system has been dubbed "the best in the world." David Turecamo finds out why the French can afford to get sick. http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4546219n I think I am the only person on this group to have French health care. Most of the American criticism of other health care systems is not from long personal experience and sometimes influenced by the negative coverage by American conservatives. I am mortally ill but my death has been delayed by being in a special treatment program. My French insurance covers 100% of the costs of my medical care, essentially no copays. My recent installation of a pace maker was 100% covered. My oxygen bills run around $700/month, also completely covered. This is also true with my drug costs. When I retired we talked over our possible return to the USA for my retirement. One of the reasons for remaining in France is because the US health care system looked ify to us, too many copay, limitations in which the coverage actually declines if one has a long lasting costly medical problem. Lung translants are a common treatment in the US for Evleth's unfortunate disease of pulmonary fibrosis. snip With Evleth political ideology even supercedes the instinct for survival. "Political ideology" aside, moron, some of us regard organ transplants as being akin to cannibalism. When science reaches a point where replacement organs can be cloned from one's own tissue, my objection would disappear - until then, no thanks! If my own organs no longer function, maybe it's time to quit - death is, after all, a natural part of living. ("Life is a fatal disease", according to some famous physician whose name escapes me.) FYI, the USA is the ONLY "developed" country in the world that does not regard universal health care as a right for all citizens, not a privilege for the wealthy. (We'd be a lot better off if we could amend the Constitution to eliminate corporate "personhood"!) |
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France: 'Best' Health Care?
On Sep 29, 3:24*pm, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
wrote: PJ O'D wrote: On Sep 29, 2:56 am, Earl Evleth wrote: Lung translants are a common treatment in the US for Evleth's unfortunate disease of pulmonary fibrosis. * * * *snip With Evleth political ideology even supercedes the instinct for survival. FYI, the USA is the ONLY "developed" country in the world that does not regard universal health care as a right for all citizens, not a privilege for the wealthy. Rubbish. You are just broadcasting your gullibility by swallowing the anti American bias that infests Usenet. All Americans over age 65 and disabled Americans qualify for Medicare where the US government pays health providers direct for health care of the elderly and disabled. In addition: http://www.cms.hhs.gov/EMTALA/ Overview "In 1986, Congress enacted the Emergency Medical Treatment & Labor Act (EMTALA) to ensure public access to emergency services regardless of ability to pay. Section 1867 of the Social Security Act imposes specific obligations on Medicare-participating hospitals that offer emergency services to provide a medical screening examination (MSE) when a request is made for examination or treatment for an emergency medical condition (EMC), including active labor, regardless of an individual's ability to pay. Hospitals are then required to provide stabilizing treatment for patients with EMCs. If a hospital is unable to stabilize a patient within its capability, or if the patient requests, an appropriate transfer should be implemented...." In addition: Besides state MEDICAID health care iis available to the poor and many comparable individual state laws which are broader in scope than the federal EMTALA, preceded EMTALA |
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France: 'Best' Health Care?
On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:29:10 -0700 (PDT), "PJ O'D"
wrote: On Sep 29, 3:24*pm, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote: PJ O'D wrote: On Sep 29, 2:56 am, Earl Evleth wrote: Lung translants are a common treatment in the US for Evleth's unfortunate disease of pulmonary fibrosis. * * * *snip With Evleth political ideology even supercedes the instinct for survival. FYI, the USA is the ONLY "developed" country in the world that does not regard universal health care as a right for all citizens, not a privilege for the wealthy. Rubbish. You are just broadcasting your gullibility by swallowing the anti American bias that infests Usenet. All Americans over age 65 and disabled Americans qualify for Medicare where the US government pays health providers direct for health care of the elderly and disabled. Goodness PJ, you really are just a liar. |
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France: 'Best' Health Care?
On 9/29/2012 8:30 PM, Bill wrote:
On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:29:10 -0700 (PDT), "PJ O'D" wrote: All Americans over age 65 and disabled Americans qualify for Medicare where the US government pays health providers direct for health care of the elderly and disabled. Goodness PJ, you really are just a liar. (crossposting snipped) Americans pay into Medicare all their working lives, and when they reach 65, they have to pay every month for doctor coverage. Drug insurance is an additional charge, and the coverage is inadequate for those with chronic conditions. |
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France: 'Best' Health Care?
S Viemeister writes:
On 9/29/2012 8:30 PM, Bill wrote: On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:29:10 -0700 (PDT), "PJ O'D" wrote: All Americans over age 65 and disabled Americans qualify for Medicare where the US government pays health providers direct for health care of the elderly and disabled. Goodness PJ, you really are just a liar. (crossposting snipped) Americans pay into Medicare all their working lives, and when they reach 65, they have to pay every month for doctor coverage. Drug insurance is an additional charge, and the coverage is inadequate for those with chronic conditions. And in spite of that what Medicare pays out for the vast majority of recipients exceeds what they paid in by orders of magnitute. |
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France: 'Best' Health Care?
On Sep 29, 8:30*pm, Bill wrote:
On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:29:10 -0700 (PDT), "PJ O'D" All Americans over age 65 and disabled Americans *qualify for Medicare where the US government pays health providers direct for health care of the elderly and disabled. Goodness PJ, you really are just a liar. Medicare (United States) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Medicare is a national social insurance program, administered by the U.S. federal government since 1965, that guarantees access to health insurance for Americans ages 65 and older and younger people with disabilities as well as people with end stage renal disease. As a social insurance program, Medicare spreads the financial risk associated with illness across society to protect everyone, |
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France: 'Best' Health Care?
On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 03:42:03 -0700 (PDT), "PJ O'D"
wrote: On Sep 29, 8:30*pm, Bill wrote: On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:29:10 -0700 (PDT), "PJ O'D" All Americans over age 65 and disabled Americans *qualify for Medicare where the US government pays health providers direct for health care of the elderly and disabled. Goodness PJ, you really are just a liar. Medicare (United States) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Medicare is a national social insurance program, administered by the U.S. federal government since 1965, that guarantees access to health insurance for Americans ages 65 and older and younger people with disabilities as well as people with end stage renal disease. As a social insurance program, Medicare spreads the financial risk associated with illness across society to protect everyone, Oh shut up you buffoon, we all know US free medical care is neither free nor terribly good. If it was the USA would have higher life expectancy figures than Europe, and it doesn't... |
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France: 'Best' Health Care?
Critics on Runge but nevertheless OT blah about US matters...
Fine lot. "S Viemeister" a écrit dans le message de groupe de discussion : ... On 9/29/2012 8:30 PM, Bill wrote: On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:29:10 -0700 (PDT), "PJ O'D" wrote: All Americans over age 65 and disabled Americans qualify for Medicare where the US government pays health providers direct for health care of the elderly and disabled. Goodness PJ, you really are just a liar. (crossposting snipped) Americans pay into Medicare all their working lives, and when they reach 65, they have to pay every month for doctor coverage. Drug insurance is an additional charge, and the coverage is inadequate for those with chronic conditions. |
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