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Old March 1st, 2004, 10:23 AM
Roland Perry
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In message
s.sympatico.ca, Raffi
Balmanoukian a writes
If the airline is going to have the laudable policy of
accommodating that, they should have enough redundancy at a major gateway
like LAX so that a 747-load isn't prejudiced as a result.


It looked to me as if they did - weren't all the passengers accommodated
same day on other flights? So the actual cash cost would only have been
any compensation paid for the delay - the exact same number of people
and planes made the trip - just that all the paying passengers were on
planes other than the one with just the affected crew.
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Old March 1st, 2004, 11:05 AM
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Mutlley wrote:

a b c wrote:

Air NZ crew heads home alone after LA suicide

25.02.2004
By LOUISA CLEAVE

Thirteen Air New Zealand cabin crew members were flown home from the
United States without their passengers after witnessing a suicide on
their way to work.

Passengers booked on flight NZ3 from Los Angeles to Auckland on Sunday
were put on other Air New Zealand flights after the incident, said Ed
Sims, general manager international airline.

The crew was in a minibus on the way to LAX when a person jumped off
an overbridge and landed on their vehicle.

The person then fell on the highway into the path of traffic.

Mr Sims said the crew went to assist but the person was dead and they
were "faced with a horrific scene".

Gee. What a precious lot. I guess they will need counseling on some
sunny beach for a month before they return to work.

Talk about a pampered group of workers.


Tough guy, Huh? That's interesting, because they are usually the first to
crack when the chips are down.....

Coop


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Old March 1st, 2004, 11:18 AM
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Roland Perry wrote:
It looked to me as if they did - weren't all the passengers accommodated
same day on other flights? So the actual cash cost would only have been
any compensation paid for the delay - the exact same number of people
and planes made the trip - just that all the paying passengers were on
planes other than the one with just the affected crew.


Depends on load factor for other flight and if the other daily flight left
after the "cancelled" one.

For the crew, wouldn't it have been better to have *some* passengers which
would have helped take their mind off the trauma ? For instance, take 50% of
the scheduled pax, and add a psychiatrist to talk to crew between the service
and during crew rest periods.

Passengers would have to know about the crew's experience and asked to
volunteer for that flight.
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Old March 1st, 2004, 11:23 AM
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Depends on [...] if the other daily flight left
after the "cancelled" one.


It must have done, otherwise it couldn't have mopped up all the
passengers who were travelling that day.
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Old March 1st, 2004, 12:50 PM
Miguel Cruz
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Max Burke wrote:
Some of the crew were prepared to work the flight, but it was Air NZ
management that sent them all home on an empty plane... Sending the
aircraft back to NZ empty would have cost Air NZ a lot more that just the
crew's wages they paid out...


Here's what I don't understand - wouldn't it have been cheaper to pay for a
parking spot for 14 hours and fly a new crew out? The traumatized crew could
head home on Qantas.

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Old March 1st, 2004, 12:58 PM
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Miguel Cruz wrote:

Max Burke wrote:

Some of the crew were prepared to work the flight, but it was Air NZ
management that sent them all home on an empty plane... Sending the
aircraft back to NZ empty would have cost Air NZ a lot more that just the
crew's wages they paid out...



Here's what I don't understand - wouldn't it have been cheaper to pay for a
parking spot for 14 hours and fly a new crew out? The traumatized crew could
head home on Qantas.


Maybe they didn't want to delay the plane's next scheduled trip from
Auckland.

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Old March 1st, 2004, 02:03 PM
Raffi Balmanoukian
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in article , John Ewing at
none@needed wrote on 3/1/04 4:27 AM:


"Raffi Balmanoukian" a
wrote in message
news:BC681CA2.2147C%walkabout@TAKEOUTTHETRASHTOREP LY.ns.sympatico.ca...


Mr Sims said the passengers due to fly on NZ3 would have experienced
delays of up to four hours.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydispl...tion=news&t h
esubsection=general


Assuming AKL was their final destination. For those making connections it
could be heavens-knows-what


Keep it in perspective - this was a one-off. Bad weather and aircraft
equipment defects cause thousands of flight delays and cancellations every
year.


People understand weather delays, etc. (I just went through that a little
over a week ago - YHZ was completely shut down for two days. Not one of the
hundreds of people in the terminal was ticked at the cancellation but a few
were ticked at Air Canada because they were the only airline with nobody at
the counter).

I WOULD be angry at the airline for canceling a flight because their crew
"saw a nasty thing" a bit earlier.

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Old March 1st, 2004, 04:20 PM
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On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 13:03:18 GMT, Raffi Balmanoukian
a wrote:

in article , John Ewing at
none@needed wrote on 3/1/04 4:27 AM:


"Raffi Balmanoukian" a
wrote in message
news:BC681CA2.2147C%walkabout@TAKEOUTTHETRASHTOREP LY.ns.sympatico.ca...


Mr Sims said the passengers due to fly on NZ3 would have experienced
delays of up to four hours.


http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydispl...tion=news&t h
esubsection=general


Assuming AKL was their final destination. For those making connections it
could be heavens-knows-what


Keep it in perspective - this was a one-off. Bad weather and aircraft
equipment defects cause thousands of flight delays and cancellations every
year.


People understand weather delays, etc. (I just went through that a little
over a week ago - YHZ was completely shut down for two days. Not one of the
hundreds of people in the terminal was ticked at the cancellation but a few
were ticked at Air Canada because they were the only airline with nobody at
the counter).


I WOULD be angry at the airline for canceling a flight because their crew
"saw a nasty thing" a bit earlier.


LOL. Demanding little buggar aren't you.

Aren't you an attorney?
If so, and it had happened to you, I'd expect you would sue them?

What is more important to you? Passenger safety or you getting your
way?

Cath
 




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