American Airlines' Preaching Pilot

rom wrote:

American Airlines pilot suggests passengers discuss Christianity
Associated Press

NEW YORK - An American Airlines pilot flying passengers to New York asked
Christians on board to identify themselves and suggested the non-Christians
discuss the faith with them, a spokesman for the Fort Worth, Texas-based airline
said Saturday.

Flight 34 was headed from Los Angeles to John F. Kennedy Airport on Friday
afternoon, said spokesman Tim Wagner. The pilot, whose identity was not
released, had been making flight announcements and then asked that the
Christians on board raise their hands, Wagner said.

The pilot told the airline that he then suggested the other passengers use the
flight time to talk to the identified Christians about their faith, Wagner said.

The pilot later told passengers he would be available at the end of the flight
to talk about his first announcement.

Wagner said the airline was investigating the incident, and that the company had
guidelines about appropriate behavior. He said the pilot had just returned to
work from a weeklong mission trip to Costa Rica.

"It falls along the lines of a personal level of sharing that may not be
appropriate for one of our employees to do while on the job," Wagner said.

....brainwashed pilots! makes me shudder!



http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/...te/7900122.htm

Douglas Berry wrote:
When I fly, I'm paying the airline to transport me from point A to
point B in a safe, comfortable manner. Being a captive audience when
the religious nutso pilot pretty much tells the Christians on the
plane to bug the non-Christians for the entire flight would **** me
off.. I'd file a lawsuit against American had I been on that flight.


A lawsuit??? Were you really harmed by this? Do you think it AA condones
this behavior? Clearly, the pilot did this on his own. It was in poor
taste, perhaps, but certainly nothing to sue over.

BTR1701 wrote:


You could file a lawsuit but you'd have no grounds for it. American
Airlines is a private company. They can plaster the inside of their
airplane cabins with bible verses if that's what they want to do.

Or they could put something religious to read on your dinner/snack
tray.... Nah, no airline would do that.. (wink)

"Yaofeng" wrote in message
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American Airlines pilot suggests passengers discuss Christianity
Associated Press

NEW YORK - An American Airlines pilot flying passengers to New York
asked
Christians on board to identify themselves and suggested the
non-Christians
discuss the faith with them, a spokesman for the Fort Worth, Texas-based
airline
said Saturday.

Flight 34 was headed from Los Angeles to John F. Kennedy Airport on
Friday
afternoon, said spokesman Tim Wagner. The pilot, whose identity was not
released, had been making flight announcements and then asked that the
Christians on board raise their hands, Wagner said.

The pilot told the airline that he then suggested the other passengers
use the
flight time to talk to the identified Christians about their faith,
Wagner said.

The pilot later told passengers he would be available at the end of the
flight
to talk about his first announcement.

Wagner said the airline was investigating the incident, and that the
company had
guidelines about appropriate behavior. He said the pilot had just
returned to
work from a weeklong mission trip to Costa Rica.

"It falls along the lines of a personal level of sharing that may not be
appropriate for one of our employees to do while on the job," Wagner
said.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/...te/7900122.htm

What he did may not be appropriate. But he was not preaching. He
asked Christians on board the flight to share their faith with others.

What the pilot did was totally wrong and insulting. He
waited until all his passengers were trapped in the plane,
then told one group to proselytize to everyone who didn't
belong to that group whether the group being proselytized
to wanted this or not. That is invasion of privacy under
conditions of entrapment. The pilot should be fired.
What he did was definitely not part of his job specs. I can
only hope that the Christians on board the plane didn't do what
he suggested.

wrote:

Heck, imagine if the pilot had been Madelyn O'Hair and she did the same
thing . . . geez, I'd pay full price for a ticket on that plane just for the
entertainment . . .
--Tock


It would be interesting.. After all, she died in 1995.

None wrote:


Sorry, they are a PUBLIC company, publicly traded on the stock exchange, and
HEAVILY regulated by the FAA and the DOT.

OK, but what would the suit be for? The constitution restricts
government from endorsing religion, not an airline.

On 7 Feb 2004 18:02:36 -0800, (Yaofeng) wrote:

What he did may not be appropriate. But he was not preaching. He
asked Christians on board the flight to share their faith with others.
This is very appropriate. Had the pilot been a Hindu asking the same
thing, he would have been fired upon arrival.

On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 03:10:14 GMT, Fruity Nutcake
wrote:

On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 21:00:38 -0600, Daniel Kolle
wrote:

What he did may not be appropriate. But he was not preaching. He
asked Christians on board the flight to share their faith with others.

You could argue, I suppose, that since he did not force anyone to
convert he did nothing wrong. I guess.

How do you "force" someone to convert on an airplane?
Easy. Ask all the non believers to wait outside.

Lo, many moons past, on Sun, 08 Feb 2004 00:44:01 GMT, a stranger
called by some BTR1701 came forth and told
this tale in alt.atheism

In article , Douglas Berry
wrote:

When I fly, I'm paying the airline to transport me from point A to
point B in a safe, comfortable manner. Being a captive audience when
the religious nutso pilot pretty much tells the Christians on the
plane to bug the non-Christians for the entire flight would **** me
off.. I'd file a lawsuit against American had I been on that flight.

You could file a lawsuit but you'd have no grounds for it. American
Airlines is a private company. They can plaster the inside of their
airplane cabins with bible verses if that's what they want to do.

Yup, the way Alaska does.

But in this case, the captain created a hostile environment by
encouraging prostelyzation when I was unable to leave.

--

Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5

Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"

In article ,
rom wrote:

American Airlines pilot suggests passengers discuss Christianity
Associated Press

NEW YORK - An American Airlines pilot flying passengers to New York asked
Christians on board to identify themselves and suggested the non-Christians
discuss the faith with them, a spokesman for the Fort Worth, Texas-based
airline
said Saturday.

Flight 34 was headed from Los Angeles to John F. Kennedy Airport on Friday
afternoon, said spokesman Tim Wagner. The pilot, whose identity was not
released, had been making flight announcements and then asked that the
Christians on board raise their hands, Wagner said.

The pilot told the airline that he then suggested the other passengers use
the
flight time to talk to the identified Christians about their faith, Wagner
said.

The pilot later told passengers he would be available at the end of the
flight
to talk about his first announcement.

Wagner said the airline was investigating the incident, and that the company
had
guidelines about appropriate behavior. He said the pilot had just returned to
work from a weeklong mission trip to Costa Rica.

"It falls along the lines of a personal level of sharing that may not be
appropriate for one of our employees to do while on the job," Wagner said.

http://www.dfw.com/mld/startelegram/...te/7900122.htm

I hope that the pilot is suspended for inappropriate proselytizing. What
next? The flight attendants leading the passengers in prayer after the
pre flight check?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782

"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, bit in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken