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Old September 29th, 2003, 11:13 PM
Richard Summer
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My wife and I are going to Sweden on December 22 to pick up our new
Volvo. We plan to drive to Copenhagen for a couple of days-then on to
Germany, Austria, etc. We are going at that time because it's the only
time that we both can get away for 2 weeks. A friend who has travelled
that area in the winter seems to think that we won't enjoy the
possible bitter cold, short days, and the fact that perhaps some
places will be closed for the holidays.My wife and I have taken many
driving trips in the U.S.-although never during prolonged snowstorms.
Please-any input or general suggestions will be appreciated. -Thanks
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Old September 30th, 2003, 06:43 AM
Judith Umbria
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"Richard Summer" wrote in message
om...
My wife and I are going to Sweden on December 22 to pick up our new
Volvo. We plan to drive to Copenhagen for a couple of days-then on to
Germany, Austria, etc. We are going at that time because it's the only
time that we both can get away for 2 weeks. A friend who has travelled
that area in the winter seems to think that we won't enjoy the
possible bitter cold, short days, and the fact that perhaps some
places will be closed for the holidays.My wife and I have taken many
driving trips in the U.S.-although never during prolonged snowstorms.
Please-any input or general suggestions will be appreciated. -Thanks


The only time I have ever been to Norway was in January. I thought it was
great. Since winter is such a long thing there, I figured why not
experience it? They've lots of experience handling winter and make it easy
if you are dressed well for the cold. At least it doesn't rain on you. I
did wear fleece-lined hiking boots and trousers and was happy I did so. On
the other hand, when having tea in a beautiful teashop, I saw ladies dressed
as if they were in Paris, high heels and nylons. I feel sure they hadn't
stopped in from a day-long walkabout in Oslo. As to the opening/closing
issue, I expect it is like anywhere. Things near hotels will tend to be
open whereas many small family-run establishments will close.


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Old September 30th, 2003, 03:44 PM
Markku Grönroos
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"?ystein" wrote in message
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As long as you are properly dressed the cold isn't that problem. The
snow makes the nights lighter, than when it is no snow. There is a big
difference between Norway/Sweden and Denmark though. In Denmark and
the lowlands of Germany and Austria you will hardly ever experience
any snow and the winters is greyer and rainier than in Norway/Sweden.


I guess you can see snow every now and then in Denmark. Actually about every
winter I think. There has been snowing as far south as Jerusalem, the Canary
Islands and Guadalajara (large city deep in Mexico). In these places it
snows very rarely. Not so in Denmark though. Sea can be an interesting
factor too. For instance the Atlantic keeps Norwegian ports open the year
round to the northenmost tip, isn't this right ?

The southern/western areas of Norway/Sweden will also tend to be more
grey/rainy than the eastern/northern parts that is generally colder
and have more snow. In the ski sports areas in Northern Europe the
wintertime is the high season of obvious reasons.

Jan



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Old September 30th, 2003, 05:31 PM
Keith Willshaw
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"Richard Summer" wrote in message
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My wife and I are going to Sweden on December 22 to pick up our new
Volvo. We plan to drive to Copenhagen for a couple of days-then on to
Germany, Austria, etc. We are going at that time because it's the only
time that we both can get away for 2 weeks. A friend who has travelled
that area in the winter seems to think that we won't enjoy the
possible bitter cold, short days, and the fact that perhaps some
places will be closed for the holidays.My wife and I have taken many
driving trips in the U.S.-although never during prolonged snowstorms.
Please-any input or general suggestions will be appreciated. -Thanks


The weather in Southern Sweden , Denmark and Germany
will be realatively mild in comparison to that prevailing
in the US Mid West at that time of year. My recollection
of Chicago in December is a climate more akin to
that of Moscow than Copenhagen or Stockholm

Keith


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Old September 30th, 2003, 11:16 PM
?ystein
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"Markku Grönroos" wrote in message ...
"?ystein" wrote in message
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As long as you are properly dressed the cold isn't that problem. The
snow makes the nights lighter, than when it is no snow. There is a big
difference between Norway/Sweden and Denmark though. In Denmark and
the lowlands of Germany and Austria you will hardly ever experience
any snow and the winters is greyer and rainier than in Norway/Sweden.


I guess you can see snow every now and then in Denmark. Actually about every
winter I think. There has been snowing as far south as Jerusalem, the Canary
Islands and Guadalajara (large city deep in Mexico). In these places it
snows very rarely. Not so in Denmark though. Sea can be an interesting
factor too. For instance the Atlantic keeps Norwegian ports open the year
round to the northenmost tip, isn't this right ?


Well, you are of course right about that. I seriusly doubt though,
that this is really the point in this context. In Denmark the winters
are mostly grey and rainy. If there is any snow they make a mess in
traffic and are followed by even greyer and wetter weather. If you go
there in winter, I know from living there for 3 winters that you
shouldn't rely on outdoors activities. Even if you should excerience
many days in a row with great amounts of snow, the terrain is to flat
for many winter sports activities.

In Norway, Sweden and Finland (except from some southern/western
parts) you will probably have lots of excellent oportunities for
winter sports. Do as the Danes, get properly dressed and go ;-).

Jan
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Old October 1st, 2003, 03:36 PM
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Subject: Are we crazy? BRBR
Not if you ask. It's the people who are sure they are sane (or right) all the
time who are crazy.
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Old October 5th, 2003, 04:45 PM
Mason Barge
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On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:31:30 +0100, "Keith Willshaw"
wrote:


"Richard Summer" wrote in message
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My wife and I are going to Sweden on December 22 to pick up our new
Volvo. We plan to drive to Copenhagen for a couple of days-then on to
Germany, Austria, etc. We are going at that time because it's the only
time that we both can get away for 2 weeks. A friend who has travelled
that area in the winter seems to think that we won't enjoy the
possible bitter cold, short days, and the fact that perhaps some
places will be closed for the holidays.My wife and I have taken many
driving trips in the U.S.-although never during prolonged snowstorms.
Please-any input or general suggestions will be appreciated. -Thanks


The weather in Southern Sweden , Denmark and Germany
will be realatively mild in comparison to that prevailing
in the US Mid West at that time of year. My recollection
of Chicago in December is a climate more akin to
that of Moscow than Copenhagen or Stockholm

Keith


I don't agree and would say Chicago would only be slightly colder (3
degrees C) and windier than Copenhagen in December. On the positive
side, it is sunnier and the days are longer. I really wouldn't want
to be either place in December, but if I had to pick one it would be
Chicago I guess.

I haven't been to Moscow in the winter but I understand it is
miserable.

As to the original post, I would go some other time. Better one good
week than two bad ones.

Mason Barge

"If this is coffee, please bring me some tea. If this is tea, please bring me some coffee."
-- Abraham Lincoln
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Old October 9th, 2003, 12:07 AM
Jesper Lauridsen
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On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 15:45:43 GMT, Mason Barge wrote:

I don't agree and would say Chicago would only be slightly colder (3
degrees C) and windier than Copenhagen in December.


Average December lows for Copenhagen is 0. For Chicago it's -6.
Average precipitation is 40% higher in Chicago.

As to the original post, I would go some other time. Better one good
week than two bad ones.


They aren't planning a beach holiday.

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Old October 20th, 2003, 05:02 PM
Bjorn Olsson
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Mason Barge wrote in message . ..
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:31:30 +0100, "Keith Willshaw"
wrote:


"Richard Summer" wrote in message
. com...
My wife and I are going to Sweden on December 22 to pick up our new
Volvo. We plan to drive to Copenhagen for a couple of days-then on to
Germany, Austria, etc. We are going at that time because it's the only
time that we both can get away for 2 weeks. A friend who has travelled
that area in the winter seems to think that we won't enjoy the
possible bitter cold, short days, and the fact that perhaps some
places will be closed for the holidays.My wife and I have taken many
driving trips in the U.S.-although never during prolonged snowstorms.
Please-any input or general suggestions will be appreciated. -Thanks


The weather in Southern Sweden , Denmark and Germany
will be realatively mild in comparison to that prevailing
in the US Mid West at that time of year. My recollection
of Chicago in December is a climate more akin to
that of Moscow than Copenhagen or Stockholm

Keith


I don't agree and would say Chicago would only be slightly colder (3
degrees C) and windier than Copenhagen in December. On the positive
side, it is sunnier and the days are longer. I really wouldn't want
to be either place in December, but if I had to pick one it would be
Chicago I guess.

I haven't been to Moscow in the winter but I understand it is
miserable.


No, it is just cold. Real winter weather with proper sub-freezing
temperatures and lots of snow is much nicer than what we get in
southern Sweden during winter, i.e. most of the time just above
freezing and very often rain combined with windy conditions - _that's_
miserable!

Bjorn
 




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