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Chinese (and other) pilots unable to speak English pose danger for air travel (CNN)
Cubdriver usenet AT danford DOT net writes:
Most tests are, unless they are intended for folks who can't read. (Putting round pegs into round holes would be non-verbal. Checking off "round hole" to the question "which hole does this peg go into?" is verbal.) But perhaps you meant "oral"? I was simply using the same term CNN used. I don't know exactly what they might have meant by it, but I presume they meant oral. |
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Chinese (and other) pilots unable to speak English pose danger for air travel (CNN)
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Hash: SHA1 In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote: A Guy Called Tyketto writes: Plus, Anthony, 4 words. Common. Traffic. Advisory. Frequency. CTAF is not ATC. It doesn't need to be. Your exact quote: You're not supposed to require any communication with anyone other than ATC, so if you need to hear other pilots on the frequency, there is a problem. On the CTAF, you need to be able to be in communication with everyone other than ATC, (meaning, hearing other pilots on frequency). If you don't, there is a problem. Threaded newsreaders, as well as USENET archives, are so fun and easy to abuse. BL. - -- Brad Littlejohn | Email: Unix Systems Administrator, | Web + NewsMaster, BOFH.. Smeghead! | http://www.wizard.com/~tyketto PGP: 1024D/E319F0BF 6980 AAD6 7329 E9E6 D569 F620 C819 199A E319 F0BF -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGhzuKyBkZmuMZ8L8RAq27AKD1SSuSIgNkhI8kxtyWSD DPzDMRwACdEo7x QDbySmRquf5KKhZNnp5bPts= =ma/n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Chinese (and other) pilots unable to speak English pose danger for air travel (CNN)
A Guy Called Tyketto writes:
On the CTAF, you need to be able to be in communication with everyone other than ATC, (meaning, hearing other pilots on frequency). CTAF is not an ATC frequency. |
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Chinese (and other) pilots unable to speak English pose danger for air travel (CNN)
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Hash: SHA1 In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote: A Guy Called Tyketto writes: On the CTAF, you need to be able to be in communication with everyone other than ATC, (meaning, hearing other pilots on frequency). CTAF is not an ATC frequency. http://www.fordyce.org/scanning/scan...o/govtuse.html - --snip-- Aeronautical mobile service spectrum requirements are accommodated mostly in the HF (3-23 MHz) and VHF (117.975-137 MHz) portion of the radio spectrum. The VHF band provides the primary communications mode for Air Traffic Service (ATS) and Aeronautical Operational Control (AOC) safety communications for all areas of the world where radio line-of-sight services can be established. In the United States, this band is used by Federal Aviation Administration to provide ATS safety communications and by users such as, the airlines, business aviation, and general aviation to provide AOC safety communications. - --snip-- This covers all frequencies reserved for air traffic and control of such traffic, and implies that any of such frequencies can and may be used for *air traffic control*. Furthermo - --snip-- Each communications frequency is re-used as often as possible (due to the fixed number of available frequencies) so that continuous coverage can be established to support air traffic control systems. - --snip-- You will find that all CTAFs for various fields are within the above VHF range for such coverage for ATC systems. You will also find that most CTAF frequencies at fields that close for the night also are the Tower frequency for that field. In short, you are wrong. But I'm pretty sure you will argue that the information on that page is wrong, just like you do everything else in this world. Oh, btw.. Humidity was 30% in Oklahoma City today, and guess what.. it didn't rain! BL. - -- Brad Littlejohn | Email: Unix Systems Administrator, | Web + NewsMaster, BOFH.. Smeghead! | http://www.wizard.com/~tyketto PGP: 1024D/E319F0BF 6980 AAD6 7329 E9E6 D569 F620 C819 199A E319 F0BF -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGiJlhyBkZmuMZ8L8RAg6nAKD56/TAbroHXkRusD0TAgM6mJ+NVgCfdFdt i7FOfNYa8MKr0mYt4rH24U8= =Vlif -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |
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Chinese (and other) pilots unable to speak English pose danger for air travel (CNN)
Mxsmanic wrote:
Dallas writes: About 1/4 of the Dallas cable TV channels are in Spanish. As hard as it may be for residents of the city to accept, there is more to the world outside of Dallas. Well, there is at least one thing NOT outside the Dallas area. The Dallas cable TV system. |
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Chinese (and other) pilots unable to speak English pose danger for air travel (CNN)
On Jun 30, 12:56 pm, Cubdriver usenet AT danford DOT net wrote:
Unknown voice from another plane (in a beautiful British accent): "Because you lost the bloody war." My son-in-law (who is English) tells this story: A German in an AWACS over Afghanistan picks up a call from a boat in the Bay of Bengal: "I'm sinking! I'm sinking!" To which the controller replied in an interested voice: "And vat are you sinking about?" That's a commercial for a European company that does English instruction. There is another one that is really funny too. A family (mom, dad, teens) are sitting in a car and turn on an English radio station. The song goes something like "I want to do you up the $@#". The whole family is singing along having a great time. The caption reads something like "Time to learn English". ;: ! Some of the funniest commercials you've ever seen. I think the company is called Beritz and is in Germany. -Robert |
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Chinese (and other) pilots unable to speak English pose danger for air travel (CNN)
On Jul 2, 2:37 pm, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:
On Jun 30, 12:56 pm, Cubdriver usenet AT danford DOT net wrote: Unknown voice from another plane (in a beautiful British accent): "Because you lost the bloody war." My son-in-law (who is English) tells this story: A German in an AWACS over Afghanistan picks up a call from a boat in the Bay of Bengal: "I'm sinking! I'm sinking!" To which the controller replied in an interested voice: "And vat are you sinking about?" That's a commercial for a European company that does English instruction. There is another one that is really funny too. A family (mom, dad, teens) are sitting in a car and turn on an English radio station. The song goes something like "I want to do you up the $@#". The whole family is singing along having a great time. The caption reads something like "Time to learn English". ;: ! Some of the funniest commercials you've ever seen. I think the company is called Beritz and is in Germany. -Robert Here they are http://youtube.com/watch?v=IuSELsBd6h4 (explicit lyrics but really funny) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKPSsz_kyCc&NR=1 (funny and ok for the kids) -Robert |
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Chinese (and other) pilots unable to speak English pose danger for air travel (CNN)
A Guy Called Tyketto writes:
This covers all frequencies reserved for air traffic and control of such traffic, and implies that any of such frequencies can and may be used for *air traffic control*. CTAF is not an ATC frequency. It is used by pilots when ATC is not available. In short, you are wrong. Just as I was wrong about the sun in Paris setting later than it does in Las Vegas on the solstice? |
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Chinese (and other) pilots unable to speak English pose danger for air travel (CNN)
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
news A Guy Called Tyketto writes: This covers all frequencies reserved for air traffic and control of such traffic, and implies that any of such frequencies can and may be used for *air traffic control*. CTAF is not an ATC frequency. It is used by pilots when ATC is not available. Did you even read what he posted? What part of "all frequencies reserved for air traffic and control of such traffic" didn't you understand. Just as I was wrong about the sun in Paris setting later than it does in Las Vegas on the solstice? Stupid people are sometimes right. |
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Chinese (and other) pilots unable to speak English pose danger for air travel (CNN)
Uh, the sun always sets later in Las Vegas than in Paris if On Jul 2,
8:13 pm, "El Maximo" wrote: "Mxsmanic" wrote in message news A Guy Called Tyketto writes: This covers all frequencies reserved for air traffic and control of such traffic, and implies that any of such frequencies can and may be used for *air traffic control*. CTAF is not an ATC frequency. It is used by pilots when ATC is not available. Did you even read what he posted? What part of "all frequencies reserved for air traffic and control of such traffic" didn't you understand. Just as I was wrong about the sun in Paris setting later than it does in Las Vegas on the solstice? Stupid people are sometimes right. |
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