FBI: Flight Diverted After NYC Woman Lights Up

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 21:36:51 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

John Kulp writes:

So everyone that drinks on an airplane is a drunken slob huh? Funny,
I haven't seen one onboard in years.

Flight attendants see them all the time, and they are a threat to the safety
of flights.

They do huh? Taken a survey did you that you can send us all
independent of your hand waving?

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:20:32 +0100, (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

Mxsmanic wrote:

John Kulp writes:

So everyone that drinks on an airplane is a drunken slob huh? Funny,
I haven't seen one onboard in years.

Flight attendants see them all the time, and they are a threat to the safety
of flights.

They are a neglible threat, based on statistics.

You got the wrong guy David. He can't count either.

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:04:21 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) writes:

They are a neglible threat, based on statistics.

Most problems are unreported.

Like you, for instance?

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:11:22 +0100, (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

Mxsmanic wrote:

David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) writes:

They are a neglible threat, based on statistics.

Most problems are unreported.

Airline crashes are. And at least in this country, when an aircraft
diverts due to drunken passengers, that's reported too, as are reports
of passengers being arrested on non-diverted flights, celebrities or
not. Personally, I'd want to make sure I was never on a flight with
Penelope Cruz, but I might be in a minority.

Or Neve Campbell, or........

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:15:04 GMT, Larry in AZ
wrote:

Waiving the right to remain silent, (David Horne, _the_
chancellor (*)) said:

Mxsmanic wrote:

David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) writes:

They are a neglible threat, based on statistics.

Most problems are unreported.

Airline crashes are. And at least in this country, when an aircraft
diverts due to drunken passengers, that's reported too, as are reports
of passengers being arrested on non-diverted flights, celebrities or
not. Personally, I'd want to make sure I was never on a flight with
Penelope Cruz, but I might be in a minority.

I'd find a place for her to sit...

Talk about delusions of grandeur.

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:07:57 +0100, (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

John Kulp wrote:

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:15:16 +0100, (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:

Mxsmanic wrote:

John Kulp writes:

So why don't you take a vote of all airline passengers and see if they
want that?

It's not that important to me.

You probably will find at least 5 out of millions that
will agree with your absurd views.

Actually, a significant segment of the public doesn't drink, and a
significant part of the remainder probably doesn't like the idea of
people getting drunk on aircraft.

No sane person likes the idea of people getting drunk on aircraft. Most
sane people, however, don't conflate airlines serving alcohol with
people getting drunk while flying on them. Indeed, as someone who flies
as a passenger quite a bit, rather than piloting 'aircraft' via a
joystick in a Parisian chambre de bonne, the only problems I've
encountered with drunk passengers (albeit not serious problems) have
involved said passengers getting tanked up before boarding. I'd say
people should be more concerned about _that_ and the boarding
procedures, than whether or not airlines serve alcohol on board.

That is very true and most of problems like this I have seen reported
involved just such people. Agents are supposed to keep and eye out
for them before they board and flight attendants are supposed to deny
them drink if they manage to get onboard.

Admittedly, this is often difficult if the person is reasonably well
behaved. Smelling of booze may likely get a pilot reported, but not a
passenger, a few middle east airlines notwithstanding.

Also true. I have know some alcoholics who can be completely blotto
but you'd never notice them, being pros at the job.


Frankly, given all the current hassle of air travel, drunken passengers
are the least of my concerns, and for sure, authorities will generally
take a dim view on such people... unless, they're celebrities, then they
can usually plead special circumstances and end up doing community
service or something...

True. This is much ado over nothing statistically.

"John Kulp" wrote in message
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:18:07 -0500, "Buster" wrote:


"Larry in AZ" wrote in message
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Waiving the right to remain silent, Mxsmanic said:

John Kulp writes:

So join his club of social outcasts then.

People who drink alcohol rarely or not at all aren't that exceptional
in
the United States. And even those who drink may not consider it a
smart
idea in the confined space of an aircraft in flight, where drunks can
cause serious problems.

There are plenty of reports of drunks causing problems on aircraft.
Look
them up, it's easy.

Mr. Kulp hasn't experienced one himself, so he regards it as
inconsequential.

He's been too ****ing drunk to notice.



Another NG genius demonstrates his complete stupidity. I rarely drink
at all moron, whether on an aircraft or not.

Then it must be drugs. Something has turned you into a complete asshole.

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:49:30 GMT, Larry in AZ
wrote:

Waiving the right to remain silent, (John Kulp)
said:

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 22:15:04 GMT, Larry in AZ
wrote:

Waiving the right to remain silent, (David Horne,
_the_ chancellor (*)) said:

Mxsmanic wrote:

David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) writes:

They are a neglible threat, based on statistics.

Most problems are unreported.

Airline crashes are. And at least in this country, when an aircraft
diverts due to drunken passengers, that's reported too, as are reports
of passengers being arrested on non-diverted flights, celebrities or
not. Personally, I'd want to make sure I was never on a flight with
Penelope Cruz, but I might be in a minority.

I'd find a place for her to sit...

Talk about delusions of grandeur.

I've dated some actresses, one I'm sure you know, but I'm not a
name-dropper. ;-)

C'mon. End the suspense. Drop the name.

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:52:33 GMT, Larry in AZ
wrote:

Waiving the right to remain silent, (John Kulp)
said:

On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 19:53:30 GMT, Larry in AZ
wrote:

Waiving the right to remain silent, Mxsmanic said:

John Kulp writes:

So join his club of social outcasts then.

People who drink alcohol rarely or not at all aren't that exceptional
in the United States. And even those who drink may not consider it a
smart idea in the confined space of an aircraft in flight, where
drunks can cause serious problems.

There are plenty of reports of drunks causing problems on aircraft.
Look them up, it's easy.

Mr. Kulp hasn't experienced one himself, so he regards it as
inconsequential.

There are thousands upon thousands upon thousands of flights daily in
the US alone and you can't come up with enough of these incidents to
be anywhere near materially. I can guarantee you that there are a lot
more maintenance problems a day than you will find drunks being a
problem and--surprise, surprise--I am a lot more concerned about real
problems like those than imaginary infintesimal ones.

And nobody's ever gotten cancer from "second-hand smoke" on a flight, but
they banned smoking, didn't they..?

What second hand smoke has to do with having a drink on an airplane, I
don't know.

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:53:29 -0500, "Buster" wrote:


"John Kulp" wrote in message
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:18:07 -0500, "Buster" wrote:


"Larry in AZ" wrote in message
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Waiving the right to remain silent, Mxsmanic said:

John Kulp writes:

So join his club of social outcasts then.

People who drink alcohol rarely or not at all aren't that exceptional
in
the United States. And even those who drink may not consider it a
smart
idea in the confined space of an aircraft in flight, where drunks can
cause serious problems.

There are plenty of reports of drunks causing problems on aircraft.
Look
them up, it's easy.

Mr. Kulp hasn't experienced one himself, so he regards it as
inconsequential.

He's been too ****ing drunk to notice.



Another NG genius demonstrates his complete stupidity. I rarely drink
at all moron, whether on an aircraft or not.

Then it must be drugs. Something has turned you into a complete asshole.



Unlike you who was born that way.