Mum accused of trafficking daughter in airline blunder

Desperate Rachelle then bought more tickets after being assured by Ryanair
staff that she could travel with Aria if she produced a birth certificate,
but when she arrived for check in they refused to allow her to board.


I have never been allowed to board at check-in either :-)

In message , at
20:45:16 on Tue, 28 Feb 2006, poldy remarked:
So you can get passports for 3-week old infants?

Yes. And I have stood in line at the US Embassy in London (where there
is little privacy accorded to applicants) and seen mothers with such
infants applying for a passport.

Isn't EU suppose to be all integrated? Why require passports for moving
a few hundred miles?

They aren't required for the majority of border crossings. A national ID
card (which is compulsory in many EU countries just to live there) will
suffice.
--
Roland Perry

On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:45:16 -0800, poldy wrote:

So you can get passports for 3-week old infants?

Yes, and now they're required in most countries.

Isn't EU suppose to be all integrated? Why require passports for moving
a few hundred miles?

The mother was travelling on an Australian passport, and neither she
nor the baby was a citizen of the EU. Well, maybe the baby was, as its
father was Italian.
--
Barbara Vaughan
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Following up to poldy

Isn't EU suppose to be all integrated?

Americans often think so.

Why require passports for moving
a few hundred miles?

In a car you often wouldn't, on a plane you will require ID.
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Miss L. Toe wrote:

But was she told clearly in Auusie English that she needed a passport for
the baby, or was she told in broken Italian English that she needed
documentation for the baby ?

What do you suppose the Italian word for passport is?

Oh yeah, it's "passaporto"(If you don't believe me, look it up)



why would she rely on Ryanair's advice the second time?


Because they spoke more understandable English that the Italian gun-carrying
authorities who had already (maybe) told her she needed documentation.


Do you think that maybe, after this experience with the "gun-carrying
authorities", that she would get her travel info for the second trip
from someone other than Ryanair?

On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 08:22:22 -0000, "Miss L. Toe"
wrote:

But was she told clearly in Auusie English that she needed a passport for
the baby, or was she told in broken Italian English that she needed
documentation for the baby ?

Are you saying Aussies can't understand the King's English, so to
speak?

The word for passport in Italian is "passoporto", which is
sufficiently similar to "passport" that there should no doubt as to
the meaning.

Because they spoke more understandable English that the Italian gun-carrying
authorities who had already (maybe) told her she needed documentation.

What was the baby's Italian father doing while all this was going on?
Surely he should have been able to give his wife some advice, or
didn't they have telephones either?

--
Barbara Vaughan
My email address is my first initial followed by my surname at libero dot it
I answer travel questions only in the newsgroup

Roland Perry wrote:

So perhaps the lady asked the airline, and they erroneously said "a
birth certificate is OK for a newborn infant".


She claimed that originally the airline said no documentation required.
Given the trouble during the first trip, do you think she should have
verified the info from another source?

Following up to mrtravel

Why did she trust thier advice for the second journey?

it seems improbable, perhaps a journalist is exaggerating or
slanting something for a better story?
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Following up to Roland Perry

Isn't EU suppose to be all integrated? Why require passports for moving
a few hundred miles?

They aren't required for the majority of border crossings. A national ID
card (which is compulsory in many EU countries just to live there) will
suffice.

the majority of border crossings I've made recently didnt require
anything, not even stopping the car.
--
Mike Reid
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B Vaughan wrote:

On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 08:22:22 -0000, "Miss L. Toe"
wrote:


But was she told clearly in Auusie English that she needed a passport for
the baby, or was she told in broken Italian English that she needed
documentation for the baby ?


Are you saying Aussies can't understand the King's English, so to
speak?

The word for passport in Italian is "passoporto", which is
sufficiently similar to "passport" that there should no doubt as to
the meaning.


Because they spoke more understandable English that the Italian gun-carrying
authorities who had already (maybe) told her she needed documentation.


What was the baby's Italian father doing while all this was going on?
Surely he should have been able to give his wife some advice, or
didn't they have telephones either?


Sure they have phones in Italy. They are usually found in the hand not
holding the cigarette, but sometimes the same hand is holding both.