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TehGhodTrol wrote:
This message was cancelled from within Mozilla.

This message was cancelled from within Mozilla.

Oh, did I tell you that I have exclusive rights to the rainx.cjb.net doamin
and that you are using my doamin without my permission? Tut! Tut! Tut! They
call that fraud.


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TehGhodTrole wrote:

TehGhodTrol wrote:
This message was cancelled from within Mozilla.

This message was cancelled from within Mozilla.

Oh, did I tell you that I have exclusive rights to the rainx.cjb.net doamin
and that you are using my doamin without my permission? Tut! Tut! Tut! They
call that fraud.

This is who has been cancelling your messages. He posts in rec.travel.air as
"nobody" (real name JF Mezei) and is a deranged netkook who has been caught
issuing rogue cancels before. Read up on how to report him:

==============================
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

About

J F M E Z E I
==============================

1. Who is JF Mezei?

Jean-Francois Mezei is the worst netkook and megatroll to have ever hit
rec.travel.air and various other usenet newsgroups. He is also one of the
longest running trolls in usenet history.

2. How long has he been trolling?

For well over a decade.

3. Where does he live?

Montreal, Quebec, Canada

Jean-Francois Mezei
86 Harwood Gate
Beaconsfield, QC H9W3A3
(514) 695-8259

His current e-mail address is

4. What makes him such a malicious troll?

His trolling is constant, repetitious, relentless. Once he invades your
newsgroup he will stay for decades, troll around the clock, day in and day out,
every day of the year, for years and years on end. He does not listen to pleas
to stop, he does not listen to anything anyone tells him, he does not pay
attention when the misinformation/disinformation he posts is corrected, he just
goes right on trolling year in, year out like a little child holding his ears
closed while yelling "I can't hear you, I can't hear anything you say!"

5. What does he troll about?

His favorite subjects are USA-bashing and anything to do with sex. He hates the
USA and Americans and will hijack any thread and turn it into a USA-bashing
fest. If he can't do that then he'll just start making lewd posts.

6. What does he hate about the USA?

Everything! He is part of a larger group of Canadian trolls who have a visceral
hatred of the USA, motivated by envy mostly. The USA is a happier, better, more
successful version of their country and they can't stand it. Some of JF's
favorite troll bait is "the Bush regime", "the Bush-Rumsfeld-Wolfowitz axis of
evil", "Americans are brainwashed", "Cars are evil", "SUVs are evil", "all
Americans are stupid" etc.

7. What about his sexual trolling?

Ah, that is JF at his trolling best. No sexual topic is too bizarre. Among his
favorites are child sexuality, masturbation, women's genitalia, sex toys,
circumcision, the sex lives of Americans (of course) ... the list is endless.

8. Circumcision???

Yes, JF trolled the circumcision newsgroups for years. He still likes to insert
circumcision into his trolling every now and then. Apparently, JF was
traumatized as a child because his parents, poor Hungarian immigrants to Canada,
left him uncircumcised when he was born, as is the custom in most of the world.
Growing up in Canada where male infant circumcision was prevalent at the time,
he was psychologically scarred (so he claims). As soon as he could he arranged
to get himself snipped, and then joined the brigades of circumcision
proselytizers in the newsgroups advocating the joys of a free willy. His main
argument is how much better he was able to masturbate after getting circumcised
without that "pesky foreskin" getting in the way of his enjoyment, and he has
made it his mission in life to spread the circumcision gospel.

9. What's his interest in child sexuality? That sounds kind of freaky.

Well, everything having to do with Mezei *is* freaky. Among the subjects dear
to his heart are the genitals of little boys and girls, especially little boy's
foreskins (and how tight they are) and little girls' hymens. He is also a
tireless activist and advocate that children should be taught to masturbate
early on so that they don't grow up "sexually repressed like Americans".

He also counsels all parents of boys that they constantly check their little
boys' penises and foreskins frequently to ensure a good fit, proper movement,
and that they be able to masturbate with no problems. Utopia for JF would be a
world full of parents manipulating their little boys' penises.

10. Ewww! This guy is sounding more and more disgusting by the minute! Are
you sure about all this stuff?

Yes, you can check the google archives for yourself. There's over a decade full
of Mezei trolling in there.

11. How can I find all that out, doesn't he change aliases all the time like
all trolls do?

Of course! See the appendix below for a list of many of his known trolling
aliases.

12. So where does this guy get so much time to troll, doesn't he work?

Ha ha ha! JF hasn't worked a day in his life! He's an adult baby, a grown man
who still lives at home with mommy and sleeps all day and trolls the newsgroups
all night. In his free time when he isn't trolling he likes to ride his bike
down to Dorval Airport and race the planes down the runway in his bike.

13. That seems strange, is he mentally ill or something?

Bingo! JF is a boy in a grown man's body. Psychologically he never got past
the age of 13 and got stuck in a world of bathroom humor (i.e. "pull my
finger!") and locker room antics that he has never been able to outgrow.

14. Speaking of locker rooms, I heard he has a sexual fetish about them, is
that true?

Yes! JF goes to the gym not to work out but to watch men in the locker room.
He loves to post about the male sexual organs he has seen in locker rooms over
the years, especially his unnatural obsession with foreskins. He stalks the men
in locker rooms trying to measure how much foreskin they have, or how little is
left if they have been circumcised. He gets extremely excited when he spots a
case of phimosis.

15. Oh my Gawd, this guy is nuts! He should be locked up in an insane asylum!

Yep, JF is certifiably insane. He lives in a black helicopter / tin foil hat
world where others are out to get him. The key to understanding JF is that he
sees himself as a VICTIM. To JF the world is out to get him, especially the
USA. Victimhood is what JF is all about.

What seems to have sent him over the edge was when the Canadian rail system was
"killed", in his words. He used to be a major train nut, spotting trains,
writing down their numbers and chasing them down at the train yard like a good
freak. Then he turned his attention to aviation. Major events that made him
fall head first deep into the abyss were the bankruptcy of Canadian Airlines and
their subsequent takeover by Air Canada (whom he sees as evil). So paranoid is
he that when an Air Canada plane crashed he claimed that Air Canada employees
went lurking about in the night with buckets of white paint to cover up the Air
Canada markings. He saw that as symbolic of a cover up of the crash
investigation. He has never recovered from this.

16. Where else does he hang out, I want to avoid him!

His main haunt on usenet is comp.os.vms, a newsgroup dedicated to some ancient,
arcane, obsolete piece of vax crapware that nobody has taken seriously for
decades. JF hangs out there with other misfits and social dropouts who share
his psychological traumas, crying for the good old vax days of yore. It's
really pathetic!

17. Where else does he hang out?

can.internet.highspeed, alt.cellular.fido, and a few other geeky computer
groups. For a while after the Shuttle Columbia disaster he invaded the
sci.space groups, sci.space.shuttle in particular, and trolled it relentlessly
with the anti-American, conspiracy theory crap he's so famous for. But they ran
him off that group and he had to go crawling back to comp.os.vms with his tail
between his legs, licking his wounds.

18. It sounds like comp.os.vms is the only group he respects and doesn't troll.

Pretty much. For a megatroll like JF it's impossible not to troll, so he slips
in troll bait every now and then, but by and large he respects comp.os.vms, and,
more importantly, he tries to hide his trolling activities from them so they
won't find out what a major netkook he is.

19. Wow, sounds like he should be exposed so they will know what kind of psycho
he is!

Exactly. Feel free to post all his trolls to comp.os.vms. And while you're at
it post them to can.internet.highspeed and alt.cellular.fido too. And to
alt.usenet.kooks, a group for the likes of JF, and news.admin.net-abuse.usenet.

20. What else can I do? Is there an abuse address?

Yes, you should send complaints along with copies of his troll posts to:





And feel free to distribute this FAQ freely. Post it to newsgroups, email it to
people, you may host it at your own website, send it to newspapers and magazines
that do Internet articles or anything to do with Montreal or Canada, etc.


*** APPENDIX ***

List of some of the many trolling aliases used by Mezei over the years. This is
only a partial list, he has so many it's impossible to compile a full list.






[nospam]

nobody
nobody
nobody
nobody
nobody
nobody
nobody
muklak
Sheep skin
snowy squirrel
Conspiracy Theory
Lou Raccoon
Flapping Labias
Throbbing vulva
Twin Gonads
Loose Scrotum
Raised Organ
Popped Cherry
Monica Lewinski
Deep Fried Foreskin
Aroma of Smegma
Wet fart
Pubic dandruff
Voluptuous Nipple
Inserted Finger
Pubic Nair
Flatulent Meatus
Lihk Mhygroin
Pre Khum
Phi Mosis
Bal Anatis
Fren Ullum
Ivanna Getlaid
Ivanna Wankalot
Ivanna Umpalot
Wan Tnoneofit
Wan Itbad
Wan Towank
Wan Tolik
Testos Terone
Upper Gonad
Right Gonad
Left Gonad
Tyson's Glands
Nose Hair
Coronal Sulcus
Corpus Cavernus
Armpit moisture
Onani Room
Arnie's Banana
Raised eyebrows
Vas Deferens
Naked Canuck
Arni's socks
Notable Exception
Unpopped Cherry
Tatooed Ovaries
Pierced eyelid
Limp Tomato
Eggplant Earrings
Banana Underpants
Naval Lint
Ingrown Toenail
Empty Stomach
Full Stomach
Smelly Cat
Torn Ligament
Art Tistic
Furry Raccoon
Wet Racoon
Mad Racoon
Lazy Racoon
Eaten Racoon
Happy Raccoon
Sleeping Racoon
Hungry Racoon
Horny Raccoon
Smart Raccoon
George W Raccoon
Ronald McRaccoon
Thirsty Raccoon
Johnny Raccoon
Oshi Santo
Oishi Chinko
T.Yellow
Q
Borg Queen
Ronald Wilkerson
John Balterman

*DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY* *DISTRIBUTE FREELY*

"edo" wrote in message
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TehGhodTrole wrote:



I got him on that one. It took 30 seconds to trace.

I also warned them that not only had he forged my mail address, but that it
is a valid address and that I own the domain. Since I didn't give permission
for my domain names to be used, I consider his activity as fraudulent.


--
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"edo" wrote in message
news:247beaa4e248a21f53c69c4fdc16b305@cryptorebels .net...

BTW, thanks for the info.

I run my own newsserver on my domain so any cancels of my messages that come
through automatically get reported.

I suppose the nitwit thought he'd get away with it. Fraud and unauthorised
use of property are not to be sniffed at. Thanks for the home address. If
there are any more cancels, I will make it a police matter.


--
TehGhodTrole: Trolling, for God's sake.
Your Free Insult: Jesus loves you.

TehGhodTrole wrote:

"edo" wrote in message
news:247beaa4e248a21f53c69c4fdc16b305@cryptorebels .net...

BTW, thanks for the info.

I run my own newsserver on my domain so any cancels of my messages that come
through automatically get reported.

Before thanking Edo, I think you should realize that this is probably
not something JF canceled.
Edo/Starwars/Nomen Mescio has a history of harassing people like this.

"mtravelkay" wrote in message
. com...


TehGhodTrole wrote:

"edo" wrote in message
news:247beaa4e248a21f53c69c4fdc16b305@cryptorebels .net...

BTW, thanks for the info.

I run my own newsserver on my domain so any cancels of my messages that
come
through automatically get reported.

Before thanking Edo, I think you should realize that this is probably
not something JF canceled.
Edo/Starwars/Nomen Mescio has a history of harassing people like this.

Th IP address in the cancel messages pointed to istop.com and that, with the
IP registrar for nnrp.ca is where the complaints have gone to.

It may be unsurprising, but the IP information in the post also pointed to
istop.com, which was listed in what edo posted. It could be sheer
coincidence, but still the fact remains, the source of the cancels was
identified and the complaints sent before edo posted what he did.

If it turns out to be the same person, well, that's good because I now have
his home address and will make it a police matter if it continues. If it
turns out not to be the same person, the police will make the decision as to
what to do about it, not me.

End of debate.


--
TehGhodTrole: Trolling, for God's sake.
Your Free Insult: Jesus loves you.

TehGhodTrole wrote:


"mtravelkay" wrote in message
.com...


TehGhodTrole wrote:

"edo" wrote in message
news:247beaa4e248a21f53c69c4fdc16b305@cryptorebels .net...

BTW, thanks for the info.

I run my own newsserver on my domain so any cancels of my messages that
come
through automatically get reported.

Before thanking Edo, I think you should realize that this is probably
not something JF canceled.
Edo/Starwars/Nomen Mescio has a history of harassing people like this.

Th IP address in the cancel messages pointed to istop.com and that, with the
IP registrar for nnrp.ca is where the complaints have gone to.

It may be unsurprising, but the IP information in the post also pointed to
istop.com, which was listed in what edo posted. It could be sheer
coincidence, but still the fact remains, the source of the cancels was
identified and the complaints sent before edo posted what he did.

If it turns out to be the same person, well, that's good because I now have
his home address and will make it a police matter if it continues. If it
turns out not to be the same person, the police will make the decision as to
what to do about it, not me.

End of debate.

Of course it's the same individual. "mtravelkay" is a kook like Mezei and is
probably helping him do the rogue cancels.

This is who "mtravelkay" is:

About Rogue Cisco Employee Michael "mrtravelkay" Voight,
a.k.a. the "mrtravel" Netkook Troll/Usenet Flooder

"mrtavelkay" is the latest usenet handle of a brainless troll whose real name is
Michael Voight, email .

He is better known by his previous stupid handle, "mrtravel".

The idiot works for Cisco in San Jose and apparently they don't
keep him busy enough so he has to troll usenet when he isn't
looking for foreign brides to marry in exchange for money
in alt.visa.us.marriage-based and alt.personals.big-folks, or trying
to pick up minors in alt.personals.teens or any of the number of creepy
newsgroups he frequents. Some of his other trolling aliases are Network
Guy, , sleepydoc , jlhunt
, and Lost 5 of 8 , mrt ,
news.sf.sbcglobal.net , not-nomen
, David Tanner
, Jeff Davies .

All intelligent members of the usenet community have killfiled him, so he takes
great pains to get past their killfiles by rubbing his only two cerebral neurons
together and coming up with gems like: mrtrav , mrtrav3
, mrraveltay , and mrtravelkay
, and mtravelkay and ""a.a\"@a,a,a.
The lastest product of his brain diarrhea is BobTheBuilder
.
He seems to like to hang out in alt.sex.preteen. Hmmm....

His phone number is 831-252-2606.

He's got a daughter in Orange County that one of his ex-wives had the
intelligence to take away from him. Lord only knows what could have
happened to her if she had continued to live with the kook. The other kids
he has belong to his previous Russian sleazy brides, and since they come
and go so do the kids. It wouldn't hurt to let Cisco know what kind of
deviant sexual pervert maniac they have working for them, so....

For starters, forward his idiotic posts to .

He works in technical support, so forward them to .

He often posts through sbcglobal and prodigy, so forward them to
and as well.

You can also call them at 1 800 553 2447 and ask to speak with a supervisor
and explain that you are EXTREMELY unhappy that this idiot spends his whole
day at work playing on the internet on company time. THEY WILL NOT LIKE
THAT.

Then write to corporate headquarters explaining what this idiot is doing
and telling them HOW BAD IT IS FOR THEIR COMPANY IMAGE. They will LOVE
that you brought this to their attention:

Cisco Systems, Inc.
170 West Tasman Dr.
San Jose, CA 95134
USA

Then also call them. You should always follow up email or letters with
phone calls. Always ask for supervisors or managers. Try to get as far up
as possible.

(408)526-4000
(800)553-NETS or
(800)553-6387

Contact Investor Relations and tell them you are interested in investing in
their company but won't do so until they get rid of this asshole who is
wasting company resources:

Cisco Systems, Inc.
Investor Relations Department
170 West Tasman Drive
San Jose, CA 95134-1706
Phone: (408) 526-8890
Fax: (408) 526-4545
Email:

Might as well contact customer service too, they LOVE to hear about this
type of stuff:

USA 1 800 553 6387




Then finally, send letters with copies of his nasty posts addressed
personally to each one of the OFFICERS of the company using the
headquarters address. Believe me, they READ your complaints and are VERY
INTERESTED in them, especially if it's about one of their employees. They
will take a PERSONAL interest in rooting this ASSHOLE out of their company:

John Morgridge, Chairman
John Chambers, President, CEO
Donald Valentine, Vice Chairman
Larry Carter, CFO, Sr. VP-Fin. and Admin., Sec., Director
Richard Justice, Sr. VP, Worldwide Field Operations

Have fun!

Cisco troll/kook Michael Voight mtravelkay trolled:

Before thanking Edo, I think you should realize that this is probably
not something JF canceled.
Edo/Starwars/Nomen Mescio has a history of harassing people like this.

Spoken like the true kook you are. You are probably helping Mezei do the rogue
cancels. No problem, we know where to find you too:

About Rogue Cisco Employee Michael "mrtravelkay" Voight,
a.k.a. the "mrtravel" Netkook Troll/Usenet Flooder

"mrtavelkay" is the latest usenet handle of a brainless troll whose real name is
Michael Voight, email .

He is better known by his previous stupid handle, "mrtravel".

The idiot works for Cisco in San Jose and apparently they don't
keep him busy enough so he has to troll usenet when he isn't
looking for foreign brides to marry in exchange for money
in alt.visa.us.marriage-based and alt.personals.big-folks, or trying
to pick up minors in alt.personals.teens or any of the number of creepy
newsgroups he frequents. Some of his other trolling aliases are Network
Guy, , sleepydoc , jlhunt
, and Lost 5 of 8 , mrt ,
news.sf.sbcglobal.net , not-nomen
, David Tanner
, Jeff Davies .

All intelligent members of the usenet community have killfiled him, so he takes
great pains to get past their killfiles by rubbing his only two cerebral neurons
together and coming up with gems like: mrtrav , mrtrav3
, mrraveltay , and mrtravelkay
, and mtravelkay and ""a.a\"@a,a,a.
The lastest product of his brain diarrhea is BobTheBuilder
.
He seems to like to hang out in alt.sex.preteen. Hmmm....

His phone number is 831-252-2606.

He's got a daughter in Orange County that one of his ex-wives had the
intelligence to take away from him. Lord only knows what could have
happened to her if she had continued to live with the kook. The other kids
he has belong to his previous Russian sleazy brides, and since they come
and go so do the kids. It wouldn't hurt to let Cisco know what kind of
deviant sexual pervert maniac they have working for them, so....

For starters, forward his idiotic posts to .

He works in technical support, so forward them to .

He often posts through sbcglobal and prodigy, so forward them to
and as well.

You can also call them at 1 800 553 2447 and ask to speak with a supervisor
and explain that you are EXTREMELY unhappy that this idiot spends his whole
day at work playing on the internet on company time. THEY WILL NOT LIKE
THAT.

Then write to corporate headquarters explaining what this idiot is doing
and telling them HOW BAD IT IS FOR THEIR COMPANY IMAGE. They will LOVE
that you brought this to their attention:

Cisco Systems, Inc.
170 West Tasman Dr.
San Jose, CA 95134
USA

Then also call them. You should always follow up email or letters with
phone calls. Always ask for supervisors or managers. Try to get as far up
as possible.

(408)526-4000
(800)553-NETS or
(800)553-6387

Contact Investor Relations and tell them you are interested in investing in
their company but won't do so until they get rid of this asshole who is
wasting company resources:

Cisco Systems, Inc.
Investor Relations Department
170 West Tasman Drive
San Jose, CA 95134-1706
Phone: (408) 526-8890
Fax: (408) 526-4545
Email:

Might as well contact customer service too, they LOVE to hear about this
type of stuff:

USA 1 800 553 6387




Then finally, send letters with copies of his nasty posts addressed
personally to each one of the OFFICERS of the company using the
headquarters address. Believe me, they READ your complaints and are VERY
INTERESTED in them, especially if it's about one of their employees. They
will take a PERSONAL interest in rooting this ASSHOLE out of their company:

John Morgridge, Chairman
John Chambers, President, CEO
Donald Valentine, Vice Chairman
Larry Carter, CFO, Sr. VP-Fin. and Admin., Sec., Director
Richard Justice, Sr. VP, Worldwide Field Operations

Have fun!

Cisco troll/kook Michael Voight mtravelkay trolled:

Before thanking Edo, I think you should realize that this is probably
not something JF canceled.
Edo/Starwars/Nomen Mescio has a history of harassing people like this.

Spoken like the true kook you are. You are probably helping Mezei do the rogue
cancels. No problem, we know where to find you too:

About Rogue Cisco Employee Michael "mrtravelkay" Voight,
a.k.a. the "mrtravel" Netkook Troll/Usenet Flooder

"mrtavelkay" is the latest usenet handle of a brainless troll whose real name is
Michael Voight, email .

He is better known by his previous stupid handle, "mrtravel".

The idiot works for Cisco in San Jose and apparently they don't
keep him busy enough so he has to troll usenet when he isn't
looking for foreign brides to marry in exchange for money
in alt.visa.us.marriage-based and alt.personals.big-folks, or trying
to pick up minors in alt.personals.teens or any of the number of creepy
newsgroups he frequents. Some of his other trolling aliases are Network
Guy, , sleepydoc , jlhunt
, and Lost 5 of 8 , mrt ,
news.sf.sbcglobal.net , not-nomen
, David Tanner
, Jeff Davies .

All intelligent members of the usenet community have killfiled him, so he takes
great pains to get past their killfiles by rubbing his only two cerebral neurons
together and coming up with gems like: mrtrav , mrtrav3
, mrraveltay , and mrtravelkay
, and mtravelkay and ""a.a\"@a,a,a.
The lastest product of his brain diarrhea is BobTheBuilder
.
He seems to like to hang out in alt.sex.preteen. Hmmm....

His phone number is 831-252-2606.

He's got a daughter in Orange County that one of his ex-wives had the
intelligence to take away from him. Lord only knows what could have
happened to her if she had continued to live with the kook. The other kids
he has belong to his previous Russian sleazy brides, and since they come
and go so do the kids. It wouldn't hurt to let Cisco know what kind of
deviant sexual pervert maniac they have working for them, so....

For starters, forward his idiotic posts to .

He works in technical support, so forward them to .

He often posts through sbcglobal and prodigy, so forward them to
and as well.

You can also call them at 1 800 553 2447 and ask to speak with a supervisor
and explain that you are EXTREMELY unhappy that this idiot spends his whole
day at work playing on the internet on company time. THEY WILL NOT LIKE
THAT.

Then write to corporate headquarters explaining what this idiot is doing
and telling them HOW BAD IT IS FOR THEIR COMPANY IMAGE. They will LOVE
that you brought this to their attention:

Cisco Systems, Inc.
170 West Tasman Dr.
San Jose, CA 95134
USA

Then also call them. You should always follow up email or letters with
phone calls. Always ask for supervisors or managers. Try to get as far up
as possible.

(408)526-4000
(800)553-NETS or
(800)553-6387

Contact Investor Relations and tell them you are interested in investing in
their company but won't do so until they get rid of this asshole who is
wasting company resources:

Cisco Systems, Inc.
Investor Relations Department
170 West Tasman Drive
San Jose, CA 95134-1706
Phone: (408) 526-8890
Fax: (408) 526-4545
Email:

Might as well contact customer service too, they LOVE to hear about this
type of stuff:

USA 1 800 553 6387




Then finally, send letters with copies of his nasty posts addressed
personally to each one of the OFFICERS of the company using the
headquarters address. Believe me, they READ your complaints and are VERY
INTERESTED in them, especially if it's about one of their employees. They
will take a PERSONAL interest in rooting this ASSHOLE out of their company:

John Morgridge, Chairman
John Chambers, President, CEO
Donald Valentine, Vice Chairman
Larry Carter, CFO, Sr. VP-Fin. and Admin., Sec., Director
Richard Justice, Sr. VP, Worldwide Field Operations

Have fun!

Lo, many moons past, on 27 Feb 2004 04:36:24 GMT, a stranger called by
some "TehGhodTrole" came forth and told this
tale in alt.atheism

"edo" wrote in message
news:247beaa4e248a21f53c69c4fdc16b305@cryptorebel s.net...

BTW, thanks for the info.

I run my own newsserver on my domain so any cancels of my messages that come
through automatically get reported.

I suppose the nitwit thought he'd get away with it. Fraud and unauthorised
use of property are not to be sniffed at. Thanks for the home address. If
there are any more cancels, I will make it a police matter.

You know, I find sadly amusing that you, who freely admits to
harrassing alt.atheism, is getting so hissy when another troll attacks
you.

Go away, please.

--

Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5

Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"