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  #101  
Old March 31st, 2005, 05:40 AM
Mxsmanic
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chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn writes:

Yes, perhaps because when speaking, tone can help a lot- and there is
the opportunity for instant clarification.


Tone doesn't help at all, at least in English, and you can't clarify if
your clarifications are just as jumbled as your original utterances.

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Old March 31st, 2005, 05:40 AM
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chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn writes:

Yes, perhaps because when speaking, tone can help a lot- and there is
the opportunity for instant clarification.


Tone doesn't help at all, at least in English, and you can't clarify if
your clarifications are just as jumbled as your original utterances.

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Old March 31st, 2005, 05:40 AM
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chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn writes:

Yes, perhaps because when speaking, tone can help a lot- and there is
the opportunity for instant clarification.


Tone doesn't help at all, at least in English, and you can't clarify if
your clarifications are just as jumbled as your original utterances.

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  #104  
Old March 31st, 2005, 05:42 AM
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TourLeader writes:

Why not if you give me a chance to start something.
I would accept to loose a bit at the begining.


That is a common mistake of small business operators. You can never
afford to lose money.

USA has the reputation for being easy with those
setting up something, show me then.


Visit the CFE at the URSSAF, they'll explain it all to you.

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Old March 31st, 2005, 07:41 AM
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No, in the case of immigrants to the US the first thing they has to
learn was some rudiments of spoken English to be able to get along in
the most basic manner - find a job, buy groceries, find housing. You
picked up what English you could in the coal mines of Pennsylvania, the
copper mines of Upper Michigan, the gold and silver mines of Colorado,
the rolling mills of Illinois, the tunnels of NYC, the foundries of
Detroit, etc. When working 10 hours a day, 6 days a week, you did not
have much time for such things as classes in English. Some US places
that hired many immigrants, such as the Illinois Steel South Works in
Chicago had signs in English, Hungarian, Polish, German, and others.
Many first generation immigrants to the US never did learn to write
English much, that was left to the second generation to learn in school.
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Mxsmanic wrote:

Emilia writes:

From my experience most people speak better than they write.


I teach people English every day, and believe me, most of them write far
better than they speak. For virtually all students of foreign
languages, speaking fluency is the last or second-last skill acquired,
after reading, writing, and listening. (Some students speak better than
they listen, not because they are good speakers, but simply because they
never have a chance to listen at all.) Written language always precedes
spoken language unless they've had some pretty unusual experiences.

Children may learn to listen and speak first, since they may be more
exposed to the spoken form of a language than to the written form. But
that's children, and here we are dealing with an adult speaker.


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Old March 31st, 2005, 07:41 AM
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No, in the case of immigrants to the US the first thing they has to
learn was some rudiments of spoken English to be able to get along in
the most basic manner - find a job, buy groceries, find housing. You
picked up what English you could in the coal mines of Pennsylvania, the
copper mines of Upper Michigan, the gold and silver mines of Colorado,
the rolling mills of Illinois, the tunnels of NYC, the foundries of
Detroit, etc. When working 10 hours a day, 6 days a week, you did not
have much time for such things as classes in English. Some US places
that hired many immigrants, such as the Illinois Steel South Works in
Chicago had signs in English, Hungarian, Polish, German, and others.
Many first generation immigrants to the US never did learn to write
English much, that was left to the second generation to learn in school.
--
wf.

Mxsmanic wrote:

Emilia writes:

From my experience most people speak better than they write.


I teach people English every day, and believe me, most of them write far
better than they speak. For virtually all students of foreign
languages, speaking fluency is the last or second-last skill acquired,
after reading, writing, and listening. (Some students speak better than
they listen, not because they are good speakers, but simply because they
never have a chance to listen at all.) Written language always precedes
spoken language unless they've had some pretty unusual experiences.

Children may learn to listen and speak first, since they may be more
exposed to the spoken form of a language than to the written form. But
that's children, and here we are dealing with an adult speaker.


  #107  
Old March 31st, 2005, 08:51 AM
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"chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn"
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news:1gu9edf.mecgzl1jc0chzN%this_address_is_for_sp ...
Yes, perhaps because when speaking, tone can help a lot- and there is
the opportunity for instant clarification.


Even more important is the possibility of realizing that clarification is
needed at all.

T.


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Old March 31st, 2005, 08:51 AM
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"chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn"
wrote in message
news:1gu9edf.mecgzl1jc0chzN%this_address_is_for_sp ...
Yes, perhaps because when speaking, tone can help a lot- and there is
the opportunity for instant clarification.


Even more important is the possibility of realizing that clarification is
needed at all.

T.


  #109  
Old March 31st, 2005, 08:51 AM
Terry Richards
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"chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn"
wrote in message
news:1gu9edf.mecgzl1jc0chzN%this_address_is_for_sp ...
Yes, perhaps because when speaking, tone can help a lot- and there is
the opportunity for instant clarification.


Even more important is the possibility of realizing that clarification is
needed at all.

T.


  #110  
Old March 31st, 2005, 11:14 AM
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Le Wed, 30 Mar 2005 20:41:37 +0200, Mxsmanic a écrit*:

The Rev Gaston writes:

If your income is declared properly, then all you had to do to shut
Mixi up ages ago is to say so.


If his income is declared properly, then he is almost doing this as a
free public service. He may even be doing it at a loss.


You can pay more for the Tour in Paris i would like to
organize. I do agree is cheap for what i propose.
My goal is your satisfaction feel free to add extra money...

What i propose is a Tour in Paris as a Parisian.
You tell me what you expect, and then i compose the
Tour exactly for you according your wishes.






 




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