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wrote: No hits. It would seem that this is simply another Christian lie. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118434936941966055.html In Europe, God Is (Not) Dead Christian groups are growing, faith is more public. Is supply-side economics the explanation? By ANDREW HIGGINS July 14, 2007 Stockholm Late last year, a Swedish hotel guest named Stefan Jansson grew upset when he found a Bible in his room. Looks like your search skills need some tuning. -- Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN |
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On Nov 29, 7:33 pm, Brian wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:51:09 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Nov 29, 4:44 am, Sound of Trumpet wrote: snip http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=...les+hotels&um=... No hits. Let's try Yahoo. http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/se...E9HZtwAAgKy87U... No hits. Let's try Reuters. http://search.us.reuters.com/rsearch...=jansson%20swe... No hits. Maybe I'm spelling Sweden wrong. http://www.sweden.se/templates/cs/Fr...e.aspx?id=1898 Hmm. Maybe not. Let's try the AP. http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=APAB&p_theme=a...("jansson%20sw eden%20bible%20hotels")&xcal_numdocs=20&p_perpage= 10&p_sort=Y-MD_date ![]() No hits. It would seem that this is simply another Christian lie. -Panama Floyd, Atlanta. aa#2015/KoBAAWA! Or you could just have clicked on the link provided which led here. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118434936941966055.html Perhaps your denial is just another atheist lie. I'm curious about your reply. The Wall Street Journal was bought by Rupert Murdoch. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...073100896.html The man who made his fortune by turning real newspapers into tabloids and *invented* the opinion-driven "news" report. http://www.outfoxed.org/ Trust him if you wish.... -PF |
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On Nov 29, 7:41 pm, Bert Hyman wrote:
wrote: No hits. It would seem that this is simply another Christian lie. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118434936941966055.html In Europe, God Is (Not) Dead Christian groups are growing, faith is more public. Is supply-side economics the explanation? By ANDREW HIGGINS July 14, 2007 Stockholm Late last year, a Swedish hotel guest named Stefan Jansson grew upset when he found a Bible in his room. Looks like your search skills need some tuning. Please see my reply to "Brian", same thread. -PF |
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On Nov 29, 7:54 am, les_on_usenet
wrote: On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:25:08 -0800 (PST), wrote: On 29 nov, 10:44, Sound of Trumpet wrote: http://www.claytoncramer.com/weblog/...html#879123036... The Church in Europe No, that's not an oxymoron. This article from the July 14, 2007 Wall Street Journal tells us that after decades of decline, Christianity seems to be making a modest comeback: Strangely enough, in all the hotels I've visited in Europe, not once have I found a bible. And this include Paris, Venice, Rome, Florence, Budapest, Amsterdam, Berlin, Moscow, Graz, Linz, Salzburg, Innsbruck, Prag, Brussels, The Hague... and Stockholm... and several small villages in very catholic Austria... Yes they are starting to get rare. I have stayed in most of these places too and many more especially in the UK of course. These days I cruise and you never find them on cruise ships nor generally any hint of religion. On one cruise though the Captain must have been a Christians as he played a recording of cathedral bells loudly on the ships loudspeaker briefly every Sunday before announcing he would be conducting services. They were relayed on the ships CCTV system. I found this annoying as we were a captive audience for his religious intrusion into our lives. I was not the only person annoyed either. A clear sign that Europe is civilized and that Americans who project their own insecurities should shut up instead of making a fool of themselves by inventing things. I have stayed twice in the USA and on both occasions I found Gideons. There were also cards advertising prostitutes and take away food establishments (New York). I bought a self-service ready meal from a next door Deli and got the trots badly next day. I now know the location of every single toilet in the Met museum as I 'started' just after I got there. Never got that in Europe or in Tangier. Never had a problem in New York, but my whole family (who are fully grown people) ha it hapen San Francisco. By the way, thefood may have been poor, but how were the whores? |
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![]() Bert Hyman wrote in message ... In wrote: No hits. It would seem that this is simply another Christian lie. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118434936941966055.html In Europe, God Is (Not) Dead Christian groups are growing, faith is more public. Is supply-side economics the explanation? By ANDREW HIGGINS July 14, 2007 Stockholm Late last year, a Swedish hotel guest named Stefan Jansson grew upset when he found a Bible in his room. Looks like your search skills need some tuning. Well, I went looking, and all I can find is four links to...... this single source, the WSJ article. Which is a bit odd, as one would expect to find one or two local language sources, Sweden does have online versions of it's quite active newspaper sector. But none at all? -- Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN |
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Sound of Trumpet wrote:
http://www.claytoncramer.com/weblog/...30360285898021 The Church in Europe No, that's not an oxymoron. This article from the July 14, 2007 Wall Street Journal tells us that after decades of decline, Christianity seems to be making a modest comeback: Late last year, a Swedish hotel guest named Stefan Jansson grew upset when he found a Bible in his room. He fired off an email to the hotel chain, saying the presence of the Christian scriptures was "boring and stupefying." This spring, the Scandic chain, Scandinavia's biggest, ordered the New Testaments removed. In a country where barely 3% of the population goes to church each week, the affair seemed just another step in Christian Europe's long march toward secularism. Then something odd happened: A national furor erupted. A conservative bishop announced a boycott. A leftist radical who became a devout Christian and talk-show host denounced the biblical purge in newspaper columns and on television. A young evangelical Christian organized an electronic letter-writing campaign, asking Scandic: Why are you removing Bibles but not pay-porn on your TVs? Uh, pay-porn makes them money, bibles don't. I don't get the big idea. As noted in your post, only 3 percent of the population goes to church weekly. I can't imagine more than 3 percent caring about bibles being in a hotel room. If you want a bible to read, carry it with you. |
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![]() "les_on_usenet" wrote in message ... On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 03:25:08 -0800 (PST), wrote: On 29 nov, 10:44, Sound of Trumpet wrote: http://www.claytoncramer.com/weblog/...html#879123036... The Church in Europe No, that's not an oxymoron. This article from the July 14, 2007 Wall Street Journal tells us that after decades of decline, Christianity seems to be making a modest comeback: Strangely enough, in all the hotels I've visited in Europe, not once have I found a bible. And this include Paris, Venice, Rome, Florence, Budapest, Amsterdam, Berlin, Moscow, Graz, Linz, Salzburg, Innsbruck, Prag, Brussels, The Hague... and Stockholm... and several small villages in very catholic Austria... Yes they are starting to get rare. I have stayed in most of these places too and many more especially in the UK of course. These days I cruise and you never find them on cruise ships nor generally any hint of religion. On one cruise though the Captain must have been a Christians as he played a recording of cathedral bells loudly on the ships loudspeaker briefly every Sunday before announcing he would be conducting services. They were relayed on the ships CCTV system. I found this annoying as we were a captive audience for his religious intrusion into our lives. I was not the only person annoyed either. Do not even think that Roman Catholic is "Christian" in any way shape or form. Just because it is religious really is not authority to make it Christian. In fact it is anitchristian! A clear sign that Europe is civilized and that Americans who project their own insecurities should shut up instead of making a fool of themselves by inventing things. The US of A Government is the Second beast of Revelation 13 if you may be interested. it will help the first beast and even cause all to worship the first beast. But they both will come to an abrupt end when God has their time come up to be finished. I have stayed twice in the USA and on both occasions I found Gideons. There were also cards advertising prostitutes and take away food establishments (New York). I bought a self-service ready meal from a next door Deli and got the trots badly next day. I now know the location of every single toilet in the Met museum as I 'started' just after I got there. Now does that not tell you something about what is going on all arond us today?? You will get that too in Mexico. There it is called Montezuma's revenge! Never got that in Europe or in Tangier. Les Hellawell Greetings from YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County |
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:25:51 -0600, Mistylein wrote:
The US of A Government is the Second beast of Revelation 13 if you may be interested. No, not interested. -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ "Arrogance has to be earned. Tell me what you've done to earn yours." - Dr. House |
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On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 19:33:19 -0500, Brian wrote:
On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:51:09 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Nov 29, 4:44 am, Sound of Trumpet wrote: snip http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=...sweeden+bibles +hotels&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn No hits. Let's try Yahoo. http://news.search.yahoo.com/news/ search;_ylt=A0WTTkrpQE9HZtwAAgKy87UF;_ylu=X3oDMTBh NjRqazhxBHNlYwNzZWFyY2g-? fr=sfp&ei=UTF-8&p=jansson+sweden+bibles+hotels No hits. Let's try Reuters. http://search.us.reuters.com/rsearch...nsson%20sweden %20bibles%20hotels&WTmodLoc=ussrch-top-quote No hits. Maybe I'm spelling Sweden wrong. http://www.sweden.se/templates/cs/Fr...e.aspx?id=1898 Hmm. Maybe not. Let's try the AP. http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives? p_product=APAB&p_theme=apab&p_action=search&p_maxd ocs=200&s_dispstring=jansson %20sweden%20bible%20hotels&p_field_advanced-0=&p_text_advanced-0=("jansson %20sweden%20bible%20hotels") &xcal_numdocs=20&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date ![]() No hits. It would seem that this is simply another Christian lie. -Panama Floyd, Atlanta. aa#2015/KoBAAWA! Or you could just have clicked on the link provided which led here. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118434936941966055.html Perhaps your denial is just another atheist lie. I'm curious about your reply. Doofus, he's saying the guy who wrote the WSJ article is lying. Get it? -- Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423 EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion ------------------------------------------------------------ “The religious man, starting out with an outfit of irrational postulates and untenable hopes, tries to fit them into the facts of a harshly material world. In the process he must do violence to both.” - H. L. Mencken |
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:25:51 -0600, "Mistylein"
wrote: The US of A Government is the Second beast of Revelation 13 if you may be interested. Idiot. |
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