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Old September 9th, 2005, 11:20 PM
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"But, right, these are not the areas a foreign tourist would be
interested in visiting!"

I went to Chateau Rouge and Barbes, and found both to be interesting
experiences.

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Old September 9th, 2005, 11:22 PM
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"And there are certainly non-observant Jews who eat pork. Plenty."

True. There are many non-observant Muslims who drink alcohol.

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Old September 10th, 2005, 07:21 AM
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"And there are certainly non-observant Jews who eat pork. Plenty."

True. There are many non-observant Muslims who drink alcohol.

There are many observant atheists who don't drink alcohol nor eat pork.


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Old September 10th, 2005, 10:45 AM
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Iceman wrote:

Which is understandable, since Muslims are economically and politically
marginalized in France, and many of them feel alienated from the
mainstream of French society.


That seems to be their own choice, insisting on wearing veils,
enslaving their wives and daughters, etc etc etc.

G;

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Old September 10th, 2005, 11:35 AM
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On 9 Sep 2005 13:04:34 -0700, "Iceman" wrote:

Which is understandable, since Muslims are economically and politically
marginalized in France, and many of them feel alienated from the
mainstream of French society.


This is just as much the fault of Muslims in France as anyone else. If
they don't integrate over time, they can expect to be marginalised.
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Old September 10th, 2005, 12:11 PM
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Martin writes:

Odd that nobody has banned nuns from dressing the way they do in
Catholic schools.


Catholic schools are not operated or paid for by the state, and nobody
is required to attend them.

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Old September 10th, 2005, 12:11 PM
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chancellor of the duchy of besses o' th' barn and prestwich tesco 24h
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I thought that Catholic schools were mostly private in France?


All Catholic school are private; that's why they are called Catholic,
and not public.

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Old September 10th, 2005, 12:13 PM
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Martin writes:

The ban on traditional dress is a type of discrimination.


The ban is on religious dress, not traditional dress. There is
nothing traditional about veils on the head or black garments that
completely conceal the body, anyway.

If the aim is really better integration, then it is misguided.


What would you suggest?

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Old September 10th, 2005, 12:14 PM
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DDT Filled Mormons writes:

This is just as much the fault of Muslims in France as anyone else. If
they don't integrate over time, they can expect to be marginalised.


Exactly.

Of course, there are many fully integrated Muslims in France. Nobody
notices them precisely _because_ they are fully integrated.

Overally, France is a secular state. Anyone with strong religious
beliefs and obvious religious practices will thus tend to be
marginalized, just as anyone who speaks only, say, Dutch will tend to
be marginalized (because the national language is French).

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