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  #11  
Old December 13th, 2004, 07:20 AM
Don & Lynn
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Don and I tried to book this cruise last year and every change we made, we
kept coming up against the Passenger Services Act.

Lynn



"JLP20" wrote in message
...
It was my belief that repositioning cruises were cheaper as a rule do to

lack
of interest.

I have been looking at the Diamond Princess' repositioning cruise (M518)

from
Los Angeles up to Alaska. We were thinking about linking three separate

cruises
(M518, M519 and M520). This would be a solid 14 days starting on April 30,
2005.

The first leg would be the repositioning move, the second leg is a

"sampler"
and the last week is the full seven day cruise.

I have asked for quotes from several T/A's over the net and have found

that
there is no break for the repositioning leg, much less the "sampler". The

only
stipulation we added to the quotes is a
BB guarantee on Caribe deck. We also said we would be willing to switch

cabins
on this deck during the 14 day period.

All of my responses, a total of 4, have been about the same when broken

down to
the per day costs. By the way, one T/A said we could not book this trip

because
of the Jones Act.

Any ideas as to what is going on
"Anything that doesn't kill you,,,,,,,just hurts a hell of a lot" JLP20



  #12  
Old December 13th, 2004, 07:20 AM
Don & Lynn
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Don and I tried to book this cruise last year and every change we made, we
kept coming up against the Passenger Services Act.

Lynn



"JLP20" wrote in message
...
It was my belief that repositioning cruises were cheaper as a rule do to

lack
of interest.

I have been looking at the Diamond Princess' repositioning cruise (M518)

from
Los Angeles up to Alaska. We were thinking about linking three separate

cruises
(M518, M519 and M520). This would be a solid 14 days starting on April 30,
2005.

The first leg would be the repositioning move, the second leg is a

"sampler"
and the last week is the full seven day cruise.

I have asked for quotes from several T/A's over the net and have found

that
there is no break for the repositioning leg, much less the "sampler". The

only
stipulation we added to the quotes is a
BB guarantee on Caribe deck. We also said we would be willing to switch

cabins
on this deck during the 14 day period.

All of my responses, a total of 4, have been about the same when broken

down to
the per day costs. By the way, one T/A said we could not book this trip

because
of the Jones Act.

Any ideas as to what is going on
"Anything that doesn't kill you,,,,,,,just hurts a hell of a lot" JLP20



  #13  
Old December 13th, 2004, 07:20 AM
Don & Lynn
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Don and I tried to book this cruise last year and every change we made, we
kept coming up against the Passenger Services Act.

Lynn



"JLP20" wrote in message
...
It was my belief that repositioning cruises were cheaper as a rule do to

lack
of interest.

I have been looking at the Diamond Princess' repositioning cruise (M518)

from
Los Angeles up to Alaska. We were thinking about linking three separate

cruises
(M518, M519 and M520). This would be a solid 14 days starting on April 30,
2005.

The first leg would be the repositioning move, the second leg is a

"sampler"
and the last week is the full seven day cruise.

I have asked for quotes from several T/A's over the net and have found

that
there is no break for the repositioning leg, much less the "sampler". The

only
stipulation we added to the quotes is a
BB guarantee on Caribe deck. We also said we would be willing to switch

cabins
on this deck during the 14 day period.

All of my responses, a total of 4, have been about the same when broken

down to
the per day costs. By the way, one T/A said we could not book this trip

because
of the Jones Act.

Any ideas as to what is going on
"Anything that doesn't kill you,,,,,,,just hurts a hell of a lot" JLP20



  #14  
Old December 13th, 2004, 12:43 PM
Captain C
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You can board in San Francisco and disembark in Seward or Whittier because
the ship will transit through
either Vancouver or Victoria Canada, (A foreign port). The Jones Act you are
referring to is an act to protect the
railroad system. It is antiquated, but still exists. All foreign registered
ship, (and most are), cannot
pick up passengers and disembark passengers between two or more US ports, so
the cruise lines
get around this by routing via a foreign port. For instance Miami to Nassau
and back to Miami, Ft Lauderdale
and out to one of the Bahamas Keys before returning to Ft Lauderdale.
The daily casino cruises are US registered ships. (However it is very costly
to register in the US).
Hope that helps you a bit?
Campbell


  #15  
Old December 13th, 2004, 12:43 PM
Captain C
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You can board in San Francisco and disembark in Seward or Whittier because
the ship will transit through
either Vancouver or Victoria Canada, (A foreign port). The Jones Act you are
referring to is an act to protect the
railroad system. It is antiquated, but still exists. All foreign registered
ship, (and most are), cannot
pick up passengers and disembark passengers between two or more US ports, so
the cruise lines
get around this by routing via a foreign port. For instance Miami to Nassau
and back to Miami, Ft Lauderdale
and out to one of the Bahamas Keys before returning to Ft Lauderdale.
The daily casino cruises are US registered ships. (However it is very costly
to register in the US).
Hope that helps you a bit?
Campbell


  #16  
Old December 13th, 2004, 12:43 PM
Captain C
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You can board in San Francisco and disembark in Seward or Whittier because
the ship will transit through
either Vancouver or Victoria Canada, (A foreign port). The Jones Act you are
referring to is an act to protect the
railroad system. It is antiquated, but still exists. All foreign registered
ship, (and most are), cannot
pick up passengers and disembark passengers between two or more US ports, so
the cruise lines
get around this by routing via a foreign port. For instance Miami to Nassau
and back to Miami, Ft Lauderdale
and out to one of the Bahamas Keys before returning to Ft Lauderdale.
The daily casino cruises are US registered ships. (However it is very costly
to register in the US).
Hope that helps you a bit?
Campbell


  #17  
Old December 13th, 2004, 01:28 PM
Don & Lynn
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The problem is that you would board in LA and disembark in Seattle. That is
against the law because it would hurt American cruise ships, what America
cruise ships? The only American cruise ship is the NORWEGIAN Pride of
Aloha, which was declared to be American by the politicians. There has to be
an intervening and distant foreign port along the way. We have done several
of these cruises where we boarded in LA and ended up in Vancouver or the
opposite. On the Coral Princess, we did Vancouver to Seward, back to
Vancouver and then a 3-day to LA.

Regarding price, we found that the price is a bit higher on repositioning
cruises.. They sold the one on the Coral as a 3-day party cruise and there
was a much younger crowd.
Don



"JLP20" wrote in message
...
It was my belief that repositioning cruises were cheaper as a rule do to

lack
of interest.

I have been looking at the Diamond Princess' repositioning cruise (M518)

from
Los Angeles up to Alaska. We were thinking about linking three separate

cruises
(M518, M519 and M520). This would be a solid 14 days starting on April 30,
2005.

The first leg would be the repositioning move, the second leg is a

"sampler"
and the last week is the full seven day cruise.

I have asked for quotes from several T/A's over the net and have found

that
there is no break for the repositioning leg, much less the "sampler". The

only
stipulation we added to the quotes is a
BB guarantee on Caribe deck. We also said we would be willing to switch

cabins
on this deck during the 14 day period.

All of my responses, a total of 4, have been about the same when broken

down to
the per day costs. By the way, one T/A said we could not book this trip

because
of the Jones Act.

Any ideas as to what is going on
"Anything that doesn't kill you,,,,,,,just hurts a hell of a lot" JLP20



  #18  
Old December 13th, 2004, 01:28 PM
Don & Lynn
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The problem is that you would board in LA and disembark in Seattle. That is
against the law because it would hurt American cruise ships, what America
cruise ships? The only American cruise ship is the NORWEGIAN Pride of
Aloha, which was declared to be American by the politicians. There has to be
an intervening and distant foreign port along the way. We have done several
of these cruises where we boarded in LA and ended up in Vancouver or the
opposite. On the Coral Princess, we did Vancouver to Seward, back to
Vancouver and then a 3-day to LA.

Regarding price, we found that the price is a bit higher on repositioning
cruises.. They sold the one on the Coral as a 3-day party cruise and there
was a much younger crowd.
Don



"JLP20" wrote in message
...
It was my belief that repositioning cruises were cheaper as a rule do to

lack
of interest.

I have been looking at the Diamond Princess' repositioning cruise (M518)

from
Los Angeles up to Alaska. We were thinking about linking three separate

cruises
(M518, M519 and M520). This would be a solid 14 days starting on April 30,
2005.

The first leg would be the repositioning move, the second leg is a

"sampler"
and the last week is the full seven day cruise.

I have asked for quotes from several T/A's over the net and have found

that
there is no break for the repositioning leg, much less the "sampler". The

only
stipulation we added to the quotes is a
BB guarantee on Caribe deck. We also said we would be willing to switch

cabins
on this deck during the 14 day period.

All of my responses, a total of 4, have been about the same when broken

down to
the per day costs. By the way, one T/A said we could not book this trip

because
of the Jones Act.

Any ideas as to what is going on
"Anything that doesn't kill you,,,,,,,just hurts a hell of a lot" JLP20



  #19  
Old December 13th, 2004, 06:02 PM
Merry Christmas
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Captain C wrote:
You can board in San Francisco and disembark in Seward or Whittier because
the ship will transit through
either Vancouver or Victoria Canada, (A foreign port). The Jones Act


This is NOT the Jones Act (46 U.S.C. 883), unless you are on a cruise
ship that treats you like cargo. For passengers, this would be the
Passengers Service Vessels Act (46 U.S.C. 289)
  #20  
Old December 13th, 2004, 06:02 PM
Merry Christmas
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Captain C wrote:
You can board in San Francisco and disembark in Seward or Whittier because
the ship will transit through
either Vancouver or Victoria Canada, (A foreign port). The Jones Act


This is NOT the Jones Act (46 U.S.C. 883), unless you are on a cruise
ship that treats you like cargo. For passengers, this would be the
Passengers Service Vessels Act (46 U.S.C. 289)
 




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