New York itinary

Hi

We are coming to NYC from London for 6 days at the end of april ( 2
adults and 2 teenage boys).

Obviously there is somuch to do I don't want to waste too much time on
planning, Does anyone have an itinary they would lkie to share??

Regards

Tony

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Hi

We are coming to NYC from London for 6 days at the end of april ( 2
adults and 2 teenage boys).

Obviously there is somuch to do I don't want to waste too much time on
planning, Does anyone have an itinary they would lkie to share??

Regards

Tony

It is absolutely impossible to answer a question like this. New York offers
everything and anything that you might want. Without knowing your likes and
dislikes, your request can't be answered. Do you like museums? If so, art,
natural history, or both? Do you like theater? How about jazz clubs?
Restaurants? History? Shopping?

Give us an idea of your preferences.

Incidently, an excellent place to _start_ planning a trip is with the
purchase of a good guidebook. I don't know if they have one for New York,
but I favor the DK Eyewitness series, which are rich in photographs and maps
and, in and of themselves, make wonderful souvenirs.

"Tony" wrote in message
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Hi

We are coming to NYC from London for 6 days at the end of april ( 2
adults and 2 teenage boys).

Obviously there is somuch to do I don't want to waste too much time on
planning, Does anyone have an itinary they would lkie to share??

Regards

Tony

1. Go to www.google.com

2. Type in New York City Guide in the search box

3. Look at the results - if you can't find enough suggestions there I'll be
amazed. Select what appeals to you.

Why ask the newsgroup when we've no idea of your interests? Some readers
would possibly recommend visiting museum after museum because that's their
thing. Another might recommend riding the subway so that they can take in
every station and every type of subway car. You'd possibly get bored
senseless after doing a couple of hours of either thing.

Why not spend a little time planning to see what interests you rather than
follow some-one else's interests?

Regards

David Bennetts
Australia

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(Tony) wrote:

Hi

We are coming to NYC from London for 6 days at the end of april ( 2
adults and 2 teenage boys).

Obviously there is somuch to do I don't want to waste too much time on
planning, Does anyone have an itinary they would lkie to share??

If you don't want to waste time on planning your own vacation,
why would you expect complete strangers to help you plan your
vacation? There is something to do in NYC for everyone. What you
enjoy doing might be completely different than what I do when I
visit NYC. At least explain what your interests a Broadway
shows, museums, sports, fine dining, zoos, etc.?

I would visit at least:
1) one art museum
2) one history museum
3) baseball game; and
4) broadway show

In between, do some shopping and fine dining.

HTH,
kate
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Hi

We are coming to NYC from London for 6 days at the end of april ( 2
adults and 2 teenage boys).

Obviously there is somuch to do I don't want to waste too much time on
planning, Does anyone have an itinary they would lkie to share??

Regards

Tony

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Hi

We are coming to NYC from London for 6 days at the end of april ( 2
adults and 2 teenage boys).

Obviously there is somuch to do I don't want to waste too much time on
planning, Does anyone have an itinary they would lkie to share??


2 - 3 shows, pick at your leisure. Probably should look for
something the kids will like.

NYSE/Wall Street

Circle line

Ground Zero

Empire State Building

Times Square, probably once a day or so for the kids. Various kid
oriented places like ESPN Zone and the like.

Rockefeller Plaza - NBC Studio tours.

Ellis Island

United Nations

FAO Schwartz if it's still open.

Museum of Natural History

Tenement Museum.

Do these things while walking alot, take a few subways, having
lunch at deli's. Go window shopping a bit, get a pretzel from
a street vendor, that kinda thing. If it's a nice day, you might
consider having a picnic in Central Park and let the kids run around
a bit. Arrange these as a function of where you stay and what
the weather is like. Be prepared to be flexible.

On 6 Feb 2004 06:24:16 -0800, (me) wrote:

(Tony) wrote in message . com...
Hi

We are coming to NYC from London for 6 days at the end of april ( 2
adults and 2 teenage boys).

Obviously there is somuch to do I don't want to waste too much time on
planning, Does anyone have an itinary they would lkie to share??


2 - 3 shows, pick at your leisure. Probably should look for
something the kids will like.

NYSE/Wall Street

Has the NYSE reopened for tours? It was closed to visitors for some
time for security reasons, and I hadn't heard that it reopened. I'm
guessing it hasn't. However, one can walk in the Financial District,
and that's worthwhile regardless.

Circle line

Ground Zero

Nothing much to see there, I think, as I believe it's just an absence
of buildings at this point.

Empire State Building

Times Square, probably once a day or so for the kids. Various kid
oriented places like ESPN Zone and the like.

But watch out: The video game places in that area are very expensive!

Also, I would not recommend going to Times Square once a day. There
are many more interesting parts of Manhattan. Walk all around.

Rockefeller Plaza - NBC Studio tours.

Ellis Island

United Nations

FAO Schwartz if it's still open.

It went out of business, so it might well be closed already. But Toys
R Us on like 45 St. and 7th Av. is bigger, anyway.

Museum of Natural History

Tenement Museum.

Do these things while walking alot, take a few subways, having
lunch at deli's.

Depends. Most deli lunches are poor to fair. By contrast, you can get
good street food in Chinatown for less, like deep-fried chicken wings
with tasty spices in the batter, dumplings, buns, etc.

Go window shopping a bit, get a pretzel from
a street vendor, that kinda thing. If it's a nice day, you might
consider having a picnic in Central Park and let the kids run around
a bit. Arrange these as a function of where you stay and what
the weather is like. Be prepared to be flexible.

You've given good advice, which is very generous, considering that the
original poster gave us almost nothing to go on.

The Bronx Zoo is also a possibility if the teenagers like zoos. And
there's also the Brooklyn Museum and so forth. But these folks are
coming from London, which has great art museums and, I understand
(having never been there), gardens that make the Brooklyn Botanic
Gardens like a joke by comparison. That's why we need more input from
Mr. Brown.

Michael

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On 6 Feb 2004 06:24:16 -0800, (me) wrote:

(Tony) wrote in message . com...
Hi

We are coming to NYC from London for 6 days at the end of april ( 2
adults and 2 teenage boys).

Obviously there is somuch to do I don't want to waste too much time on
planning, Does anyone have an itinary they would lkie to share??


2 - 3 shows, pick at your leisure. Probably should look for
something the kids will like.

NYSE/Wall Street

Has the NYSE reopened for tours? It was closed to visitors for some
time for security reasons, and I hadn't heard that it reopened. I'm
guessing it hasn't. However, one can walk in the Financial District,
and that's worthwhile regardless.

This stuff tends to be so day to day, and dependent upon the
"spin level" color of the day, I figure ya go, ya try, ya take your
chances. As ya say, just being down there is something to do.
I presume the old Federal Building is still open for tours. It's
right there too.

Circle line

Ground Zero

Nothing much to see there, I think, as I believe it's just an absence
of buildings at this point.

Sorta like going to a battle field. You won't see the actual
battlefield in any sense of what it looked like at the time. More
just a case of instilling a sense of awareness, especially on the
part of the teenagers. I always paid a bit more attention to
the battle of Gettysburg studies because I had played in Devils Den and
walked Pickett's charge.

Empire State Building

Times Square, probably once a day or so for the kids. Various kid
oriented places like ESPN Zone and the like.

But watch out: The video game places in that area are very expensive!

Been to Disney lately.... New York is expensive.

Also, I would not recommend going to Times Square once a day. There
are many more interesting parts of Manhattan. Walk all around.

Sorta thinking of it as a "play break" for the kids.

Rockefeller Plaza - NBC Studio tours.

Ellis Island

United Nations

FAO Schwartz if it's still open.

It went out of business, so it might well be closed already. But Toys
R Us on like 45 St. and 7th Av. is bigger, anyway.

Yeah, someone was trying to buy a few of the stores and keep them
going. The one in Manhattan was one of them. Guess we're a full
generation past "Big" so the kids wouldn't get the same kick.

I was trying to think of a good NYC kinda themed movie they
could rent before coming that the kids might like. That way
they'd have some familiarity with the place prior to getting
there. When I took the wife to Gettysburg, we watched on of
the theatrical versions of the battle. Gave her context to
what she was seeing when we were there.

Museum of Natural History

Tenement Museum.

Do these things while walking alot, take a few subways, having
lunch at deli's.

Depends. Most deli lunches are poor to fair. By contrast, you can get
good street food in Chinatown for less, like deep-fried chicken wings
with tasty spices in the batter, dumplings, buns, etc.

It isn't so much about saving money, nor having "good" food. It's
about experiencing some of what they know from the Hollywood versions
of NYC. And of course, experiencing what is different from what
they've been shown.

Go window shopping a bit, get a pretzel from
a street vendor, that kinda thing. If it's a nice day, you might
consider having a picnic in Central Park and let the kids run around
a bit. Arrange these as a function of where you stay and what
the weather is like. Be prepared to be flexible.

You've given good advice, which is very generous, considering that the
original poster gave us almost nothing to go on.

Which kinda implied to me that what they wanted was the sorta
"trophy tourism" that 90% of travelers are looking for.

The Bronx Zoo is also a possibility if the teenagers like zoos. And
there's also the Brooklyn Museum and so forth. But these folks are
coming from London, which has great art museums and, I understand
(having never been there), gardens that make the Brooklyn Botanic
Gardens like a joke by comparison. That's why we need more input from
Mr. Brown.
[snip]

The most telling thing he told us was he was bring two teenagers and
didn't want to spend alot of time making plans. That just screemed,
"prepackage entertainment for the kids". Basically, my supposition is
that he wants to treat Manhattan like Disney World. That's okay,
there is plenty of that to do. Heck, they just about own Times Square
anyway. Bronx Zoo is good. I'd say a baseball game but probably
not for British kids. He'll never get Knicks tickets I'd imagine.


I've got a friend that takes highschool groups to Europe. He's a
teacher. His outline is always the same. Limit each day to
what they can handle. Schedule regular "breaks" were they can
just relax and sorta play or hang out or whatever, but never
so long that they can scare up trouble. Try to balance places
that require alot of reading and shuffling listening to a tour
guides. Let them engage the place as much as possible, as oppose
to just viewing it.

That's why I suggested subways and deli's and FAO and stuff.
Buying a pretzel is engaging the place. Tossing a frisbee around
Central Park is being part of the place, not just in it. In
NY, a young college student I knew said the thing he missed most
about NYC was being able to buy pizza by the slice.

BMC wrote:
I would visit at least:
1) one art museum
2) one history museum
3) baseball game; and
4) broadway show

The great thing about New York is that I lived there for years and never did
any of these things, and would never voluntarily choose to, unless forced by
social circumstances, and yet I was never for a minute bored there (uniquely
among American cities).

The flip side of this is, as many others have said, faced with this
smorgasbord of options it's very difficult to predict what someone might
enjoy.

My list would be:

1) Central Park, around 72nd St, on a sunny weekend day. Roller disco, boats
on the lake, general niceness.

2) Washington Square Park, on a sunny weekend day (or weekday afternoon
after 5pm). Street acrobats and impromptu singing groups.

3) Times Square any evening. Many New Yorkers deride it, but the fact is,
it's Times Square. Gaudy, iridescent, touristy, dramatic, whatever. It's
Times Square.

4) Walk the Brooklyn Bridge. No matter what. Both day and night have their
advantages.

5) 125th Street in Harlem. A totally different New York (though slowly
becoming less so). Shuts down a little early, around 7pm.

6) Greenwich Village. Beautiful houses by day, beautifully-lit bars and
restaurants by night.

7) 2nd and 3rd Avenues in the teens and twenties. Restaurants, restaurants,
restaurants, and just a general sense of the muchness of New York.

miguel
--
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On 6 Feb 2004 11:32:10 -0800, (me) wrote:

Pan wrote in message . ..
On 6 Feb 2004 06:24:16 -0800, (me) wrote:

Has the NYSE reopened for tours? It was closed to visitors for some
time for security reasons, and I hadn't heard that it reopened. I'm
guessing it hasn't. However, one can walk in the Financial District,
and that's worthwhile regardless.

This stuff tends to be so day to day, and dependent upon the
"spin level" color of the day, I figure ya go, ya try, ya take your
chances. As ya say, just being down there is something to do.
I presume the old Federal Building is still open for tours. It's
right there too.

Agreed. It's worth walking around in that neighborhood, regardless.

Circle line

Ground Zero

Nothing much to see there, I think, as I believe it's just an absence
of buildings at this point.

Sorta like going to a battle field. You won't see the actual
battlefield in any sense of what it looked like at the time. More
just a case of instilling a sense of awareness, especially on the
part of the teenagers. I always paid a bit more attention to
the battle of Gettysburg studies because I had played in Devils Den and
walked Pickett's charge.

I get your point.

Empire State Building

Times Square, probably once a day or so for the kids. Various kid
oriented places like ESPN Zone and the like.

But watch out: The video game places in that area are very expensive!

Been to Disney lately....

Never.

New York is expensive.

No, the point here is that the Times Square District is expensive. You
can play video games for significantly less in Chinatown.

Also, I would not recommend going to Times Square once a day. There
are many more interesting parts of Manhattan. Walk all around.

Sorta thinking of it as a "play break" for the kids.

Times Square isn't the only place to do that, nor necessarily the one
that will be most interesting to all teenagers.

Museum of Natural History

Tenement Museum.

Do these things while walking alot, take a few subways, having
lunch at deli's.

Depends. Most deli lunches are poor to fair. By contrast, you can get
good street food in Chinatown for less, like deep-fried chicken wings
with tasty spices in the batter, dumplings, buns, etc.

It isn't so much about saving money, nor having "good" food. It's
about experiencing some of what they know from the Hollywood versions
of NYC.

If that's what they want. You might be right that that's what they
want, but we don't know because they didn't tell us. Frankly, I think
it's kind of pathetic to go somewhere and want to pretend that it's
like it seems in movies, instead of trying to experience a place for
what it really is.

Michael

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