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"Hate Sells: Liberal Magazines Are Suffering Under Obama."



 
 
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Old February 24th, 2010, 11:34 PM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe,soc.retirement
O'Donovan, PJ, Himself
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Default "Hate Sells: Liberal Magazines Are Suffering Under Obama."

On Feb 24, 3:22*pm, "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep
furiously)" wrote:
"O'Donovan, PJ, Himself" wrote:

On Feb 24, 1:11 pm, Earl Evleth stupidly wrote
some garbage about being "victimized" by airlines over his need for
oxygen on their flight out of Paris, the content of which has been
snipped :


Of course the Evleths as the quintessential Leftists they are perceive
themselves as "victims" of whatever and will always perceive that
imagined "victimization" exists on them andf others which really does
not exist at all.


.


Easily searchable excerpts:


"Flying With Oxygen


"In the aftermath of September 11th, the U.S. Department of
Transportation (DOT), in conjunction with the National Council on
Disability (NCD), issued a Fact Sheet to encourage the large airlines
and aviation associations to preserve and respect the civil rights of
people with disabilities.while they take steps the ensure new security
requirements....


....Ticketed passengers with their own oxygen for use on the ground
are allowed beyond the screener checkpoints with their oxygen
canisters once the canisters have been thoroughly inspected....."


I wouldn't allow it. I would require that the airlines provide
oxygen for people who needed it. What we are doing is counting on
the fact that someone who appears to need oxygen doesn't have some
nefarious nonsense in mind. All it would take to build a very
effective bomb is to put it inside the oxygen container and then
fill the container with oxygen as expected.

--
"It is illuminating for purposes of reflection, if not for
argument, to note that one of the greatest 'fictions' of our
federal system is that the Congress exercises only those powers
delegated to it, while the remainder are reserved to the States or
to the people. The manner in which this Court has construed the
Commerce Clause amply illustrates the extent of this fiction.",
Hodel v. Virginia Surface Mining, 452 U.S. 264, 307 (1981)



The clearance is only for carrying Oxygen to the gate past the
security checkpoint for those who have to once it has been examined
and cleared

Oxygen Canisters on Passenger Planes

Oxygen and Arrangements per the TSA website.

"Passengers are responsible for making the arrangements with:

The airline(s) for supplemental Oxygen onboard the aircraft.

Local providers for oxygen use during any layover stop(s) and at the
final destination.

The airline, friends, relatives or a local supplier for removal of the
canister from the originating airport's gate area immediately after
you leave the gate area to board the aircraft...".
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Old February 25th, 2010, 12:37 AM posted to alt.activism.death-penalty,uk.politics.misc,aus.politics,rec.travel.europe,soc.retirement
Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep furiously)
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Default "Hate Sells: Liberal Magazines Are Suffering Under Obama."



"O'Donovan, PJ, Himself" wrote:

On Feb 24, 3:22 pm, "Bill Bonde {Colourless green ideas don't sleep
furiously)" wrote:
"O'Donovan, PJ, Himself" wrote:

On Feb 24, 1:11 pm, Earl Evleth stupidly wrote
some garbage about being "victimized" by airlines over his need for
oxygen on their flight out of Paris, the content of which has been
snipped :


Of course the Evleths as the quintessential Leftists they are perceive
themselves as "victims" of whatever and will always perceive that
imagined "victimization" exists on them andf others which really does
not exist at all.


.


Easily searchable excerpts:


"Flying With Oxygen


"In the aftermath of September 11th, the U.S. Department of
Transportation (DOT), in conjunction with the National Council on
Disability (NCD), issued a Fact Sheet to encourage the large airlines
and aviation associations to preserve and respect the civil rights of
people with disabilities.while they take steps the ensure new security
requirements....


....Ticketed passengers with their own oxygen for use on the ground
are allowed beyond the screener checkpoints with their oxygen
canisters once the canisters have been thoroughly inspected....."


I wouldn't allow it. I would require that the airlines provide
oxygen for people who needed it. What we are doing is counting on
the fact that someone who appears to need oxygen doesn't have some
nefarious nonsense in mind. All it would take to build a very
effective bomb is to put it inside the oxygen container and then
fill the container with oxygen as expected.

--
"It is illuminating for purposes of reflection, if not for
argument, to note that one of the greatest 'fictions' of our
federal system is that the Congress exercises only those powers
delegated to it, while the remainder are reserved to the States or
to the people. The manner in which this Court has construed the
Commerce Clause amply illustrates the extent of this fiction.",
Hodel v. Virginia Surface Mining, 452 U.S. 264, 307 (1981)


The clearance is only for carrying Oxygen to the gate past the
security checkpoint for those who have to once it has been examined
and cleared

Oxygen Canisters on Passenger Planes

Oxygen and Arrangements per the TSA website.

"Passengers are responsible for making the arrangements with:

The airline(s) for supplemental Oxygen onboard the aircraft.

Local providers for oxygen use during any layover stop(s) and at the
final destination.

The airline, friends, relatives or a local supplier for removal of the
canister from the originating airport's gate area immediately after
you leave the gate area to board the aircraft...".

It sounds like the current system is about what I thought it should
be. That doesn't mean that there haven't been instances of undue
difficulty on those using oxygen.



--
"It is illuminating for purposes of reflection, if not for
argument, to note that one of the greatest 'fictions' of our
federal system is that the Congress exercises only those powers
delegated to it, while the remainder are reserved to the States or
to the people. The manner in which this Court has construed the
Commerce Clause amply illustrates the extent of this fiction.",
Hodel v. Virginia Surface Mining, 452 U.S. 264, 307 (1981)
 




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