Immigration patrols on domestic Amtrak

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:53:00 GMT, Merritt Mullen
wrote:

In article ,
sechumlib wrote:

On 2007-07-15 23:33:29 -0400, Merritt Mullen said:

In article ,
sechumlib wrote:

On 2007-07-15 20:37:46 -0400, Merritt Mullen said:

In article ,
"Keith Willshaw" wrote:

I've been stopped by such patrols on Interstates in California

I-5 and I-15 both have such facilities built right into the northbound
lanes of the interstates, about 50 mile north of the border in areas where
there are no practical detours off of the interstates.

What border? If they're on I-5 and I-15, they're not in Canada, so what
border are you talking about?

The word "California" should give you a clue.

Let's see: the California "customs officials" have facilities "about 50
mile north of the border" in Oregon? Or is it about 50 miles north of
the Mexican border in Californis?

Who said anything about "California Customs Officials". We are talking
about the U.S Border Patrol and Immigration Agents. Nothing to do with
the state of California.

I understood it right away: he means customs officials in
California, not customs officials who are employed by California.
but what he erally means is immigration officials. The federal
immigration officials in California operate several permanent
highway checkpoints at some distance from the Mexican border, the
most notorious being located on I-5 at San Onofre. That's the one
with the famous black and yellow highway warning signs showing a
silhouette of a group of people running across the highway.

The California Agricultural Inspection stations on the borders with other
U.S. states are a completely different issue and have nothing to do with
immigration.

That's not really the subject here.


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On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:09:07 -0400, HAL wrote:

In article ews.net,
Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Curious how travel by train is such a heavy target. What did Amtrak ever
do to Customs?

I suspect it is a case of some customs agents liking to delay trains
just to throw their weight around. Possibly they have not much of a
life and get a charge out of causing misery.

Are you sure they aren't immigration officials?

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In article a_emi.2187$fP4.1511@trndny07,
Bill in Schenectady wrote:

You don't see roadblocks on the nation's interstates

Actually you do. There are a couple of such road blocks in California
between San Diego and Los Angeles.

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In article ,
sechumlib wrote:

I'm just not used to smart-ass comments from people who have no
possible interest in the subject and have nothing of any value whatever
to contribute.

Are you that new to usenet?

In article , Hatunen
wrote:

Are you sure they aren't immigration officials?

Customs and immigration investigation is combined under the Department
of Homeland Security in one agency, Immigration and Customs Enforcement
(ICE).

Hatunen wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:09:07 -0400, HAL wrote:
Adam H. Kerman wrote:

Curious how travel by train is such a heavy target. What did Amtrak ever
do to Customs?

I suspect it is a case of some customs agents liking to delay trains
just to throw their weight around. Possibly they have not much of a
life and get a charge out of causing misery.

Are you sure they aren't immigration officials?

It's difficult to remember who's who since Homeland Security became a
cabinet-level department. I think I understand what happened. Customs were
transferred from Treasury to DHS. The old Justice Department INS had its
duties taken over by three other bureaus:

The INS Border Patrol and agents who handled immigration at border
crossing points were merged into Customs, which is now Customs and
Border Patrol. Immigration law enforcement became a new bureau,
Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the guys who raid workplaces.
Naturalization became another new bureau, too, Citizenship Services.

So when you say "immigration officials", they could be either Customs or ICE.

As we forget that Customs was supposed to be a tax and import duty
collection agency, I'm unclear as to what bureau enforces customs and
tax law when duties aren't collected at the border. Is this ICE too?

In article ,
sechumlib wrote:

I will describe, in nauseating detail

Well, you got the nauseating part right. But you left out
worthless.

HAL wrote:

Customs and immigration investigation is combined under the Department of
Homeland Security in one agency, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

Do you know: Does ICE enforce traditional tax and import duties law when
noncompliance or underreporting is suspected? Or is this still part of
Customs and Border Patrol?

In article ,
Merritt Mullen wrote:

The US does not have federally-issued ID.

A passport is one.

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:41:55 -0400, HAL wrote:

In article , Hatunen
wrote:

Are you sure they aren't immigration officials?

Customs and immigration investigation is combined under the Department
of Homeland Security in one agency, Immigration and Customs Enforcement
(ICE).

But the term "customs officials" was used. Don't you think using
the immigration side is more pertinent to the case of ICE agents
on board the train?

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