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  #11  
Old May 25th, 2007, 06:10 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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"me" wrote in message
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Cruise ships will prevent you from bringing (well drinking really)
your own alchohol supplies. Theaters typically prevent you from
bringing your own popcorn.


How?

I mean, how do they stop you having a bottle of booze in their cabin on a
ship and how do you stop someone walking into your movie theatre with a
shopping bag with some popcorn in it?

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.




  #12  
Old May 25th, 2007, 06:21 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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On May 25, 1:10 pm, "William Black"
wrote:
"me" wrote in message

oups.com...

Cruise ships will prevent you from bringing (well drinking really)
your own alchohol supplies. Theaters typically prevent you from
bringing your own popcorn.


How?

I mean, how do they stop you having a bottle of booze in their cabin on a
ship and how do you stop someone walking into your movie theatre with a
shopping bag with some popcorn in it?



The cruise ships use various versions of luggage searching. They
have some capacity to claim an obligation since there are various
customs laws with which they deal. I'm sure the effort is no where
near 100% successful, but I suspect neither will the airlines.

Theaters basically just watch. If you come in with a large
shopping bag, they may keep an eye on you.

  #13  
Old May 25th, 2007, 06:56 PM posted to rec.travel.air
William Black
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"me" wrote in message
ups.com...
On May 25, 1:10 pm, "William Black"
wrote:


The cruise ships use various versions of luggage searching. They
have some capacity to claim an obligation since there are various
customs laws with which they deal. I'm sure the effort is no where
near 100% successful, but I suspect neither will the airlines.


You're telling me that cruise ships search hand luggage?

Or even that they restrict their customers buying booze?

Theaters basically just watch. If you come in with a large
shopping bag, they may keep an eye on you.


I beg leave to doubt that.

Movie theatres are notoriously under-staffed and what staff there is
notoriously under-paid.

I also doubt that throwing someone out who has brought thier own popcorn is
legal, certainly it wouldn't be legal in the UK.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.







  #14  
Old May 25th, 2007, 07:30 PM posted to rec.travel.air
me[_5_]
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On May 25, 1:56 pm, "William Black"
wrote:
"me" wrote in message

ups.com...

On May 25, 1:10 pm, "William Black"
wrote:
The cruise ships use various versions of luggage searching. They
have some capacity to claim an obligation since there are various
customs laws with which they deal. I'm sure the effort is no where
near 100% successful, but I suspect neither will the airlines.


You're telling me that cruise ships search hand luggage?


I think its a bit more of a case of "searching" shopping
bags.

Or even that they restrict their customers buying booze?


Each cruise line handles it a bit different, but they do
pay attention. Several of the islands down that way have
significant rum sales of which there can be a limit to what
can be imported back to the states.

Theaters basically just watch. If you come in with a large
shopping bag, they may keep an eye on you.


I beg leave to doubt that.


Okay, but I've seen it so....

Movie theatres are notoriously under-staffed and what staff there is
notoriously under-paid.


Yup, and can be social friends of those involved. None the less,
they go on "binges" once and a bit and "crack down" when it gets
outta hand.

I also doubt that throwing someone out who has brought thier own popcorn is
legal, certainly it wouldn't be legal in the UK.


As you might understand, commerce laws can vary widely by country
and by state. A theater is private property and can make a wide
variety of
rules within certain bounds.

  #15  
Old May 25th, 2007, 08:18 PM posted to rec.travel.air
William Black
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Default Skybus Airlines and food


"me" wrote in message
ps.com...
On May 25, 1:56 pm, "William Black"
wrote:
"me" wrote in message

ups.com...

On May 25, 1:10 pm, "William Black"
wrote:
The cruise ships use various versions of luggage searching. They
have some capacity to claim an obligation since there are various
customs laws with which they deal. I'm sure the effort is no where
near 100% successful, but I suspect neither will the airlines.


You're telling me that cruise ships search hand luggage?


I think its a bit more of a case of "searching" shopping
bags.

Or even that they restrict their customers buying booze?


Each cruise line handles it a bit different, but they do
pay attention. Several of the islands down that way have
significant rum sales of which there can be a limit to what
can be imported back to the states.


So?

It is not the duty of a cruise line to enforce customs regulations. Neither
do they have the power to do so.

Theaters basically just watch. If you come in with a large
shopping bag, they may keep an eye on you.


I beg leave to doubt that.


Okay, but I've seen it so....

Movie theatres are notoriously under-staffed and what staff there is
notoriously under-paid.


Yup, and can be social friends of those involved. None the less,
they go on "binges" once and a bit and "crack down" when it gets
outta hand.

I also doubt that throwing someone out who has brought thier own popcorn
is
legal, certainly it wouldn't be legal in the UK.


As you might understand, commerce laws can vary widely by country
and by state. A theater is private property and can make a wide
variety of
rules within certain bounds.


And once they've sold you a ticket they've entered into a contract.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.




  #16  
Old May 25th, 2007, 08:37 PM posted to rec.travel.air
TMOliver
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"William Black" wrote ...


And once they've sold you a ticket they've entered into a contract.


Apparently not, with the "contract" only becoming effective as the ticket
taker takes the ticket. I've seen not a few movie goers laden with
refreshments turned away (and refunded) unless willing to leave the snacks
in the car. Drinks are apparently the big problem. Inside, those who want
to pour a bit of neat whisky from their flasks have to worry about rats and
snitchers.....



  #17  
Old May 25th, 2007, 09:03 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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On May 25, 3:18 pm, "William Black"
wrote:
"me" wrote in message

ps.com...
On May 25, 1:56 pm, "William Black"
wrote:
"me" wrote in message


roups.com...


On May 25, 1:10 pm, "William Black"
wrote:
The cruise ships use various versions of luggage searching. They
have some capacity to claim an obligation since there are various
customs laws with which they deal. I'm sure the effort is no where
near 100% successful, but I suspect neither will the airlines.


You're telling me that cruise ships search hand luggage?


I think its a bit more of a case of "searching" shopping
bags.


Or even that they restrict their customers buying booze?


Each cruise line handles it a bit different, but they do
pay attention. Several of the islands down that way have
significant rum sales of which there can be a limit to what
can be imported back to the states.


So?

It is not the duty of a cruise line to enforce customs regulations. Neither
do they have the power to do so.


However, there are federal "seziure" laws which state that the
feds can seize the whole "boat" if certain laws are violated by
any of the passengers.

[snip]
I also doubt that throwing someone out who has brought thier own popcorn
is legal, certainly it wouldn't be legal in the UK.


As you might understand, commerce laws can vary widely by country
and by state. A theater is private property and can make a wide
variety of rules within certain bounds.


And once they've sold you a ticket they've entered into a contract.


Yes, with rules, that mostly favor them. I sure it includes the
ability
to eject people not choosing to follow them.

  #18  
Old May 25th, 2007, 09:45 PM posted to rec.travel.air
William Black
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Default Skybus Airlines and food


"me" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 25, 3:18 pm, "William Black"
wrote:
"me" wrote in message

ps.com...
On May 25, 1:56 pm, "William Black"
wrote:
"me" wrote in message


roups.com...


On May 25, 1:10 pm, "William Black"
wrote:
The cruise ships use various versions of luggage searching.
They
have some capacity to claim an obligation since there are various
customs laws with which they deal. I'm sure the effort is no where
near 100% successful, but I suspect neither will the airlines.


You're telling me that cruise ships search hand luggage?


I think its a bit more of a case of "searching" shopping
bags.


Or even that they restrict their customers buying booze?


Each cruise line handles it a bit different, but they do
pay attention. Several of the islands down that way have
significant rum sales of which there can be a limit to what
can be imported back to the states.


So?

It is not the duty of a cruise line to enforce customs regulations.
Neither
do they have the power to do so.


However, there are federal "seziure" laws which state that the
feds can seize the whole "boat" if certain laws are violated by
any of the passengers.


And how many cruise ships have been siezed in, say, the past decade
because the odd passanger had a bottle of booze in their cabin...

[snip]
I also doubt that throwing someone out who has brought thier own
popcorn
is legal, certainly it wouldn't be legal in the UK.


As you might understand, commerce laws can vary widely by country
and by state. A theater is private property and can make a wide
variety of rules within certain bounds.


And once they've sold you a ticket they've entered into a contract.


Yes, with rules, that mostly favor them. I sure it includes the
ability
to eject people not choosing to follow them.

Again, I imagine the law in the UK is different to that is at least ten of
the individual states of the USA.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.




  #19  
Old May 26th, 2007, 06:11 AM posted to rec.travel.air
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Default Skybus Airlines and food

On May 25, 11:10 am, "William Black"
wrote:
"me" wrote in message

oups.com...

Cruise ships will prevent you from bringing (well drinking really)
your own alchohol supplies. Theaters typically prevent you from
bringing your own popcorn.


How?

I mean, how do they stop you having a bottle of booze in their cabin on a
ship and how do you stop someone walking into your movie theatre with a
shopping bag with some popcorn in it?

--
William Black


The shops in port will not just not give you the bottle of booze, but
rather deliver them to the ship for you and then the ship holds them
until at the last day of the cruise. The cruise ship will not even let
buy bottles of booze in their shops to drink on board. Those too are
stored until you leave. I'v been told that they have move control how
much you drink by serving it to by glass. This is suppose to cut down
on the number of drunken passengers they have. All bags you carry on
to the ship are sent through a x-ray machine like at an airport. After
x-raying a bag and seeing something that looks like a bottle of booze
they then would hand search it.

Michael

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Old May 26th, 2007, 04:23 PM posted to rec.travel.air
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Default Skybus Airlines and food



wrote:

On May 25, 11:10 am, "William Black"
wrote:

"me" wrote in message

groups.com...


Cruise ships will prevent you from bringing (well drinking really)
your own alchohol supplies. Theaters typically prevent you from
bringing your own popcorn.


How?

I mean, how do they stop you having a bottle of booze in their cabin on a
ship and how do you stop someone walking into your movie theatre with a
shopping bag with some popcorn in it?

--
William Black



The shops in port will not just not give you the bottle of booze, but
rather deliver them to the ship for you and then the ship holds them
until at the last day of the cruise. The cruise ship will not even let
buy bottles of booze in their shops to drink on board. Those too are
stored until you leave. I'v been told that they have move control how
much you drink by serving it to by glass. This is suppose to cut down
on the number of drunken passengers they have. All bags you carry on
to the ship are sent through a x-ray machine like at an airport. After
x-raying a bag and seeing something that looks like a bottle of booze
they then would hand search it.

Michael


Not really. They do make a bit of a pro forma attempt to get you to
turn in bottles for delivery but it is far from effective and certainly
nothing like an airport screening. The flood of returning passengers is
simply too much for effective screening in a reasonable time.

 




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