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On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 13:11:07 +1000, Dave Proctor
wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 11:52:08 +0930, "Freda" wrote: Then perhaps you are NOT the right person for the job???????????????? I have been reading this group for about two years now - rarely contribute, but have been reading for that long - and have NEVER thought that Cath was the appropriate person. It's a free world and you are entitled to your opinion Dave. Rarely contribute? Dave, you have been quite a contributor over the past 3 years. Even before you started replying using "Whilst undoubtedly under the effects of alcohol" which I note you have now stopped using. As you have not been around since the ng's inception, the first RFD was made on 12/Sept/1995 by Bill Rogers, then you are not familiar with what happened to this newsgroup in the past and the reasons why this newsgroup lost so many excellent contributors. If you want to change the wording of the Charter/FAQ, then you are welcome to go through the Usenet protocol to do enable a vote to be taken. Don't forget, some people have to pay to receive Usenet! Usenet is *not* the internet. If I had to pay additional charges to receive Usenet, you bet I'd be a pretty peeved off person if I was having to download advertising! Earlier this year, there was a query about how I became Keeper of the Charter/FAQ, which I answered publicly on the newsgroup. I have checked that thread and do not find any objections from you. I can recall another instance earlier this year when you had every opportunity to voice your opinions against me but you did not bother to do so. You do not realise just the diversity of the email I receive from people who lurk on this newsgrup. In most cases, I can only guide them to either watchng the threads, posting to the ng, finding an archived thread that may be of interest to them or sometimes, I post a request on their behalf. I have been [pleasantly] surprised at the number of 'lurker's of this group. I would NOT hestitate to do what we did in the above case if a similar posting appeared again. Frankly I don't give a dam what you think of me, publicly or privately. I doubt if you would likely find, in your eyes, anyone would be appropriate. Try and be a little less pedantic and be lighter in your assessing. Anyway, this is not a moderated group. Sure, she can forward complaints to ISP's, but considering the level of disagreement that this thread has generated, it is clear there is no consensus as to where the line should be drawn, and any such complaints will be dismissed. Dave The first RFD posted on 12 Sept 1995 clearly stated: "All advertising is inappropriate and should be directed to the group rec.travel.marketplace." which is still in force to this day. Again, if you wish to have the wording changed, then you are welcome to go for it. Usually, one or two adverts get overlooked however when someone continues or there is a blantant disregard for Usenet ie: posted/spammed to several ng's, then it is a different matter. Believe me, ISP's *do* take Usenet abuse whether it be a posting on the newsgroup or an email to me, very seriously. Many have specific reference to Usenet in their TOS. Australia does have an Internet Code [though off hand, I cannot remember the actual name of it but sure you are aware of it]. Cath |
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